WOKE and proud of it....

[Alexis Jacobi]

How does a man ''lose'' their ''defining power"'

See this is what I’m talking about! (Said in the voice of the protagonist in the film Falling Down).

The power to define — to create definitions — is an activity of man’s intellectual world or realm.

Man, you are really gonna take some time.

Now if you’d agree voluntarily to turn yourself in to a reeducation facility you’d shorten the time.

Think about it in any case.

[Gary Childress]

Henpecked: you.

If women are more compassionate and tolerant than men, as AJ seems to believe, then wouldn't "feminine" men likely be more compassionate and tolerant? Wouldn't that be a better thing as far as wars and violence are concerned?

Tolerance is not always a good thing.

True, tolerance isn't always a good thing, and some things cannot be tolerated no matter how they are served.

[Gary Childress]

Gary, I have noticed that you have refrained from public discussion of your masturbation perversions. How did that come about? What influenced you to curtail those revelations?

You and IC said you didn't want to hear it so I mostly stopped talking about it. Would you like me to start back with the topic? I can oblige if you wish it.

Well he did bring the matter up without any prompting, so one must assume it is of interest to him.

[Peter Kropotkin]

K: the wild statements... where exactly in America is ''the kind of
warzone?" You talk about? tell me exactly which city, which state
has become a ''warzone'' and what exactly does that mean?
a ''warzone'' defined as, and defined by whom?

If teachers need to be armed and there need to be armed guards in schools ...

If you feel the need to be armed in order to go to the store ...

If you feel the need to have a weapon in your home in order to be safe ...
then that would seem to qualify as living in a warzone.



K: avoiding my question.... where exactly is this ''warzone''
in America? or put it this way, how am I to avoid it if
I don't know where it is? as far as weapons and the like...
I have never felt the need for a weapon of any kind traveling
anyplace... fear is a state of mind in which one believes
that everyone is out to get you....to kill you...

In my little ''warzone'' we had a murder, maybe 2 or 3 years ago,
a domestic dispute... the city next door, had a murder, maybe
a month ago, before that was 5 years ago... (this murder was
a drug dispute gone wrong, if that is your definition of a ''warzone''
then you have expanded the definition of ''warzone'' to include
everywhere...not just the US) so, where exactly do our American
''warzones'' exists? or said another way, you are being abstract,
theoretical, not concrete or real... ''America is a warzone''
is a theoretical statement, not a real or concrete statement...

you are being very, very vague? I wonder why?

Kropotkin

[Alexis Jacobi]

Gary, I have noticed that you have refrained from public discussion of your masturbation perversions. How did that come about? What influenced you to curtail those revelations?

You and IC said you didn't want to hear it so I mostly stopped talking about it. Would you like me to start back with the topic? I can oblige if you wish it.

Did IC also object?

My point: there is a form of shaming, uniquely masculine, which causes men with a conscience to reflect on what they do. Your permissiveness toward yourself that made it feel right, proper and acceptable to describe your greasy self-pleasuring activities in public was shamed.

That activity — shaming — is an application of decisive manly power.

If you feel comfortable describing masturbation on a public forum, it is not that far a skip to being permissive toward masturbation in public.

Self-permissiveness is then reflected in policies of social permissiveness. Like BJs and urination fetishes on public streets.

This making sense?

[Alexis Jacobi]

Well he did bring the matter up without any prompting, so one must assume it is of interest to him.

Sexual morality, and immorality, has a significant place in my own philosophy of things.

[Harbal]

Well he did bring the matter up without any prompting, so one must assume it is of interest to him.

Sexual morality, and immorality, has a significant place in my own philosophy of things.

Sexual infidelity is the only sexual moral issue I can think of, but I expect you have put more thought into the subject than I have.

[Gary Childress]

Gary, I have noticed that you have refrained from public discussion of your masturbation perversions. How did that come about? What influenced you to curtail those revelations?

You and IC said you didn't want to hear it so I mostly stopped talking about it. Would you like me to start back with the topic? I can oblige if you wish it.

Did IC also object?

My point: there is a form of shaming, uniquely masculine, which causes men with a conscience to reflect on what they do. Your permissiveness toward yourself that made it feel right, proper and acceptable to describe your greasy self-pleasuring activities in public was shamed.

