Teach Your Children Well

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Re: Teach Your Children Well

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bahman wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 11:17 pm
Walker wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 4:21 am
bahman wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 8:44 pm We should improve their sense of judgment rather than only tell them what is right or wrong. Good or evil is situational!
Well, telling a small kid what is right and wrong, when they obviously don't display knowing the distinction, for whatever reason, forms the basis for their judgements in later life, after they start to question this or that.

"What you did is bad. When you do bad things, you make Mommy cry."
(Both turn to look at Mommy. Yep, Mommy is crying, the kid kinda knows it's a bit of foolery, but Mommy is a good actress and it has an effect. Later on, this expands into a more adult dialogue with Mommy and Daddy asking and answering situational questions, for the child to hear the various answers and avenues of thought, all directed towards impartial persuasion that encourages the child's own judgement. The two approaches communicate via the child's capacity to absorb what's important in each of the interactions.)
Well, I think it is important to explain to the children the consequences of their decisions and actions rather than saying what is wrong or right.
That reminds me of the time I was walking into the market and saw a woman attempting to fit her child into the shopping cart seat. The child was resisting and the mother was explaining to the child that he was "too anal," whatever that was supposed to mean.

However, in the above example that you quoted, when Mommy cries the child is able to deduce that something is wrong, and that wrongness is a consequence of the child's actions, which may or may not have been based on a decision since the child often acts on impulse.

That emotional level of communication cuts through the adult intellectualization by speaking to the child's capacity for comprehension.
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Age wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 5:19 am
So, 'you' will have to either find 'someone else', or just provide 'the answer' that you think or believe is 'the right answer', and then inform 'us', readers, here what 'it' is, exactly, that you are wanting to 'get at' here. Otherwise, you are your complete lonesome here.
If the answer was a snake, by now it would have bitten you right on the nose.
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Walker wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 9:22 am
Age wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 5:19 am
So, 'you' will have to either find 'someone else', or just provide 'the answer' that you think or believe is 'the right answer', and then inform 'us', readers, here what 'it' is, exactly, that you are wanting to 'get at' here. Otherwise, you are your complete lonesome here.
If the answer was a snake, by now it would have bitten you right on the nose.
Okay, but yet you are still not able to tell 'us' here what 'the answer' is, exactly.
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Age wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 11:52 am
Walker wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 9:22 am
Age wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 5:19 am
So, 'you' will have to either find 'someone else', or just provide 'the answer' that you think or believe is 'the right answer', and then inform 'us', readers, here what 'it' is, exactly, that you are wanting to 'get at' here. Otherwise, you are your complete lonesome here.
If the answer was a snake, by now it would have bitten you right on the nose.
Okay, but yet you are still not able to tell 'us' here what 'the answer' is, exactly.
Oh, you know exactly what it is. It just hasn't registered.
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Walker wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 12:25 pm
Walker, with aeon, you're dealin' with a horse that can't even be led to water much less be made to drink.
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Walker wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 12:25 pm
Age wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 11:52 am
Walker wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 9:22 am
If the answer was a snake, by now it would have bitten you right on the nose.
Okay, but yet you are still not able to tell 'us' here what 'the answer' is, exactly.
Oh, you know exactly what it is. It just hasn't registered.
Okay.

If 'it' ever registers I will let you know. Until then you are on your lonesome, as obviously you are the only one here who, supposedly, knows 'the answer'.
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henry quirk wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 3:53 pm
Walker wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 12:25 pm
Walker, with aeon, you're dealin' with a horse that can't even be led to water much less be made to drink.
Do you "henry quirk" 'know' 'the answer' here?
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henry quirk wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 11:29 pm
Age wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 10:14 pmDo you "henry quirk" 'know' 'the answer' here?
I do.
Will 'you' provide 'us' with 'the answer'?
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henry quirk wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 1:08 am
Age wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 12:40 amWill 'you' provide 'us' with 'the answer'?
I won't.
So, once again, here 'we' have another clear example of another one who says and claims things are true, but when questioned and/or challenged over 'their claims' provides absolutely nothing at all.
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henry quirk wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 3:06 am
Age wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 2:44 am
You shoulda asked why won't you?
Why, supposedly, 'should' have I asked you, Why will you not?'
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henry quirk wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 12:32 pm
Age wrote: Wed Jul 10, 2024 3:53 am Why, supposedly, 'should' have I asked you, Why will you not?'
The ship done sailed, age.
So, once again, 'this' is all you have got.

you have absolutely nothing at all that could have backed up and supported you here.
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Age wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 10:10 pm If 'it' ever registers I will let you know. Until then you are on your lonesome, as obviously you are the only one here who, supposedly, knows 'the answer'.
The answer is as plain as day, for all to know, however the plainness must register from sense to apprehension in order to be known. Be plain as day, and there the answer is. Perhaps you are the lonesome dove of theory.
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henry quirk wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 3:53 pm
Walker wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 12:25 pm
Walker, with aeon, you're dealin' with a horse that can't even be led to water much less be made to drink.
The rhythms of the wet hooves muddying the waters with all that stamping, misdirection, and distractions from the question has become so predictable as to be tedious, so about all one can do is keep dangling the question like a carrot.
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Age wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 10:10 pm
Walker wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 12:25 pm
Age wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 11:52 am

Okay, but yet you are still not able to tell 'us' here what 'the answer' is, exactly.
Oh, you know exactly what it is. It just hasn't registered.
Okay.

If 'it' ever registers I will let you know. Until then you are on your lonesome, as obviously you are the only one here who, supposedly, knows 'the answer'.
The answer is so simple it's almost silly to say it.
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Walker wrote: Thu Jul 11, 2024 12:05 pmtedious
Yes, he is.
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