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MY MAIN AREAS OF CONCERN ARE:-

1. Islamic ideology.
2. Islamic invasion via any means.
3. LEFT wing politics ALLOWING this invasion.
4. Mainstream Media REFUSING to report on violence etc.. from these Islamist Muslims (I can only find reporting via other means)
5. Mainstream Media continually calling RIGHT wing politics as "FAR RIGHT"
6. " " ......continually reporting NEGATIVELY on anyone that leans to the RIGHT as "thugs" "racists" etc..

Indeed, watching closely what happened to Reform UK electoral bid and seeing how BBC and Channel 4 attempted to "stitch-up" Farage's campaign with the racism trope.. Y?

WHAT IS GOING ON??? PLEASE SOMEONE EXPLAIN...

Why would the likes of Starmer and outgoing Tories allow\accommodate my list 1-6 above?

Flannel Jesus wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 9:07 am But that discomfort makes me avoid engaging with UK politics, and so no, I'm not prepared to distinguish between which of your points are truths, half truths, or lies
Did you at least vote?
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the political machine continues to eat everything in its path...

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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:03 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 8:55 pm Nobody is able to describe this globalism thing in a way that makes use of one of these agendas that the thread title promises without also piling on conspiracy theories. That's not a problem I caused so you may as well quit trying to blame it on me.
A very broad statement. Too broad, as I said earlier.
Surely "globalism" is a very broad and nebulous concept. Why is it my fault that I reference it in broad terms?

The observation remains correct that if you find a way to explain what "globalism" is, and if you do so in terms that permit discussion of it having an agenda of its own or of it being the work of somebody who is using it to forward some other "agenda", you are, by definition attaching a conspiracy to it that would not attach if you were defining it merely as some broad historical trend that simply reflected late 20th century economics with long supply chains and maximised profitability via specialisation.

By choosing to handle the thing as an agenda driven process, you are making the choice that comes with the tinfoil hat, not having it thrust upon you.
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attofishpi wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 9:41 am Did you at least vote?
You want someone who can't tell what's true and false to vote?

I'm just kidding - half kidding, anyway. No I didn't vote, I'm not actually from this country I just live here. Don't think I'm allowed to vote.

Besides, I don't feel confident enough in my ability to make rational decisions about how to lead a country (in no small part because of how unconfident I feel in being able to sift through the lies of politicians and the media), so even if I could vote I would feel like a moron while doing it, no matter who I voted for.

If I had to vote I'd vote left - but I don't hate the right in England, like I hate the right in America. The american right is disgusting, the english right less so, imo.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 10:28 am
Alexis Jacobi wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:03 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 8:55 pm Nobody is able to describe this globalism thing in a way that makes use of one of these agendas that the thread title promises without also piling on conspiracy theories. That's not a problem I caused so you may as well quit trying to blame it on me.
A very broad statement. Too broad, as I said earlier.
Surely "globalism" is a very broad and nebulous concept. Why is it my fault that I reference it in broad terms?

The observation remains correct that if you find a way to explain what "globalism" is, and if you do so in terms that permit discussion of it having an agenda of its own or of it being the work of somebody who is using it to forward some other "agenda", you are, by definition attaching a conspiracy to it that would not attach if you were defining it merely as some broad historical trend that simply reflected late 20th century economics with long supply chains and maximised profitability via specialisation.

By choosing to handle the thing as an agenda driven process, you are making the choice that comes with the tinfoil hat, not having it thrust upon you.
I don't think that there is a definite agenda behind some globalist construct to world-politics..but I am not certain there isn't either.

So one must query...who decides what people (the masses) are taught throughout school and universities?

Surely, if there is an agenda.. then there IS the smoke from the gun?
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attofishpi wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 10:47 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 10:28 am
Alexis Jacobi wrote: Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:03 pm
A very broad statement. Too broad, as I said earlier.
Surely "globalism" is a very broad and nebulous concept. Why is it my fault that I reference it in broad terms?

The observation remains correct that if you find a way to explain what "globalism" is, and if you do so in terms that permit discussion of it having an agenda of its own or of it being the work of somebody who is using it to forward some other "agenda", you are, by definition attaching a conspiracy to it that would not attach if you were defining it merely as some broad historical trend that simply reflected late 20th century economics with long supply chains and maximised profitability via specialisation.

By choosing to handle the thing as an agenda driven process, you are making the choice that comes with the tinfoil hat, not having it thrust upon you.
I don't think that there is a definite agenda behind some globalist construct to world-politics..but I am not certain there isn't either.

So one must query...who decides what people (the masses) are taught throughout school and universities?