That activity — shaming — is an application of decisive manly power.

As long as you don't become extremely annoying, I'll honor your request. However, it is provisional.

I'd recommend a couple of names of some lovely strumpets guaranteed to please for you to google that might help keep your plumbing going, however, I realize you have never once spanked the monkey yourself, so I won't bother.

[Alexis Jacobi]

The point, Gary, is not you, and is rather the time we are in. Our culture. What we have allowed (through reneging responsibilities). It is so interesting to me how foreign these ideas appear to you. Why is that?

[phyllo]

I have never felt the need for a weapon of any kind traveling
anyplace..

Well lots of Americans feel the need to be armed and for teachers to be armed.

In the United States, where school shootings are most common, advocates have proposed arming teachers as a possible intervention.[25] It is a controversial part of the gun control debate. A 2021 poll found that 43% of Americans supported policies that allow teachers and school personnel to carry guns in schools, while a majority of teachers, parents and students are opposed.[4] In a 2019 national survey of 2,926 teachers, more than 95% did not believe teachers should carry a gun in the classroom,[26] and concerns raised by teachers include how to keep the gun secured in the classroom, with one asking, "If a kid reaches for my gun, am I to shoot them?".[27] A 2022 Trafalgar Group poll found that 57.5% of American believe that policies that prevent trained teachers and school staff from carrying guns make schools a more dangerous place.[28]

The Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1990 applies general restrictions on bringing guns to schools but provides the option for states to designate specific people to carry guns in schools.[29] Research regarding arming and training teachers is limited.[30] While some researchers have not found evidence that arming teachers increases safety in schools, there have been numerous documented incidents of school staff using their firearm to neutralize a shooter.[4]

Schools which have offered firearm training for teachers include schools in the Clifton Independent School District in Texas,[31] Sidney High School in Ohio,[32] and various schools in Florida.[33]

In 2022, some states have been making it easier for teachers to carry firearms for self defense purposes on school campuses. For example, Ohio signed a bill into law that reduced the amount of training hours from 700 to 24 hours, citing that 700 hours was "excessive" and that this and similar legislation is "probably the most important thing we have done to prevent a school shooter in Ohio."[34] In 2022, 28 states allow people other than security staff to carry firearms on school grounds, with laws in nine of those states explicitly mentioning school employees.[35]

On August 1, 2022, a Reason magazine article with Jacob Sullum reporting, commented on a New York Times piece that itself was criticizing the perceived low number of hours required for teachers to be armed in some states, Sullum commented however that, "The real scandal here is not how little training is mandated for teachers who want to carry handguns in school but how little training police officers receive for a job that extends far beyond handling firearms."[36][37] The New York Times opinion staff noted that 2022 was the United States' worst year yet for mass shootings, and described that teachers had been having more discussions about arming themselves.[38]
History[edit]

The idea of arming teachers was considered after the 1999 Columbine High School massacre.[4] In 2011, a proposal to arm teachers was made in response to an Omaha, Nebraska, school shooting in which a student killed the vice principal and then committed suicide. A measure was proposed by Nebraska state senator Mark R. Christensen to allow concealed handguns in schools for security guards, administrators and teachers, but it did not pass the legislature.[39]

The idea gained popularity after the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in Newtown, Connecticut. Following the shooting, some schools began allowing teachers to carry firearms. Notably, the Sidney City School District in Sidney, Ohio, voted to arm teachers and began implementing an armed-response program.[40]

The concept of arming teachers entered the public eye following the 2018 Stoneman Douglas High School shooting, in which 17 people were fatally shot; meeting with students and parents at a gun reform event, President Donald Trump suggested the idea of arming educators.[41][42] Republican politicians in the United States soon expressed their support for arming teachers afterwards, including Betty Olson,[43] Francis Rooney,[44] Michael Speciale,[45] and Betsy DeVos.[46]

The topic of arming teachers resurfaced following the 2022 Robb Elementary School shooting, with Republican lawmakers pushing the idea.[47]
Public opinion polling[edit]

While 43 percent of Americans favor allowing school personnel to carry guns, support for arming teachers is higher among those who own guns, Republicans,[7] and White Americans but lower among Democrats, African Americans, and Hispanic and Latino Americans.[48]

