Teach Your Children Well

[Age]

No brag, just fact.

And, absolutely no clarity provided, either.

Which is just 'another fact'. But, at least 'this fact', however, no one could refute, nor disagree with, at all.

[Walker]

No brag, just fact.

And, absolutely no clarity provided, either.

Which is just 'another fact'. But, at least 'this fact', however, no one could refute, nor disagree with, at all.

You got plenty of clarity. In fact, all you need.

[Harbal]

It points to how people who do not have children of their own often think that they know better how to raise them than people who actually have experience of raising children.

Is 'this' the only thing that that quote points to, to you?

That's my interpretation, yes, but I don't know the origine or actual intent of the quote.

[Age]

No brag, just fact.

And, absolutely no clarity provided, either.

Which is just 'another fact'. But, at least 'this fact', however, no one could refute, nor disagree with, at all.

You got plenty of clarity. In fact, all you need.

So, "walker" claims that it has:

Lots of children and grandchildren, and that they are, all brilliant, good looking, and accomplished. And, that, Folks often marvel.

I then just asked "walker" the following six very simple and very easy clarifying questions:

Could you come across 'more arrogant' here, "walker"?

How many is 'lots', exactly, and what is the word 'lots' here relative to, exactly?

What happens if just one of these children/grandchildren were 'not brilliant', 'not good looking', and/or 'not accomplished'?

Would this mean that 'they' have failed, or that 'you' have failed, or some thing else?

What is 'brilliant', 'good looking', and 'accomplished' in relation to, exactly?

And, "folks", supposedly, 'marvel' at 'what', exactly?

To which "walker's", only, reply was:

No brag, just fact.

I then pointed out:

That absolutely no clarity at all was provided.

To which it then, laughingly, claimed that I:

Got plenty of clarity.

If absolutely any one can 'see' absolutely any clarity here, from "walker", to the actual clarifying questions that I posed, and asked to "walker" here, then will you please share 'it/them'?

[Age]

It points to how people who do not have children of their own often think that they know better how to raise them than people who actually have experience of raising children.

Is 'this' the only thing that that quote points to, to you?

That's my interpretation, yes, but I don't know the origine or actual intent of the quote.

I did not ask if that was 'your interpretation', that is plainly obvious. I was just wondering if 'your interpretation' here is the 'only one', or not?

And, I also do not 'know' the origin or actual intent of the quote, too.

[Harbal]

Is 'this' the only thing that that quote points to, to you?

That's my interpretation, yes, but I don't know the origine or actual intent of the quote.

I did not ask if that was 'your interpretation', that is plainly obvious.

Are you deliberately trying to annoy me, or do you honestly not know how to respond to people properly?

I was just wondering if 'your interpretation' here is the 'only one', or not?

It's the only one I've got.

[Age]

That's my interpretation, yes, but I don't know the origine or actual intent of the quote.

I did not ask if that was 'your interpretation', that is plainly obvious.

Are you deliberately trying to annoy me, or do you honestly not know how to respond to people properly?

To me, 'we' are in a 'philosophy forum', where, to me, it is of the upmost importance that absolutely every word expresses the actual and irrefutable Truth of things. If you find 'this' annoying, then okay. I understand you feel 'annoyed', but I will communicate how, and when, I want to.

Also, for a Truly 'matured' human being absolutely nothing can 'annoy them'. As they 'know' that if there is any feeling of 'annoyance', within, then this is because they have allowed "themselves" to 'feel annoyed'. See, to the Truly 'mature' there is absolutely nothing in the whole Universe, nor even the Universe, Itself, which could, actually, annoy them.

And, no I am certainly not trying to deliberately annoy you.

I am 'well aware' and 'know' that my writings and/or 'the way' that I communicate with you human beings here, in this forum, might well annoy some of you, or even all of you posters here. But, so be it. I have set a goal, and I will do what is needed to achieve it.

Furthermore, as for the word 'properly, in relation to responding to you people here, 'I' am responding to you people here, properly. But, because 'properly, is an extremely relative word, you, or others, may not 'see' the exact same 'thing' here.

I was just wondering if 'your interpretation' here is the 'only one', or not?

It's the only one I've got.

Okay. Thank you for clarifying, finally.

It took a while, but 'we' got here, eventually.

[Fairy]

''Everyone knows how to raise children except the people who have them'' < That's a metaphysical quote Harbal.

That quote is an Incorrect quote.

If the ones who have children did not know how to 'raise' children, then there would not be a human species.
There is, still, a human species, in the days when this is being written, even millions of years later.
Therefore, human beings who have children actually do know how to 'raise' children. (Again, 'raising children' is just another 'instinctively known' thing.)

It's correct.

People do not have children. To 'have' implies to 'own'. People do not own children. People guide children as extensions of their own self, since the child appeared from out of the self that birthed it, the child is essentially inseparable from the life giver. Only the illusion of 'space' separates the child from it's parent.