Surely, if there is an agenda.. then there IS the smoke from the gun?
So you are just moving onto the next conspiracy theory, and this time it's about a secret society that decides education policy in some wayt that doesn't favour your views....
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 11:06 am
attofishpi wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 10:47 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 10:28 am
Surely "globalism" is a very broad and nebulous concept. Why is it my fault that I reference it in broad terms?

The observation remains correct that if you find a way to explain what "globalism" is, and if you do so in terms that permit discussion of it having an agenda of its own or of it being the work of somebody who is using it to forward some other "agenda", you are, by definition attaching a conspiracy to it that would not attach if you were defining it merely as some broad historical trend that simply reflected late 20th century economics with long supply chains and maximised profitability via specialisation.

By choosing to handle the thing as an agenda driven process, you are making the choice that comes with the tinfoil hat, not having it thrust upon you.
I don't think that there is a definite agenda behind some globalist construct to world-politics..but I am not certain there isn't either.

So one must query...who decides what people (the masses) are taught throughout school and universities?

Surely, if there is an agenda.. then there IS the smoke from the gun?
So you are just moving onto the next conspiracy theory, and this time it's about a secret society that decides education policy in some wayt that doesn't favour your views....
Nah, more of an agender theory -- insisted upon by idiots of the political LEFT that appear rather determined to under_mine our Western society.

via:-

1. Islamic ideology.
2. Islamic invasion via any means.
3. LEFT wing politics ALLOWING this invasion.
4. Mainstream Media REFUSING to report on violence etc.. from these Islamist Muslims (I can only find reporting via other means)
5. Mainstream Media continually calling RIGHT wing politics as "FAR RIGHT"
6. " " ......continually reporting NEGATIVELY on anyone that leans to the RIGHT as "thugs" "racists" etc..
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attofishpi wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 11:29 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 11:06 am
attofishpi wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 10:47 am

I don't think that there is a definite agenda behind some globalist construct to world-politics..but I am not certain there isn't either.

So one must query...who decides what people (the masses) are taught throughout school and universities?

Surely, if there is an agenda.. then there IS the smoke from the gun?
So you are just moving onto the next conspiracy theory, and this time it's about a secret society that decides education policy in some wayt that doesn't favour your views....
Nah, more of an agender theory -- insisted upon by idiots of the political LEFT that appear rather determined to under_mine our Western society.

via:-

1. Islamic ideology.
2. Islamic invasion via any means.
3. LEFT wing politics ALLOWING this invasion.
4. Mainstream Media REFUSING to report on violence etc.. from these Islamist Muslims (I can only find reporting via other means)
5. Mainstream Media continually calling RIGHT wing politics as "FAR RIGHT"
6. " " ......continually reporting NEGATIVELY on anyone that leans to the RIGHT as "thugs" "racists" etc..
So all that is happening now is that when you get called on one conspiracy theory, you just move onto a different one. But it's still a theory that revolves around a conspiracy to control the world.

This time you are kind of splitting it into two conspiracies, one about an Islamic invasion and one about people being mean and hurting your feely feels by not taking your tinfoil behatted views all that seriously.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 11:38 am
attofishpi wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 11:29 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 11:06 am
So you are just moving onto the next conspiracy theory, and this time it's about a secret society that decides education policy in some wayt that doesn't favour your views....
Nah, more of an agender theory -- insisted upon by idiots of the political LEFT that appear rather determined to under_mine our Western society.

via:-

1. Islamic ideology.
2. Islamic invasion via any means.
3. LEFT wing politics ALLOWING this invasion.
4. Mainstream Media REFUSING to report on violence etc.. from these Islamist Muslims (I can only find reporting via other means)
5. Mainstream Media continually calling RIGHT wing politics as "FAR RIGHT"
6. " " ......continually reporting NEGATIVELY on anyone that leans to the RIGHT as "thugs" "racists" etc..
So all that is happening now is that when you get called on one conspiracy theory, you just move onto a different one. But it's still a theory that revolves around a conspiracy to control the world.

This time you are kind of splitting it into two conspiracies, one about an Islamic invasion and one about people being mean and hurting your feely feels by not taking your tinfoil behatted views all that seriously.
I've not mentioned an organised "conspiracy". Like i've stated, I cannot be certain there is a conspiracy formed by some "globalists" but certainly, there is idiocy from the twats you probably voted for..LABOUR...that are insisting each constituency take a quota of (illegal) immigrants. NO plan to stop illegal immigration, just more ways to put them before UK citizens regarding housing etc..

Actually the Islamic invasion and people hurting us of peaceful nature go hand-in-hand (or are you still not paying attention?)

