Islam is Judaism for non-Jews ("Gentiles")

[godelian]

What makes Muhammed an obvious prophet of divine inspiration?

Try to do it by yourself and see how far you get.

I find it astounding that you think a divine being (God) would allow enslavement and rape of captured enemy females.

You can see that Moses instructed his officers as following:

Numbers 31: Moses was angry that the soldiers had left all women alive, saying: "They were the ones who followed Balaam's advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to Yahweh in the Peor incident, so a plague struck Yahweh's people. Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."

In this case, Moses told them to only keep the virgins for themselves. Muhammed never had to tell his soldiers to get rid of the non-virgins because they had never been through a Peor incident. The real biological nature of war is the mating season. So, the prize of war is gold and female captives. Of course, anybody who lives in Christian Lalaland does not understand that and prefers to believe in some delulu illusions.

Have you ever witnessed a 'miracle' - one doesn't count - I'm talking shed loads of them. Every been communicated to from the aether?

I don't know. I wouldn't discuss that publicly anyway.

[attofishpi]

What makes Muhammed an obvious prophet of divine inspiration?

Try to do it by yourself and see how far you get.

A lot easier in those days.

I find it astounding that you think a divine being (God) would allow enslavement and rape of captured enemy females.

You can see that Moses instructed his officers as following:

Numbers 31: Moses was angry that the soldiers had left all women alive, saying: "They were the ones who followed Balaam's advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to Yahweh in the Peor incident, so a plague struck Yahweh's people. Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."

In this case, Moses told them to only keep the virgins for themselves. Muhammed never had to tell his soldiers to get rid of the non-virgins because they had never been through a Peor incident. The real biological nature of war is the mating season. So, the prize of war is gold and female captives. Of course, anybody who lives in Christian Lalaland does not understand that and prefers to believe in some delulu illusions.

No what Christ taught is clearly part of the TEST_AMEN_T, we are tested upon what our own personal ethics are, hence part of the reasoning for Faith v Doubt.

Some Christians are in this 'lalaland' but certainly the ones that under_stand Christ R NOT.

Have you ever witnessed a 'miracle' - one doesn't count - I'm talking shed loads of them. Every been communicated to from the aether?

I don't know. I wouldn't discuss that publicly anyway.

Y not?

[godelian]

A lot easier in those days.

With the internet available? It should be a lot easier now.

No what Christ taught is clearly part of the TEST_AMEN_T, we are tested upon what our own personal ethics are, hence part of the reasoning for Faith v Doubt.

Christ did not have the authority to overrule Moses or Mosaic law. He actually never did. On the contrary, Christ was an exemplary keeper of Mosaic law. Furthermore, you cannot compare Christ and Moses. While Moses was the sovereign leader of his nation, Christ was under Roman control and could not make sovereign decisions. Moses could and did fight wars. Christ could not and did not.

Hence, you can never use anything Christ has said to overrule Moses or Mosaic law.

Y not?

There is nothing objective about transcendental or spiritual experiences. There is no shared understanding about these things. There is not even any effective language or vocabulary to describe what you feel when connecting with deeper spirituality while praying.

[attofishpi]

A lot easier in those days.

With the internet available? It should be a lot easier now.

People are extremely sceptical about such things, more educated indeed.

IT WOULD TAKE MANY MIRACLES.

No what Christ taught is clearly part of the TEST_AMEN_T, we are tested upon what our own personal ethics are, hence part of the reasoning for Faith v Doubt.

Christ did not have the authority to overrule Moses or Mosaic law. He actually never did. On the contrary, Christ was an exemplary keeper of Mosaic law.

ALL rubbish. Christ is God incarnate and totally overruled such disgusting ideology from the Judaic texts.

Furthermore, you cannot compare Christ and Moses.

Agreed. Christ is God incarnate. What Moses instructed per your earlier scripture is not from God and by far beneath Christ.

Y not?

There is nothing objective about transcendental or spiritual experiences. There is no shared understanding about these things. There is not even any effective language or vocabulary to describe what you feel when connecting with deeper spirituality while praying.

Really? Surely as one that understands logic systems you could comprehend that if there is an intelligence operating as the construct to our SHARED reality that IT could embed evidence within REAL_IT_Y?