One survey of teachers found that most respondents opposed taking up arms, and also found that some teachers feel excluded from the conversation while political outsiders and commentators discuss it.[49] Two surveys conducted in 2018 indicated many public school teachers do not want to carry guns, and would prefer to have other teachers similarly unarmed. The Gallup poll reported 73 percent of teachers opposed being armed, while the largest teachers union, the National Education Association, reported 82 percent would not carry a gun in school and 64 percent would feel less safe if other faculty were armed.[50] Most parents and students oppose arming teachers.[51][52]

A 2022 Trafalgar Group poll found that 57.5% of Americans believe that policies that prevent trained teachers and school staff from carrying guns make schools a more dangerous place. This belief was more widespread among Republicans (67.5%) than Democrats (48.2%), and among Blacks (73.2%) than Whites (58.6%) or Asians (18.4%).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arming_teachers

[Peter Kropotkin]

How does a man ''lose'' their ''defining power"'

See this is what I’m talking about! (Said in the voice of the protagonist in the film Falling Down).

The power to define — to create definitions — is an activity of man’s intellectual world or realm.

Man, you are really gonna take some time.

Now if you’d agree voluntarily to turn yourself in to a reeducation facility you’d shorten the time.

Think about it in any case.


K: WOW, to believe that the ''power to define- to create definitions-
is an activity of man's intellectual world or realm" that women are not
smart enough to engage in intellectual activities, that only men
are smart enough to engage in intellectual activity.... would come
as a shock to such women as Martha Nussbaum.....for example....
and would be, as if I needed any more confirmation, that you
are not married... and don't even have a girlfriend....or boyfriend
as the case maybe... you are an incel....
and your beliefs show us that..... that women are naturally
inferior to men.... that is incel 101.....

Kropotkin

[Gary Childress]

I have never felt the need for a weapon of any kind traveling
anyplace..

Well lots of Americans feel the need to be armed and for teachers to be armed.

In the United States, where school shootings are most common, advocates have proposed arming teachers as a possible intervention.[25] It is a controversial part of the gun control debate. A 2021 poll found that 43% of Americans supported policies that allow teachers and school personnel to carry guns in schools, while a majority of teachers, parents and students are opposed.[4] In a 2019 national survey of 2,926 teachers, more than 95% did not believe teachers should carry a gun in the classroom,[26] and concerns raised by teachers include how to keep the gun secured in the classroom, with one asking, "If a kid reaches for my gun, am I to shoot them?".[27] A 2022 Trafalgar Group poll found that 57.5% of American believe that policies that prevent trained teachers and school staff from carrying guns make schools a more dangerous place.[28]

The Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1990 applies general restrictions on bringing guns to schools but provides the option for states to designate specific people to carry guns in schools.[29] Research regarding arming and training teachers is limited.[30] While some researchers have not found evidence that arming teachers increases safety in schools, there have been numerous documented incidents of school staff using their firearm to neutralize a shooter.[4]

Schools which have offered firearm training for teachers include schools in the Clifton Independent School District in Texas,[31] Sidney High School in Ohio,[32] and various schools in Florida.[33]

In 2022, some states have been making it easier for teachers to carry firearms for self defense purposes on school campuses. For example, Ohio signed a bill into law that reduced the amount of training hours from 700 to 24 hours, citing that 700 hours was "excessive" and that this and similar legislation is "probably the most important thing we have done to prevent a school shooter in Ohio."[34] In 2022, 28 states allow people other than security staff to carry firearms on school grounds, with laws in nine of those states explicitly mentioning school employees.[35]

On August 1, 2022, a Reason magazine article with Jacob Sullum reporting, commented on a New York Times piece that itself was criticizing the perceived low number of hours required for teachers to be armed in some states, Sullum commented however that, "The real scandal here is not how little training is mandated for teachers who want to carry handguns in school but how little training police officers receive for a job that extends far beyond handling firearms."[36][37] The New York Times opinion staff noted that 2022 was the United States' worst year yet for mass shootings, and described that teachers had been having more discussions about arming themselves.[38]
History[edit]