Need I refer you to the graph that one of your London buddies didn't appear to comprehend? This one:-

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attofishpi wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 11:48 am I've not mentioned an organised "conspiracy". Like i've stated, I cannot be certain there is a conspiracy formed by some "globalists" but certainly, there is idiocy from the twats you probably voted for..LABOUR...that are insisting each constituency take a quota of (illegal) immigrants. NO plan to stop illegal immigration, just more ways to put them before UK citizens regarding housing etc..
The observation remains correct that if you find a way to explain what "globalism" is, and if you do so in terms that permit discussion of it having an agenda of its own or of it being the work of somebody who is using it to forward some other "agenda", you are, by definition attaching a conspiracy to it that would not attach if you were defining it merely as some broad historical trend that simply reflected late 20th century economics with long supply chains and maximised profitability via specialisation.

Same applies to all these other things that you want to suggest are being organised by "somebody" but don't want to use the word "conspiracy" to describe.
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 12:08 pm
attofishpi wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 11:48 am I've not mentioned an organised "conspiracy". Like i've stated, I cannot be certain there is a conspiracy formed by some "globalists" but certainly, there is idiocy from the twats you probably voted for..LABOUR...that are insisting each constituency take a quota of (illegal) immigrants. NO plan to stop illegal immigration, just more ways to put them before UK citizens regarding housing etc..
The observation remains correct that if you find a way to explain what "globalism" is, and if you do so in terms that permit discussion of it having an agenda of its own or of it being the work of somebody who is using it to forward some other "agenda", you are, by definition attaching a conspiracy to it that would not attach if you were defining it merely as some broad historical trend that simply reflected late 20th century economics with long supply chains and maximised profitability via specialisation.
Like I've stated from the OP - I am not certain of some "Globalist Agenda" -- ergo, of a "conspiracy".


FlashDangerpants wrote:Same applies to all these other things that you want to suggest are being organised by "somebody" but don't want to use the word "conspiracy" to describe.
Are you suggesting that the actions (lack of) by conservatives and now Labour allowing rampant illegal immigration is NOT a conspiracy?
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attofishpi wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 11:48 am
FlashDangerpants wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 11:38 am
attofishpi wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 11:29 am

Nah, more of an agender theory -- insisted upon by idiots of the political LEFT that appear rather determined to under_mine our Western society.

via:-

1. Islamic ideology.
2. Islamic invasion via any means.
3. LEFT wing politics ALLOWING this invasion.
4. Mainstream Media REFUSING to report on violence etc.. from these Islamist Muslims (I can only find reporting via other means)
5. Mainstream Media continually calling RIGHT wing politics as "FAR RIGHT"
6. " " ......continually reporting NEGATIVELY on anyone that leans to the RIGHT as "thugs" "racists" etc..
So all that is happening now is that when you get called on one conspiracy theory, you just move onto a different one. But it's still a theory that revolves around a conspiracy to control the world.

This time you are kind of splitting it into two conspiracies, one about an Islamic invasion and one about people being mean and hurting your feely feels by not taking your tinfoil behatted views all that seriously.
I've not mentioned an organised "conspiracy". Like i've stated, I cannot be certain there is a conspiracy formed by some "globalists" but certainly, there is idiocy from the twats you probably voted for..LABOUR...that are insisting each constituency take a quota of (illegal) immigrants. NO plan to stop illegal immigration, just more ways to put them before UK citizens regarding housing etc..

Actually the Islamic invasion and people hurting us of peaceful nature go hand-in-hand (or are you still not paying attention?)

Need I refer you to the graph that one of your London buddies didn't appear to comprehend? This one:-

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So, one who commits a violent crime and who was born overseas, but left that overseas country at say four or five years old, or even younger, and so has spend most of 'their life' living as a "dane", would still be 'classed' and listed by 'nation or origin', here. Which, obviously, has no actual bearing on how they have been 'raised', and what they have 'learned' or 'not learned', while living in "denmark".
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attofishpi wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 12:17 pm Are you suggesting that the actions (lack of) by conservatives and now Labour allowing rampant illegal immigration is NOT a conspiracy?
Are you finally nutting up enough to say what you really mean?
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FlashDangerpants wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 12:37 pm
attofishpi wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 12:17 pm Are you suggesting that the actions (lack of) by conservatives and now Labour allowing rampant illegal immigration is NOT a conspiracy?
Are you finally nutting up enough to say what you really mean?
..all that's missing is\are the motive(s).. :wink:
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attofishpi wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 12:45 pm
FlashDangerpants wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 12:37 pm
attofishpi wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2024 12:17 pm Are you suggesting that the actions (lack of) by conservatives and now Labour allowing rampant illegal immigration is NOT a conspiracy?
Are you finally nutting up enough to say what you really mean?
..all that's missing is\are the motive(s).. :wink:
That might be of interest to you, but for sane people one conspiracy theory is much like any other.
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