Muslims prey
Christians pray

BARK up the tree of KNOW_LEDGE SAP LEAVE..?

A man's best friend DOG protects man. Reversed GOD. BARK protects the tree. A SAP continues to feed the tree of KNOW_LEDGE. LEAVES leave the tree.

IT's ALL in the English LAN_GAUGE God's common protocol for comms.

[godelian]

People are extremely sceptical about such things, more educated indeed.

People have always been skeptical about prophets. That is also nothing new.

ALL rubbish. Christ is God incarnate and totally overruled such disgusting ideology from the Judaic texts.
What Moses instructed per your earlier scripture is not from God and by far beneath Christ.

What Moses said, is law. What Christ said, is mere recommendation, guidance and commentary on the law.
Furthermore, in my opinion, it is not because Christ was appointed by God to be his prophet, that Christ would be God himself.
If you believe that Mosaic law is "disgusting ideology", then why are you following someone who religiously kept Mosaic law?
Christ acknowledged to be bound by Mosaic law. Christ kept the law and encouraged his followers to do the same.
Since you are clearly not bound by Mosaic law, you are not a follower of Christ.
You are in fact a follower of Paul, the hated heresiarch, the notorious apostate from the law.

[attofishpi]

People are extremely sceptical about such things, more educated indeed.

People have always been skeptical about prophets. That is also nothing new.

ALL rubbish. Christ is God incarnate and totally overruled such disgusting ideology from the Judaic texts.
What Moses instructed per your earlier scripture is not from God and by far beneath Christ.

What Moses said, is law. What Christ said, is mere recommendation, guidance and commentary on the law.
Furthermore, in my opinion, it is not because Christ was appointed by God to be his prophet, that Christ would be God himself.
If you believe that Mosaic law is "disgusting ideology", then why are you following someone who religiously kept Mosaic law?
Christ acknowledged to be bound by Mosaic law. Christ kept the law and encouraged his followers to do the same.
Since you are clearly not bound by Mosaic law, you are not a follower of Christ.
You are in fact a follower of Paul, the hated heresiarch, the notorious apostate from the law.

You are missing my entire point. That scripture is not something I am required to consider regarding God in a strict fund_a_mental way..
That the TEST appears to be whether U believe GOD is of LOVE as per Christ - that went to his death insisting upon it or whether U believe in all the other crap - that a DIVINE GOD would want man to rape and enslave conquered opponent females..etc..etc..etc..

U R rather disgusting to believe such a divine being would insist on such things..that a divine being NEEDS to be worshipped and for its followers and to kill those that don't.

Evidence is in the English LAN_GAUGE. I don't buy_bull (bible). Second hand sources are so passé. When the ACTUAL source GOD informs U of truth - every_thing else is tantamount to bullshit.

[godelian]

a DIVINE GOD would want man to rape and enslave conquered opponent females..etc..etc..etc..

You use a different definition for the term "rape" than I do.

U R rather disgusting to believe such a divine being would insist on such things..

You can be critical of Moses but that is not compatible with claiming that you would be a follower of Christ.
Christ never criticized Moses.

Furthermore, I reject your delulu views on the laws of war.

I don't buy_bull (bible). Second hand sources are so passé.

By repudiating the Bible, you have created your own religion, which is not an objective, shared understanding between a particular demographic of believers. It may be somewhat vaguely connected to Christianity, but that is about it, really.

So, how shall we call your new religion?
Maybe, something like "separate one-man show"?

[attofishpi]

a DIVINE GOD would want man to rape and enslave conquered opponent females..etc..etc..etc..

You use a different definition for the term "rape" than I do.

U R rather disgusting to believe such a divine being would insist on such things..

You can be critical of Moses but that is not compatible with claiming that you would be a follower of Christ.
Christ never criticized Moses.

Furthermore, I reject your delulu views on the laws of war.

I don't buy_bull (bible). Second hand sources are so passé.

By repudiating the Bible, you have created your own religion, which is not an objective, shared understanding between a particular demographic of believers. It may be somewhat vaguely connected to Christianity, but that is about it, really.

So, how shall we call your new religion?
Maybe, something like "separate one-man show"?

Where it comes to WISDOM from Christ my time is wasted upon this forum.

