Abortion is Not Permissible, Period!

[henry quirk]

Reasons...

...given by women for why they off'd their kids.

some random male American religious nut doesn't think you should terminate a pregnancy

I don't give a sparrow's fart what you do. You all wanna murder your kids? Go ahead. There's nuthin' I can do about it 'cept point out it is murder.

[Harbal]

I don't give a sparrow's fart what you do. You all wanna murder your kids? Go ahead. There's nuthin' I can do about it 'cept point out it is murder.

The law says it isn't, but henry quirk says it is, therefore it must somehow be so. Henry quirk has spoken.

[henry quirk]

Henry quirk has spoken.

I could be wrong. If I am, and man is just meat, then abortion is no more a wrong than stepping on a cockroach.

[accelafine]

Reasons...

...given by women for why they off'd their kids.

some random male American religious nut doesn't think you should terminate a pregnancy

I don't give a sparrow's fart what you do. You all wanna murder your kids? Go ahead. There's nuthin' I can do about it 'cept point out it is murder.

Well fuck off then. It's none of your fucking business.

[FlashDangerpants]

The question is not what I think, but what is true. But I'm sure you realize that

Perhaps you haven't been paying attention. I thought I had made it abundantly clear that whatever the truth is, the perceptions it presents us can be interpreted in different ways. The question is not what is true, it very much is what you think. What on Earth makes you think that a centuries old book is a better source for how the world and we came to be than contemporary science? What sort of person can believe that the sin deserving of the most cruel punishment imaginable, is not believing that same book? Who in their right mind would think a justice system based on human sacrifice is a good idea? I think the clue is in the question.

I've often wondered about the aborted fetus. Presumably God would not torture this unbaptized entity for all eternity. So, any aborted fetus has zero chance of being tortured for all time. If it is born, well, now this possibility is on the table. I can't quite see how guaranteeing the eternal bliss of an entity is unloving, while also protecting it from eternal torture. I'm still amazed at people's talent at justifying the games and behavior of their deity, but I suppose people do that with earthly leaders so I shouldn't be surprised.

What about all the fertilized ovums that didn't even last long enough to get aborted and just get flushed naturally as late periods? Those outnumber abortions by a huge margin but apparently they are all dead babies now.

[henry quirk]

Well fuck off then. It's none of your fucking business.

I'll speak my mind where I like, when I like, on whatever subject I like.

Mebbe, if you ladies can't bear criticism, you ought not take to the public sphere, crowing about how you rubbed out your kids.

It's nuthin' to be proud about.

[Harbal]

Henry quirk has spoken.

I could be wrong.

You are neither right nor wrong, you merely have a moral opinion.

If I am, and man is just meat, then abortion is no more a wrong than stepping on a cockroach.

You might be in the wrong place, henry, adopting such a simplistic view of life is the alternative to philosophy, not the practicing of it.

[henry quirk]

You might be in the wrong place, henry, adopting such a simplistic view of life is the alternative to philosophy, not the practicing of it.

This from the guy whose philosophy is...

I don't know why I care, I just know that I do care

[seeds]

The question is not what I think, but what is true. But I'm sure you realize that

Perhaps you haven't been paying attention. I thought I had made it abundantly clear that whatever the truth is, the perceptions it presents us can be interpreted in different ways. The question is not what is true, it very much is what you think. What on Earth makes you think that a centuries old book is a better source for how the world and we came to be than contemporary science? What sort of person can believe that the sin deserving of the most cruel punishment imaginable, is not believing that same book? Who in their right mind would think a justice system based on human sacrifice is a good idea? I think the clue is in the question.

I've often wondered about the aborted fetus. Presumably God would not torture this unbaptized entity for all eternity. So, any aborted fetus has zero chance of being tortured for all time.

Not so fast there.

As I mentioned in a prior post...

IC has actually argued with me that it is plausible that humans who died as infants and toddlers may indeed be sent to Hell because God omnisciently "knew" they would have done something worthy of Hell had they lived into adulthood on earth.

Now, to be fair, he didn't mention anything about aborted fetuses, however if certain people (I'm guessing IC) believe that personhood is established at conception, then, logically, the same harsh judgment would apply to aborted souls.

It's all too ridiculous!!!
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[Iwannaplato]

What about all the fertilized ovums that didn't even last long enough to get aborted and just get flushed naturally as late periods? Those outnumber abortions by a huge margin but apparently they are all dead babies now.

Well, I sure hope neither the mother not the ovums get sent to Hell. I'd have to have a long talk with the deity involved in that decision.

[Harbal]

You might be in the wrong place, henry, adopting such a simplistic view of life is the alternative to philosophy, not the practicing of it.

This from the guy whose philosophy is...

I don't know why I care, I just know that I do care

So you think philosophy is about pretending to know what you don't, or arbitrarily picking an option just to avoid having to admit that you don't know something?

[henry quirk]

[Harbal]

Well done, henry.

[Iwannaplato]

Not so fast there.

As I mentioned in a prior post...

IC has actually argued with me that it is plausible that humans who died as infants and toddlers may indeed be sent to Hell because God omnisciently "knew" they would have done something worthy of Hell had they lived into adulthood on earth.

Then, not so fast. Why all the spillt tears over the fetuses then?
It's a victimless crime in the sense that they were going to suffer eternal hell. And now they will, suffer eternal hell.

And what the heck is God doing sending evil fetuses into the wombs of women?

Now, to be fair, he didn't mention anything about aborted fetuses, however if certain people (I'm guessing IC) believe that personhood is established at conception, then, logically, the same harsh judgment would apply to aborted souls.

People here in this life, find ways to justify the evil of despots. I suppose it's only natural they find ways to justify their monstrous versions of deities also. Apologists for evil on the spiritual plane.

[henry quirk]

You misunderstood what was for.

Not surprising.

Anyway...