( if I have seen further than others, it is because I have stood on the shoulders of the giants that have gone before me )
( Seamlessly ) being the opti-mum word, pardon the mum pun... operational.

Everyone is the same as Everything. Everything already knows how to organise itself. It's self-organising, perfectly operational. Everything is perfectly functioning all of it's own accord right here and now. Walking happens, talking happens, breathing happens, living happens, dying happens...all by itself, alone. And the grass grows all by itself.

And so, separation being the illusion, the parent never raises the child, life, aka everything, everyone raises the child. Life is a self-sustaining, self-raising flower, a blooming marvelous marvel.





Fairy Liquid mind is the perfect mind cleaning agent for vanishing away all the stubborn residue of dirty mind.

[Harbal]

I did not ask if that was 'your interpretation', that is plainly obvious.

Are you deliberately trying to annoy me, or do you honestly not know how to respond to people properly?

To me, 'we' are in a 'philosophy forum', where, to me, it is of the upmost importance that absolutely every word expresses the actual and irrefutable Truth of things. If you find 'this' annoying, then okay. I understand you feel 'annoyed', but I will communicate how, and when, I want to.

Yet you do nothing but criticise and complain when people respond back to you how they want to.

Also, for a Truly 'matured' human being absolutely nothing can 'annoy them'. As they 'know' that if there is any feeling of 'annoyance', within, then this is because they have allowed "themselves" to 'feel annoyed'. See, to the Truly 'mature' there is absolutely nothing in the whole Universe, nor even the Universe, Itself, which could, actually, annoy them.

Rubbish!

And, no I am certainly not trying to deliberately annoy you.

Then the number of accidents you are causing here obviously does not bother you.

I am 'well aware' and 'know' that my writings and/or 'the way' that I communicate with you human beings here, in this forum, might well annoy some of you, or even all of you posters here. But, so be it. I have set a goal, and I will do what is needed to achieve it.

Creating hostility towards you is all you will achieve if you carry on as you are.

Furthermore, as for the word 'properly, in relation to responding to you people here, 'I' am responding to you people here, properly.

You are responding like a proper dick head.

I was just wondering if 'your interpretation' here is the 'only one', or not?

It's the only one I've got.

Okay. Thank you for clarifying, finally.

It took a while, but 'we' got here, eventually.

Make the most of it, because the next time you ask me anything, I will probably tell you to fuck off.

[Age]

''Everyone knows how to raise children except the people who have them'' < That's a metaphysical quote Harbal.

That quote is an Incorrect quote.

If the ones who have children did not know how to 'raise' children, then there would not be a human species.
There is, still, a human species, in the days when this is being written, even millions of years later.
Therefore, human beings who have children actually do know how to 'raise' children. (Again, 'raising children' is just another 'instinctively known' thing.)

It's correct.

People do not have children. To 'have' implies to 'own'. People do not own children. People guide children as extensions of their own self, since the child appeared from out of the self that birthed it, the child is essentially inseparable from the life giver. Only the illusion of 'space' separates the child from it's parent.

( if I have seen further than others, it is because I have stood on the shoulders of the giants that have gone before me )
( Seamlessly ) being the opti-mum word, pardon the mum pun... operational.

Everyone is the same as Everything. Everything already knows how to organise itself. It's self-organising, perfectly operational. Everything is perfectly functioning all of it's own accord right here and now. Walking happens, talking happens, breathing happens, living happens, dying happens...all by itself, alone. And the grass grows all by itself.

And, the reason why you human beings went down the Wrong 'path' or 'track', in Life, is because they had learned to try to 'justify' their become greedy and selfish, which all arose from one human being 'wanting' what they did not 'need', which was told in the 'parable' of "eve", a word denoting the beginning, or the starting of a 'new day', 'new age', or 'new era', along the continuous evolution line, who 'wanted' what "she" 'knew' was wrong 'to want' or 'to desire', and 'to take', but 'justified' 'the taking of the 'shining red', 'tempting', fruit, by claiming that something else 'told "her" to do it'. That other thing was inside the 'human being' known here as "eve", in the 'thoughts and thinking', which were 'telling' "eve" to just 'take it', based on 'the lies' that were being 'told' by the False and Wrong thinking. The 'parable' tells of 'a snake', or 'serpent', who was doing the lying and deceiving. The words 'snake' or 'serpent' were used because they are, literally, the 'lowest' animal, or 'lowest form' on earth, which is the very exact opposite of 'God', or 'instinctive knowing', which is 'up, high above'. The 'snake' also have a 'forked tongue' is to symbolize, or denotes to, the 'lying' in the 'thinking' within that human body known as "eve", telling "eve" to take the apple, because a 'forked tongue' symbolizes, or denotes, the 'splitting of the truth', through 'speaking of lies', which is what the snake was, metaphorically, doing when it was the 'Wrong thinking' telling "eve" 'what to do', which was 'intuitively known' to be Wrong. I do not like to separate 'sexes' at all, but so that some people, in the days when this is being written, can better follow, and understand, "eve" being the way "females" are, in the days when this is being, have 'a tendency', when walking through shopping malls, to 'want' the 'shining red' 'apple or fruit', which just denotes when seeing some thing, that is 'desirably wanted'. And, what "men" have 'a tendency" to do, is when questioned about what "he" also ate of the fruit, of 'the tree', very quickly and almost instantly 'blamed' "eve" for, again, 'telling' "him" to also do it. Instead of 'accepting and taking absolutely any responsibility at all here', "adam" a so-called "man" took no responsibility at all, and 'blamed' another straight away. Which, in the days when this is being written, could be said to be a very strong tendency of "men", or obviously far more correctly ' some "men" '.