But hey, muzzle em, keep thinking God wants you to bow down submissively and worship him AND kill those that don't

BTW: God indicated to me just last week that it dislikes being referred to as "ALLAH"

[Age]

a DIVINE GOD would want man to rape and enslave conquered opponent females..etc..etc..etc..

You use a different definition for the term "rape" than I do.

U R rather disgusting to believe such a divine being would insist on such things..

You can be critical of Moses but that is not compatible with claiming that you would be a follower of Christ.
Christ never criticized Moses.

Furthermore, I reject your delulu views on the laws of war.

I don't buy_bull (bible). Second hand sources are so passé.

By repudiating the Bible, you have created your own religion, which is not an objective, shared understanding between a particular demographic of believers. It may be somewhat vaguely connected to Christianity, but that is about it, really.

So, how shall we call your new religion?
Maybe, something like "separate one-man show"?

Where it comes to WISDOM from Christ my time is wasted upon this forum.

But hey, muzzle em, keep thinking God wants you to bow down submissively and worship him AND kill those that don't

BTW: God indicated to me just last week that it dislikes being referred to as "ALLAH"

LOL Do you think that would be a human being who would believe that this is what actually happened and occurred "attofishpi"?

1. How did God, supposedly, 'indicate' this, to you, exactly?

2. Who and/or what is God, which was able to 'indicate' to you what you claim here?

3. Did God 'indicate' why, exactly, It would, supposedly, dislike being referred to as 'Allah'?

[Age]

How does ISLAM portray itself to be of an Abrahamic origin when Muhammed clearly is contrary to pretty much every commandment that Moses received @ Mt SIN_AI and contrary to the teachings of Christ?

Islam is Abrahamic because large fragments of its law are bi-interpretable with Mosaic law.

Muhammad had to get his ideas from somewhere in attempt to portray himself as a 'prophet'.

Exactly like every one of you human beings. Including your favourite "attofishpi", that is; the human being named by some with the label "jesus christ".

Every one of you human beings have had to get your ideas from somewhere, obviously, in an attempt to portray "yourselves" as a 'prophet', or not.

In what sense did Moses and Muhammad hold contrary views?

Ah, rape and slaughtering Jews and basically anyone that doesn't believe him to be a prophet

Could your interpretation here be Wrong in absolutely any way "attofishpi"?

That is not the reason why Jews do not accept Muhammad as their prophet. The reason is because Muhammad was not a Jew. I am myself not a Jew. So, I am not going to reject a prophet just because he isn't a Jew.

Jews wouldn't accept anyone including Jesus the Christ.

But, "jesus the christ" or just "jesus christ" was said to be a "jew", obviously. So, why would "jews", supposedly, not accept one of "their own"?

Concerning Christ, unlike Moses and Muhammad, he was not the leader of his society, and therefore never had to fight any wars. Christ was under Roman control. He wasn't a sovereign leader. Therefore, you cannot compare him to Moses or Muhammad.

Funny thing is, I have clear knowledge of God's existence,

LOL Yet you, still to this day, do not know who nor what God is, exactly.

And, just claiming to have 'clear knowledge' of God's existence, does not mean that you actually do. As, obviously, you could be completely and utterly deluded. And, not providing any actual proof of who and/or what God is, exactly, along with proof of that 'Thing's' existence, further shows and reveals that actually you do not have actual 'clear knowledge' of God's existence.

no longer mere belief and this must be courtesy of original faith in Christ.

So, is the only way to have so-called 'clear knowledge' of God's existence, and not just 'a belief' in God's existence, is by just having 'original faith', (whatever that actually means), in just a human being with the name and label "christ", right?

If yes, then are you able to, and will you, elaborate on this and explain how 'this' actually works?

As the man stated to know God is through me.

So, to you if any "man" states, 'To know God is through me', then is that all that is needed?

God\sage have insisted (to me) that Christ DID as portrayed in the NT die upon crucifix and resurrect.

Okay. But;

1. Why do you differentiate God from 'sage' at other times, but now you put 'the two' 'as one''?

2. If the human being called "jesus christ" is 'resurrected', then where, exactly, is 'it' 'now'?

From what I have witnessed since 1997 of the power this God has over all reality - nothing is impossible.

So, "attofishpi" 'now' admits and claims that it is possible that what it has been saying and claiming here is False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and/or Incorrect.

