WOKE and proud of it....

[henry quirk]

Gun ownership isn't common in Toronto

Yeah, I know. Mebbe it should be.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cRcfqpyuk ... B3aXRoIGl0

[Gary Childress]

It seems that violent crime per capita has decreased significantly since the 1990s in the US. Is it accurate to believe that our society is morally declining?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/191 ... ince-1990/

[phyllo]

Gun ownership isn't common in Toronto

Yeah, I know. Mebbe it should be.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cRcfqpyuk ... B3aXRoIGl0

Nah, it shouldn't be.

People don't want to live in the kind of warzone that Americans have made for themselves.

[henry quirk]

People don't want to live in the kind of warzone that Americans have made for themselves.

Well we sure don't want that. So, sure, let them guys take the car. After that: the house? the wife or daughter or son? lives?

Meh, we'll keep the peace, even if it kills us (not them).

Good plan.

[Gary Childress]

It seems that violent crime per capita has decreased significantly since the 1990s in the US. Is it accurate to believe that our society is morally declining?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/191 ... ince-1990/

It's almost as if Phyllo and Henry didn't see my post.

[henry quirk]

I saw it. I don't trust stats.

Is it accurate to believe that our society is morally declining?

There's not one, overarching, society. Nationally, there's five to eight Americas. Within each America there are a number of societies, and within each of those, smaller societies (keep goin' and you end up at the foundation of any society: the individuals).

Anyway...

Some societies are in decline. Others are rotting carcasses. Most though, pretty much any where outside a metropolis or metropolis-dominated region, are doin' okay.

[Gary Childress]

https://thehill.com/homenews/4606161-us ... s-falling/

Why is the violent crime rate falling? No one seems to know for sure.

[Gary Childress]

I saw it. I don't trust stats.

How can you base anything on anything if you don't trust stats?

[henry quirk]

How can you base anything on anything if you don't trust stats?

The question doesn't make sense to me: please, elaborate.

[Peter Kropotkin]

Alexis Jacobi:
Monsieur Kropotkin: It is men -- I use the term manliness for a general state of mind and an attitude -- who define values. When values are concretely defined they also become mores and laws. There at first is required the defining act. It is intellectual and is best carried out non-emotionally.

K: umm, perhaps you may be able to explain this to me.... if
''manliness'' is a state of mind, then those men who believe themselves
to be women, which is also a ''state of mind'' and thus, must be acceptable to
you... as both are, as you say, a state of mind....

AJ: Men who renege on their responsibilities do so for a group of reasons. One of which is that they don't use, or surrender, their masculine, deciding and defining mind. This idea runs through everything I write.

K: again, with the abstract, theoretical... what does
''they don't use, or surrender, their masculine, deciding and defining mind''

actually mean? in real concrete terms... not abstract or theoretical, as
you use it.... what does that that mean in real life?

AJ:
In the sense that I use the term 'feminization' I mean losing this defining power, or allowing it to be undermined. The world of ideas, in my view of things, is a man's world. I do not mean to say that women, now more than ever, do not or cannot participate in it but that it was carved out historically by men.

K: a dubious thought at best.... how does a man ''lose'' their ''defining power"'
which in itself means nothing... what the fuck is one's ''defining power?"
and, again, historically, women teach us right from wrong, not men....
your mother taught you right from wrong, not your father.....
How do I know? I am a father and a son.... I know the process involved...
your father may have confirmed it, but it was your mother who taught you
right from wrong.....

AJ: Nevertheless, I do not have strong evidence that even you description of women as the upholders of morality is factual. In my view, in my experience, it is women who have become *comfortable* with (in reference to my example) homosexual antics. In any case, you must understand my use of the terms masculine and feminine in precisely the way that I mean, not as you wish to read it.

K: basically your idea of masculine and feminine is wrong and why is it wrong?
it flies in the face of experience.... a home is the place where
a woman dominates... it is the women world, not a man's world...
and thus, the choices for children is left to women, as that has
been the women's traditional role...since the beginning of time...
education in children before 5 is done by the women...not the men....
as was done for you..... your mother educated you, taught you
right and wrong before you were 5, not your father.....

Kropotkin

[Gary Childress]

How can you base anything on anything if you don't trust stats?

The question doesn't make sense to me: please, elaborate.

How do you refute stats if you don't use stats to refute them?

[Peter Kropotkin]

Gun ownership isn't common in Toronto

Yeah, I know. Mebbe it should be.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cRcfqpyuk ... B3aXRoIGl0

Nah, it shouldn't be.

People don't want to live in the kind of warzone that Americans have made for themselves.

K: the wild statements... where exactly in America is ''the kind of
warzone?" You talk about? tell me exactly which city, which state
has become a ''warzone'' and what exactly does that mean?
a ''warzone'' defined as, and defined by whom?

Kropotkin

[henry quirk]

Why is the violent crime rate falling? No one seems to know for sure.

Some say violent crime is falling becuz of better policing, community outreach, etc.; some say violent crime is on the rise but a great many crimes aren't being formally documented becuz of a degradation in policing, community manipulation, etc. And all have the stats to prove it.

[phyllo]

It seems that violent crime per capita has decreased significantly since the 1990s in the US. Is it accurate to believe that our society is morally declining?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/191 ... ince-1990/

It's almost as if Phyllo and Henry didn't see my post.

I didn't see it.

And when I did see it, I wasn't sure what to make of it. Cause when I look at the stats for Canada, statista shows that the violent crime rates for Canada is 4 times higher than for the US.

This seems odd. Attempts to get more statistics from different sources to clarify the matter, leads down a rabbit hole without end.

I'm still not sure if the numbers are correct or not.

[henry quirk]

How do you refute stats if you don't use stats to refute them?

Oh, I'm not tryin' to refute anything, Gary. My days of selling ideas and moving heads are long past. I'm just speakin' my mind, is all. What any of you do with that -- ignore it or do your own research -- that's on you.