Now, and again, there are countless of other things and examples, which all end up backing up and supporting 'each other', 'fitting in', perfectly, of the One and only True picture and Truth of things, HERE.

Now, since when animals evolved into the 'human being' species, who had obtained some 'conscious awareness' of 'knowing' what is Right and Wrong, in Life, (this is where distinguishing 'Right', from, 'Wrong', really, comes into play), and why although Life, Itself, 'plays out', exactly, how 'It is, does, and is 'meant to'. It may not seem 'Right' that you adult human beings are fighting and killing each other, and absolutely destroying your one and ONLY home, earth, but this is all part of the 'Self-organizing' Organism, Universe, Itself, doing what is best and Right, for Itself.

See, you human beings, the only 'known', by you anyway, Truly 'intelligent species', in the whole Universe, learn best 'through and by' 'your mistakes'.

So, you were 'pre-programmed' to 'do Wrong', and you will keep 'doing so', until you learn best, from 'your mistakes', and then when you do, collectively, will begin to start 'doing ONLY what is Right, and good, in Life'.

Therefore, the more Wrong you, individually and collectively, keep doing, and thus the more mistakes you, individually and collectively, keep making 'now', when this is being written, then the more Right you, all, will learn, and have 'learned from'. This is why 'I' have allowed you all to think and do absolutely any thing that any or all of you want to do, and think.

It could be said and argued that 'I', the Universe, Existence, Life, thy Self, 'gave' you human beings absolute 'free-will' 'knowing' that you would do Wrong/make mistakes, from which you call all learn from, individually and collective, which in turn you will THEN begin to keep moving to making and creating a 'Truly loving, peaceful, and harmonious world' for absolutely every one, as One.

'I' am, always, Creating this One and only Universe, for what 'it' is that absolutely every one Truly wants, and desires, anyway.

See, there is absolutely nothing Wrong in 'desiring' for 'better', but only in the sense of 'better' being for, and with, absolutely every one, as the One Truly unified, One.

And so, separation being the illusion, the parent never raises the child, life, aka everything, everyone raises the child. Life is a self-sustaining, self-raising flower, a blooming marvelous marvel.

Yes, the Universe is 'Self-sustaining', eternally HERE-NOW.

Some just cannot yet 'see' this clearly, nor fully, yet.

But, this is the beauty of evolution, itself.

All comes-to-be 'seen', and 'known'. All things are not, 'instantly, consciously, known', to all things.

Although ALL things are 'unconsciously known'. They just 'be-come known', to a species like the always evolving and always learning human being.

Fairy Liquid mind is the perfect mind cleaning agent for vanishing away all the stubborn residue of dirty mind.

[Age]

Are you deliberately trying to annoy me, or do you honestly not know how to respond to people properly?

To me, 'we' are in a 'philosophy forum', where, to me, it is of the upmost importance that absolutely every word expresses the actual and irrefutable Truth of things. If you find 'this' annoying, then okay. I understand you feel 'annoyed', but I will communicate how, and when, I want to.

Yet you do nothing but criticise and complain when people respond back to you how they want to.

1. Are you absolutely sure that I do 'absolutely nothing' but what you say and claim I do here?

2. Could what you 'see' as 'criticize and complain', by me, might not actually be?

3. Considering that I want you people to respond back to me and back to "yourselves", exactly, how you want to, then it would be very, very surprising that I would actually 'criticize and complain' when you people do, exactly, what I want.

Also, for a Truly 'matured' human being absolutely nothing can 'annoy them'. As they 'know' that if there is any feeling of 'annoyance', within, then this is because they have allowed "themselves" to 'feel annoyed'. See, to the Truly 'mature' there is absolutely nothing in the whole Universe, nor even the Universe, Itself, which could, actually, annoy them.

Rubbish!

So, 'you' have already reached 'absolute maturity', and thus 'know', for sure, and absolutely, that what I have said and wrote here is what you call 'rubbish', right?