Which, absolutely every one here agrees with you "attofishpi".

So I don't really care too much about scripture - I get my knowledge now DIRECT from the source.

Which is 'a source' that you, still, do not yet even know who nor what 'It' is, exactly.

Which, by the way, actually could counter, and even refute, what you are claiming here, absolutely.

In fact Christ has had a couple of interactions with me from the aether over the past month.

So, what is the so-called 'aether', exactly?

And, what happened and occurred, exactly, in the, supposed, claimed 'interaction' between the one known here as "attofishpi" and the one here known as "christ"? And, how did the, supposed and alleged, 'interaction' happen and occur, exactly?

He's quite lovely actually...and wow, heaven is awesome - it's a 'mode' not a place.

What is the difference between a 'mode' and a 'place'?

And, where, exactly, is 'heaven'?

Have you had any DIVINE interaction, thus leaving you with no doubt that God exists?

Could your so-called 'divine interaction/s' just be a figment of 'your imagination' "attofishpi"? Or, is this not a possibility?

[Age]

Muhammad had to get his ideas from somewhere in attempt to portray himself as a 'prophet'.

To me, it is obvious that he was a prophet.

Ah, rape and slaughtering Jews and basically anyone that doesn't believe him to be a prophet

He fought with some Jews. They lost. It just shows that he was better than them at the game in which they chose to compete.
Concerning rape, the early Muslims never raped anybody. They confiscated females from the losing adversary, but that was perfectly conform with the laws of war.

Have you had any DIVINE interaction, thus leaving you with no doubt that God exists?

I don't know what counts as divine interaction. So, that's difficult to say.

Instead of just telling 'us' what you do not know, why did not just "attofishpi", 'What counts as 'divine interaction', exactly?'

[Age]

Muhammad had to get his ideas from somewhere in attempt to portray himself as a 'prophet'.

To me, it is obvious that he was a prophet.

What makes Muhammed an obvious prophet of divine inspiration?

Ah, rape and slaughtering Jews and basically anyone that doesn't believe him to be a prophet

He fought with some Jews. They lost. It just shows that he was better than them at the game in which they chose to compete.
Concerning rape, the early Muslims never raped anybody. They confiscated females from the losing adversary, but that was perfectly conform with the laws of war.

You cannot possibly know that early Muslims never raped anybody.

I find it astounding that you think a divine being (God) would allow enslavement and rape of captured enemy females.

Do you find it astounding that you think a divine being (God) would allow what you adult human beings do to "yourselves", children, and your one and only home?

Surely it makes more sense that such instructions are the machinations of a warlord that wants more children to be born for his warrior legacy?

And, what, supposedly, 'makes sense', to one, can just be because of their pre-existing beliefs and presumptions, but which do not necessarily 'make sense', at all, to others.

Have you had any DIVINE interaction, thus leaving you with no doubt that God exists?

I don't know what counts as divine interaction. So, that's difficult to say.

Have you ever witnessed a 'miracle' - one doesn't count - I'm talking shed loads of them. Every been communicated to from the aether?

1. How many so-called 'miracles' have you had/experienced?

2. If any, then what happened and occurred, exactly?

3. What does, 'been communicated from the aether', even actually mean, exactly?

[Age]

What makes Muhammed an obvious prophet of divine inspiration?

Try to do it by yourself and see how far you get.

A lot easier in those days.

I find it astounding that you think a divine being (God) would allow enslavement and rape of captured enemy females.

You can see that Moses instructed his officers as following:

Numbers 31: Moses was angry that the soldiers had left all women alive, saying: "They were the ones who followed Balaam's advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to Yahweh in the Peor incident, so a plague struck Yahweh's people. Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."

In this case, Moses told them to only keep the virgins for themselves. Muhammed never had to tell his soldiers to get rid of the non-virgins because they had never been through a Peor incident. The real biological nature of war is the mating season. So, the prize of war is gold and female captives. Of course, anybody who lives in Christian Lalaland does not understand that and prefers to believe in some delulu illusions.

No what Christ taught is clearly part of the TEST_AMEN_T, we are tested upon what our own personal ethics are, hence part of the reasoning for Faith v Doubt.

What does 'testament' mean, exactly? when you write it the way that you do here?