The idea of arming teachers was considered after the 1999 Columbine High School massacre.[4] In 2011, a proposal to arm teachers was made in response to an Omaha, Nebraska, school shooting in which a student killed the vice principal and then committed suicide. A measure was proposed by Nebraska state senator Mark R. Christensen to allow concealed handguns in schools for security guards, administrators and teachers, but it did not pass the legislature.[39]

The idea gained popularity after the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in Newtown, Connecticut. Following the shooting, some schools began allowing teachers to carry firearms. Notably, the Sidney City School District in Sidney, Ohio, voted to arm teachers and began implementing an armed-response program.[40]

The concept of arming teachers entered the public eye following the 2018 Stoneman Douglas High School shooting, in which 17 people were fatally shot; meeting with students and parents at a gun reform event, President Donald Trump suggested the idea of arming educators.[41][42] Republican politicians in the United States soon expressed their support for arming teachers afterwards, including Betty Olson,[43] Francis Rooney,[44] Michael Speciale,[45] and Betsy DeVos.[46]

The topic of arming teachers resurfaced following the 2022 Robb Elementary School shooting, with Republican lawmakers pushing the idea.[47]
Public opinion polling[edit]

While 43 percent of Americans favor allowing school personnel to carry guns, support for arming teachers is higher among those who own guns, Republicans,[7] and White Americans but lower among Democrats, African Americans, and Hispanic and Latino Americans.[48]

One survey of teachers found that most respondents opposed taking up arms, and also found that some teachers feel excluded from the conversation while political outsiders and commentators discuss it.[49] Two surveys conducted in 2018 indicated many public school teachers do not want to carry guns, and would prefer to have other teachers similarly unarmed. The Gallup poll reported 73 percent of teachers opposed being armed, while the largest teachers union, the National Education Association, reported 82 percent would not carry a gun in school and 64 percent would feel less safe if other faculty were armed.[50] Most parents and students oppose arming teachers.[51][52]

A 2022 Trafalgar Group poll found that 57.5% of Americans believe that policies that prevent trained teachers and school staff from carrying guns make schools a more dangerous place. This belief was more widespread among Republicans (67.5%) than Democrats (48.2%), and among Blacks (73.2%) than Whites (58.6%) or Asians (18.4%).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arming_teachers

And lots of Americans also are against the arming of teachers in schools. The more rational approach in my opinion has been the permanent stationing of trained police officers as adjuncts to school safety.

[Alexis Jacobi]

M. Kropotkin: I said that men carved out the intellectual world historically. In our time women have been brought into that “world” and seem as adept as men.

Heavy thinking and reasoning — and law-making — have been men’s activities.

[BTW I am married if it means anything to you.]

[Gary Childress]

M. Kropotkin: I said that men carved out the intellectual world historically. In our time women have been brought into that “world” and seem as adept as men.

Heavy thinking and reasoning — and law-making — have been men’s activities.

[BTW I am married if it means anything to you.]

Yes. And that's what lead to the birth of modern day feminism. The cat is out of the bag, AJ. If you want to go back to the past, I suggest locking yourself indoors and watching more TV and movies.

[Peter Kropotkin]

I have never felt the need for a weapon of any kind traveling
anyplace..

Well lots of Americans feel the need to be armed and for teachers to be armed.

In the United States, where school shootings are most common, advocates have proposed arming teachers as a possible intervention.[25] It is a controversial part of the gun control debate. A 2021 poll found that 43% of Americans supported policies that allow teachers and school personnel to carry guns in schools, while a majority of teachers, parents and students are opposed.[4] In a 2019 national survey of 2,926 teachers, more than 95% did not believe teachers should carry a gun in the classroom,[26] and concerns raised by teachers include how to keep the gun secured in the classroom, with one asking, "If a kid reaches for my gun, am I to shoot them?".[27] A 2022 Trafalgar Group poll found that 57.5% of American believe that policies that prevent trained teachers and school staff from carrying guns make schools a more dangerous place.[28]

The Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1990 applies general restrictions on bringing guns to schools but provides the option for states to designate specific people to carry guns in schools.[29] Research regarding arming and training teachers is limited.[30] While some researchers have not found evidence that arming teachers increases safety in schools, there have been numerous documented incidents of school staff using their firearm to neutralize a shooter.[4]

