Hezbollah slaughters children in northern Israel

[promethean75]

Spare me all the typing and read schopenhauer and nietzsche. They'll sort u out, guv.

[Impenitent]

just thinking here... Iran is going to strike Israel because Israel has eliminated terrorist leaders in Beirut and Tehran... Iran will have to do more than send their drones again, but when they do, Israel will respond... Iran's oil is going to burn

watch the price of oil go through the roof

-Imp

[Gary Childress]

Spare me all the typing and read schopenhauer and nietzsche. They'll sort u out, guv.

I've read Schopenhauer and Nietzsche and they didn't answer my questions satisfactorily either.

[promethean75]

By that do u mean they didn't appear to answer your questions, or u just didn't like their answers becuz they weren't warm and fuzzy?

[Gary Childress]

By that do u mean they didn't appear to answer your questions, or u just didn't like their answers becuz they weren't warm and fuzzy?

The question I'm asking is why are things like they are and not better. I'm not aware that either Nietzsche now Schopenhauer offered an answer for that question outside of stating that life is Will to Power or that the world is Will (respectively). It's a question outside of all answers about how the world does work and why. An answerable question but, in my opinion, one that has a sensibleness to it.

[promethean75]

"The question I'm asking is why are things like they are and not better."

'Better' is a relative state in a non-teleological system. Things can always get better.

In a teleological system there is an end state after which no better state can be reached. But i can't imagine such a thing so let's forget about that and work with what we got, with the way things appear, anyway (non-teleological).

In our case there is a kind of concealed paradox goin on here. First, how can someone, or people in general, not want to make things better? Think about it. Isn't everything anyone ever does an effort to reach a state that they think is better? Even the mass murderer has his reasons, believes that he's making things better, if only for himself. Remember your homeboy plato when he said all men act toward the good but may be ignorant or whatever? That's what i mean.

Second, we can only ever predict if a change will make circumstances better, and we are always naturally cautious about making major changes (a principle of conservatism). So, when u indict the world, its people and its leaders on not wanting to make things better, u have a situation where everyone means well (even the murderer), is afraid to try new things, and is often at odds with each other (becuz morals are relative). That being the case, u could no sooner blame the evil capitalist for dumping chemicals in the river than u could blame anyone for not risking trying something new. In the end, the reason why things aren't better is... well, becuz they aren't, and nobody is to blame. Well i mean people are to blame in the sense of being causal agents, but not in the sense of being unwanting of what is and would be better. See the dilemma I'm talking about?

[Alexis Jacobi]

But why are chimpanzees and bonobos and we humans like this to begin with? What is wrong with us? And why is it wrong with us? Why can't we do anything right in this world. Why can't we adequately solve our differences? Why do we get in these relentless spirals that descend us into war and strife? And more importantly, how do we get out of them?

This, THIS, is why I developed The 11-Week Email Course, Gary!

There is a way out! It costs $4,999.00 and it is worth every damn penny!

Do you want out!?!

[promethean75]

"I'm not aware that either Nietzsche now Schopenhauer offered an answer for that question"

Lol @ the irony here, man. If two muhfuckas ever wrote about why things aren't better, it was Fritz and Arty.

But really N wrote quite a bit about what he thought greatness, excellence, and so forth (forms of betterness) were and how they could be reached. Might not agree with his ideas, but he did indeed present a very thorough answer to that question.

I don't recall reading anything of schopenhauer's politics, economic theory, etc. May have dropped an aphorism once in a while but didn't write extensively on either subject. He was into metaphysics and shit.

[promethean75]

How u makes things better is u gather a bunch of individual egos that have similar interests together and get them to apply force to the one's that don't have those interests in common with them.

It was not for nuthin when Marx said the history of the world is the history of class struggle. Substitute egos for class here and it amounts to the same thing. The development and improvement of society is a multufarious process of wills tryna control things. Progress happens when there is a union of egos.

Or the exception: you're a single person who's as bad as Thanatos and u don't need to be in a union to affect change.

[Gary Childress]

But why are chimpanzees and bonobos and we humans like this to begin with? What is wrong with us? And why is it wrong with us? Why can't we do anything right in this world. Why can't we adequately solve our differences? Why do we get in these relentless spirals that descend us into war and strife? And more importantly, how do we get out of them?

This, THIS, is why I developed The 11-Week Email Course, Gary!

There is a way out! It costs $4,999.00 and it is worth every damn penny!

Do you want out!?!

Please tell your admissions department to take me off their mailing list. Thank you in advance.

[Gary Childress]

Lol @ the irony here, man. If two muhfuckas ever wrote about why things aren't better, it was Fritz and Arty.

The question I'm asking cannot be answered by any human being. It's a question that God cannot even answer. It would be like asking God why he is instead of not at all.

[promethean75]

Why are u aksing unanswerable questions then, gary. Tryna make us all look like fools are ya?

[Alexis Jacobi]

We don’t work with “mailing lists” — we have psycho-spiritual targets and we pursue them like wolverines until, finally, they see the error of their ways and the deep sense of ours.

They cough up the wampum and, applying the daily lessons, rise to the occasion, becoming streamlined, shrewd players on the grand monopoly-board of Existence.

It is interesting to note the degree to which your resistance to The World as well as to “God” embodies and expresses the non-tragic stance to Life. It’s odd: you are committed to your self-defeating stance which, at least as I see it, so disempowers you.

There is a solution, Gary. But if you don’t pay for it (on one level or another) you won’t value it, and then you won’t apply it.

The question I'm asking cannot be answered by any human being. It's a question that God cannot even answer. It would be like asking God why he is instead of not at all.

Look, just working within the mythological or metaphysical structure in The Story you suggest that Lucifer has the answer. In that sense Nietzsche was indeed onto something when he proposed a realistic view of reality through a lens of realness.

I am not a non-believer in God and Angelic Being mind you. I believe in Divine Agency. But within a rough-and-tumble (and unalterable) violent and cruel world driven by power-dynamics.

All this is expounded, with grace and panache, in Chapters 21-22 in Section Two of The Course.