Some Christians are in this 'lalaland' but certainly the ones that under_stand Christ R NOT.

What does, 'under_stand Christ', mean, exactly?

Have you ever witnessed a 'miracle' - one doesn't count - I'm talking shed loads of them. Every been communicated to from the aether?

I don't know. I wouldn't discuss that publicly anyway.

Y not?

[Age]

A lot easier in those days.

With the internet available? It should be a lot easier now.

People are extremely sceptical about such things, more educated indeed.

IT WOULD TAKE MANY MIRACLES.

No what Christ taught is clearly part of the TEST_AMEN_T, we are tested upon what our own personal ethics are, hence part of the reasoning for Faith v Doubt.

Christ did not have the authority to overrule Moses or Mosaic law. He actually never did. On the contrary, Christ was an exemplary keeper of Mosaic law.

ALL rubbish. Christ is God incarnate and totally overruled such disgusting ideology from the Judaic texts.

Furthermore, you cannot compare Christ and Moses.

Agreed. Christ is God incarnate. What Moses instructed per your earlier scripture is not from God and by far beneath Christ.

Y not?

There is nothing objective about transcendental or spiritual experiences. There is no shared understanding about these things. There is not even any effective language or vocabulary to describe what you feel when connecting with deeper spirituality while praying.

Really? Surely as one that understands logic systems you could comprehend that if there is an intelligence operating as the construct to our SHARED reality that IT could embed evidence within REAL_IT_Y?

Muslims prey
Christians pray

BARK up the tree of KNOW_LEDGE SAP LEAVE..?

A man's best friend DOG protects man. Reversed GOD.

So, this would then, exactly, mean that God does not protect "man".

BARK protects the tree.

Protects it, supposedly, from 'what', exactly?

And, could 'protecting', if it actually does this, just be iis least purpose?

A SAP continues to feed the tree of KNOW_LEDGE. LEAVES leave the tree.

IT's ALL in the English LAN_GAUGE God's common protocol for comms.

And, absolutely no one, besides you, even knows what you are on about here with these 'absolutely ridiculous interpretations of yours', only.

Are you even aware of just how Truly foolish and ridiculous these personal interpretations of yours appear?

Although, at the very deepest level, there is truth in what you are saying and claiming here, you are so far from that level that what you are doing here is just making worse what you are trying so hard to achieve here.

[Age]

People are extremely sceptical about such things, more educated indeed.

People have always been skeptical about prophets. That is also nothing new.

ALL rubbish. Christ is God incarnate and totally overruled such disgusting ideology from the Judaic texts.
What Moses instructed per your earlier scripture is not from God and by far beneath Christ.

What Moses said, is law. What Christ said, is mere recommendation, guidance and commentary on the law.
Furthermore, in my opinion, it is not because Christ was appointed by God to be his prophet, that Christ would be God himself.
If you believe that Mosaic law is "disgusting ideology", then why are you following someone who religiously kept Mosaic law?
Christ acknowledged to be bound by Mosaic law. Christ kept the law and encouraged his followers to do the same.
Since you are clearly not bound by Mosaic law, you are not a follower of Christ.
You are in fact a follower of Paul, the hated heresiarch, the notorious apostate from the law.

You are missing my entire point. That scripture is not something I am required to consider regarding God in a strict fund_a_mental way..
That the TEST appears to be whether U believe GOD is of LOVE as per Christ - that went to his death insisting upon it or whether U believe in all the other crap - that a DIVINE GOD would want man to rape and enslave conquered opponent females..etc..etc..etc..

U R rather disgusting to believe such a divine being would insist on such things..that a divine being NEEDS to be worshipped and for its followers and to kill those that don't.

Evidence is in the English LAN_GAUGE. I don't buy_bull (bible).

Why do you show/explain what some of your own personal interpretations mean, but others you do not. For example, right here you showed and explained what 'buy_bull' means, to you alone, but you never showed nor explained what 'lan_guage' means, to you alone. Why do you do this?

Second hand sources are so passé. When the ACTUAL source GOD informs U of truth - every_thing else is tantamount to bullshit.

So, if God, the 'actual source', is, supposedly, informing you of things, then why are you so, so far behind in explaining, showing, and/or informing 'that' to others?

And, what does not just the 'actual source' just inform others?