And, if 'others', still, have the ability to, and the 'power' over 'you', to make 'you' 'feel annoyed', or 'to make you' 'feel' any other 'emotion', then are you sure that just maybe 'you' have not yet reached and achieved 'full maturity', yet?

See, there is absolutely nothing that any of you human beings, nor absolutely any thing in the whole Universe that could, nor would, 'make' 'me' feel absolutely any thing, at all.

'I have the 'power' and 'control' over ALL of the 'emotions' within 'this body', and so ONLY when 'I' allow 'emotions' to 'rise', and/or 'fall', then this is when they do, or not.

And, no I am certainly not trying to deliberately annoy you.

Then the number of accidents you are causing here obviously does not bother you.

That 'I', still, have this much 'power' and 'control' over 'you', especially at what stage of the human life 'you' are at "harbal" surprises me.

'I' would have thought that, especially, 'you' would not have 'handed over' so much 'power' and 'control' to 'me', here.

you had here, previously, come across as one not so easily and simply 'affected' by 'others' here.

I am 'well aware' and 'know' that my writings and/or 'the way' that I communicate with you human beings here, in this forum, might well annoy some of you, or even all of you posters here. But, so be it. I have set a goal, and I will do what is needed to achieve it.

Creating hostility towards you is all you will achieve if you carry on as you are.

Okay. If this is what you want to believe is true, then this is perfectly fine with me.

Furthermore, as for the word 'properly, in relation to responding to you people here, 'I' am responding to you people here, properly.

You are responding like a proper dick head.

Well considering what the actually irrefutable Truth is here, once again, 'I' will leave 'you', and 'the readers' here, with this statement and claim of 'yours' here.

It's the only one I've got.

Okay. Thank you for clarifying, finally.

It took a while, but 'we' got here, eventually.

Make the most of it, because the next time you ask me anything, I will probably tell you to fuck off.

Okay.

[Iwannaplato]

I was just wondering if 'your interpretation' here is the 'only one', or not?

It's the only one I've got.

Okay. Thank you for clarifying, finally.

It took a while, but 'we' got here, eventually.

Just to be on the safe side, I'll point out I didn't say what I quoted as saying above.

[Walker]

"You got plenty of clarity. In fact, all you need."

Shame on you Age. Bad Age. Bad.

In your screed,
you omitted,
"all you need."

You have all the clarity you need concerning your questions.

One wonders: was the omission hidden by some blind spot, or to be less generous, was it a nefarious calculation?

You will always be limited by a lack of infinite knowledge. Stamping your feet and demanding more, like a spoiled child, won't get you far with adult philosophy.

[Walker]

People do not have children. To 'have' implies to 'own'.

Only if that's what you come to see. (RIP, Kinky Friedman)

“Have,” is not limited to a single, simple definition. "Have," is like a fine wine, with complex notes. "Have," is not the rotgut of language that means only an owner/slave relationship, although in the case of owners and slaves, it would be.

[Age]

"You got plenty of clarity. In fact, all you need."

Shame on you Age. Bad Age. Bad.

In your screed,
you omitted,
"all you need."

You have all the clarity you need concerning your questions.

One wonders: was the omission hidden by some blind spot, or to be less generous, was it a nefarious calculation?

You will always be limited by a lack of infinite knowledge. Stamping your feet and demanding more, like a spoiled child, won't get you far with adult philosophy.

So, "walker" claims that it has:
Lots of children and grandchildren, and that they are, all brilliant, good looking, and accomplished. And, that, Folks often marvel.

I then just asked "walker" six very simple and very easy clarifying questions, like:

Could you come across 'more arrogant' here, "walker"?

How many is 'lots', exactly, and what is the word 'lots' here relative to, exactly?

What happens if just one of these children/grandchildren were 'not brilliant', 'not good looking', and/or 'not accomplished'?

Would this mean that 'they' have failed, or that 'you' have failed, or some thing else?

What is 'brilliant', 'good looking', and 'accomplished' in relation to, exactly?

And, "folks", supposedly, 'marvel' at 'what', exactly?

To which "walker" then claims:

No brag, just fact.

I then said, wrote, and pointed out the obvious Fact:

That absolutely no clarity at all was provided.

To which "walker" then, laughingly, claimed that I:

Got plenty of clarity.

And, supposedly, all that I needed, as well.

"walker" actually 'believes', absolutely, that I have gotten all the clarity I need concerning my questions.

Now, once again:
If absolutely any one can 'see' absolutely any clarity here, from "walker", to the actual clarifying questions that I posed, and asked to "walker" here, then will you please share that 'clarity' here?

Obviously, "walker" will not answer and clarify my questions here, because walker has 'no need' to have its inconsistencies and contradictions to be 'brought-to-light', 'highlighted', and shown and revealed to all here.