Schools which have offered firearm training for teachers include schools in the Clifton Independent School District in Texas,[31] Sidney High School in Ohio,[32] and various schools in Florida.[33]

In 2022, some states have been making it easier for teachers to carry firearms for self defense purposes on school campuses. For example, Ohio signed a bill into law that reduced the amount of training hours from 700 to 24 hours, citing that 700 hours was "excessive" and that this and similar legislation is "probably the most important thing we have done to prevent a school shooter in Ohio."[34] In 2022, 28 states allow people other than security staff to carry firearms on school grounds, with laws in nine of those states explicitly mentioning school employees.[35]

On August 1, 2022, a Reason magazine article with Jacob Sullum reporting, commented on a New York Times piece that itself was criticizing the perceived low number of hours required for teachers to be armed in some states, Sullum commented however that, "The real scandal here is not how little training is mandated for teachers who want to carry handguns in school but how little training police officers receive for a job that extends far beyond handling firearms."[36][37] The New York Times opinion staff noted that 2022 was the United States' worst year yet for mass shootings, and described that teachers had been having more discussions about arming themselves.[38]
History[edit]

The idea of arming teachers was considered after the 1999 Columbine High School massacre.[4] In 2011, a proposal to arm teachers was made in response to an Omaha, Nebraska, school shooting in which a student killed the vice principal and then committed suicide. A measure was proposed by Nebraska state senator Mark R. Christensen to allow concealed handguns in schools for security guards, administrators and teachers, but it did not pass the legislature.[39]

The idea gained popularity after the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting in Newtown, Connecticut. Following the shooting, some schools began allowing teachers to carry firearms. Notably, the Sidney City School District in Sidney, Ohio, voted to arm teachers and began implementing an armed-response program.[40]

The concept of arming teachers entered the public eye following the 2018 Stoneman Douglas High School shooting, in which 17 people were fatally shot; meeting with students and parents at a gun reform event, President Donald Trump suggested the idea of arming educators.[41][42] Republican politicians in the United States soon expressed their support for arming teachers afterwards, including Betty Olson,[43] Francis Rooney,[44] Michael Speciale,[45] and Betsy DeVos.[46]

The topic of arming teachers resurfaced following the 2022 Robb Elementary School shooting, with Republican lawmakers pushing the idea.[47]
Public opinion polling[edit]

While 43 percent of Americans favor allowing school personnel to carry guns, support for arming teachers is higher among those who own guns, Republicans,[7] and White Americans but lower among Democrats, African Americans, and Hispanic and Latino Americans.[48]

One survey of teachers found that most respondents opposed taking up arms, and also found that some teachers feel excluded from the conversation while political outsiders and commentators discuss it.[49] Two surveys conducted in 2018 indicated many public school teachers do not want to carry guns, and would prefer to have other teachers similarly unarmed. The Gallup poll reported 73 percent of teachers opposed being armed, while the largest teachers union, the National Education Association, reported 82 percent would not carry a gun in school and 64 percent would feel less safe if other faculty were armed.[50] Most parents and students oppose arming teachers.[51][52]

A 2022 Trafalgar Group poll found that 57.5% of Americans believe that policies that prevent trained teachers and school staff from carrying guns make schools a more dangerous place. This belief was more widespread among Republicans (67.5%) than Democrats (48.2%), and among Blacks (73.2%) than Whites (58.6%) or Asians (18.4%).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arming_teachers

K: the lie in this is made clear by the school shooting in Uvalde Texas....
the police there declined to go into the classroom for over an
HOUR.... even with having massive firepower advantage...
and hundreds of police officers... they still wouldn't go into
the classroom because they were in fear of the gunman....
and these are trained, professional police.....
and if they won't get into it with a single shooter,
why would an untrained/barely teacher get into it?
the police very response tells us that even with guns or
a massive firepower advantage, they still wouldn't get into
it with a lone gunman.....

in the above you posted... it deals with theory, not with reality....
the reality is that having a gun cannot and does not protect one...
as the police response in Uvalde shows us....

you can arm the teachers with machine guns, and it will still
not protect either the teachers or the students....
guns don't protect anyone.....it is just another right wing lie....
as the police in Uvalde shows us...

Kropotkin