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Re: Apology to the forum

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Age wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 12:02 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:07 am
Flannel Jesus wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:00 am

What are the tenets of liberalism, in your view? Which ones are wrong, in your view?
The tents of liberalism as I understand them are liberty, fraternity, equality, toleration and just about every other charitable trait that can be had.
Are you a christian now? Are you a Trump supporter now?
I don't know what I am. To some I'm a "heathen". To others I might be something else. To my doctors I've always been schizo-affective (or else bipolar with psychotic features). And sometimes, I'm just he who wants out of this world.
Could 'you' just be a 'human being', which, itself, is just made up of a visible human body, and, invisible changing thoughts and emotions, within the body, only?
I'm pretty sure I'm a human being. Why do you ask?
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Re: Apology to the forum

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Gary Childress wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 12:05 pm
Age wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 12:02 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 11:07 am

The tents of liberalism as I understand them are liberty, fraternity, equality, toleration and just about every other charitable trait that can be had.



I don't know what I am. To some I'm a "heathen". To others I might be something else. To my doctors I've always been schizo-affective (or else bipolar with psychotic features). And sometimes, I'm just he who wants out of this world.
Could 'you' just be a 'human being', which, itself, is just made up of a visible human body, and, invisible changing thoughts and emotions, within the body, only?
I'm pretty sure I'm a human being. Why do you ask?
Once again, another seems to have missed 'the point', absolutely.

I ask are 'you' 'just a 'human being', not from the context of that 'you' are not in any way, but in that you are just, or only, a 'human being', and absolutely nothing else but a 'human being', only.

Because, if you or absolutely anyone was to 'look' and 'delve down', to absolute depths of every thing, what is 'uncovered' and revealed is that ALL of the 'other names and labels' that 'you', human beings, try to 'put on' "yourselves" or even try to 'stick on' "yourselves" is absolute impossibility.

For example, if absolutely any one of 'you' wants to try here to say and claim that 'you' are something else other than a 'human being' only, then I will show and prove how 'you' are NOT.
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Re: Apology to the forum

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Age wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:10 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 12:05 pm
Age wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 12:02 pm

Could 'you' just be a 'human being', which, itself, is just made up of a visible human body, and, invisible changing thoughts and emotions, within the body, only?
I'm pretty sure I'm a human being. Why do you ask?
Once again, another seems to have missed 'the point', absolutely.

I ask are 'you' 'just a 'human being', not from the context of that 'you' are not in any way, but in that you are just, or only, a 'human being', and absolutely nothing else but a 'human being', only.

Because, if you or absolutely anyone was to 'look' and 'delve down', to absolute depths of every thing, what is 'uncovered' and revealed is that ALL of the 'other names and labels' that 'you', human beings, try to 'put on' "yourselves" or even try to 'stick on' "yourselves" is absolute impossibility.

For example, if absolutely any one of 'you' wants to try here to say and claim that 'you' are something else other than a 'human being' only, then I will show and prove how 'you' are NOT.
It's sunny outside with almost no clouds here this morning. How's the weather where you are?
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Re: Apology to the forum

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Age wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:10 pm
Once again, another seems to have missed 'the point', absolutely.

I ask are 'you' 'just a 'human being', not from the context of that 'you' are not in any way, but in that you are just, or only, a 'human being', and absolutely nothing else but a 'human being', only.

Because, if you or absolutely anyone was to 'look' and 'delve down', to absolute depths of every thing, what is 'uncovered' and revealed is that ALL of the 'other names and labels' that 'you', human beings, try to 'put on' "yourselves" or even try to 'stick on' "yourselves" is absolute impossibility.

For example, if absolutely any one of 'you' wants to try here to say and claim that 'you' are something else other than a 'human being' only, then I will show and prove how 'you' are NOT.
Someone needs to bring grandpa to bed.
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Re: Apology to the forum

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being a heathen isn't a problem- being a half-assed heathen is rudely sacrilegious...

-Imp
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Re: Apology to the forum

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Gary Childress wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:18 pm
Age wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:10 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 12:05 pm

I'm pretty sure I'm a human being. Why do you ask?
Once again, another seems to have missed 'the point', absolutely.

I ask are 'you' 'just a 'human being', not from the context of that 'you' are not in any way, but in that you are just, or only, a 'human being', and absolutely nothing else but a 'human being', only.

Because, if you or absolutely anyone was to 'look' and 'delve down', to absolute depths of every thing, what is 'uncovered' and revealed is that ALL of the 'other names and labels' that 'you', human beings, try to 'put on' "yourselves" or even try to 'stick on' "yourselves" is absolute impossibility.

For example, if absolutely any one of 'you' wants to try here to say and claim that 'you' are something else other than a 'human being' only, then I will show and prove how 'you' are NOT.
It's sunny outside with almost no clouds here this morning. How's the weather where you are?
Do you want to 'know' in regards to, in the day, or time, when you wrote this, in the day, or time, when I respond to this, or in the day, or time, when you read my reply and answer. Because obviously like the thinking and thoughts within are continually changing day to day at time to time, so to is the weather.
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'you', human beings, can keep 'trying to' say and claim that you are;

"christians"
"buddihsts"
"scientists"
"athiests"
"moral realists"
"immoral realists"
"muslims"
"teachers"
"students"
"americans"
"british"
"british christian"
"british muslim"
"english teachers"
"racing car drivers"
"mothers"
"fathers"
"grandpas"
"grandmas"
"socialists"
"democrats"
"liberals"
"communists"
"capitalists"
"consumers"
"doctors"
"lawyers"
"cosmologists", or even
"philosophers".

But, 'you', human beings, are never actually any of these things, at all. And, never will be.

'you', human beings, are made up of a visible physically body, AND just an ever changing set of 'thoughts', or 'views', which are, literally, ever changing because 'the physical body' is continually 'experiencing' different things, or continually 'seeing/observing' different things, all of the time. (Unless, of course, a 'belief' is preventing and/or stopping 'new/er views', from entering.

'you', human beings, ARE made up of a 'human body', AND, 'changing thoughts' (and emotions), ONLY.

'you', human beings, are NOT anything else, at all.
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Re: Apology to the forum

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Age wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 12:48 am 'you', human beings, can keep 'trying to' say and claim that you are;

"christians"
"buddihsts"
"scientists"
"athiests"
"moral realists"
"immoral realists"
"muslims"
"teachers"
"students"
"americans"
"british"
"british christian"
"british muslim"
"english teachers"
"racing car drivers"
"mothers"
"fathers"
"grandpas"
"grandmas"
"socialists"
"democrats"
"liberals"
"communists"
"capitalists"
"consumers"
"doctors"
"lawyers"
"cosmologists", or even
"philosophers".

But, 'you', human beings, are never actually any of these things, at all. And, never will be.

'you', human beings, are made up of a visible physically body, AND just an ever changing set of 'thoughts', or 'views', which are, literally, ever changing because 'the physical body' is continually 'experiencing' different things, or continually 'seeing/observing' different things, all of the time. (Unless, of course, a 'belief' is preventing and/or stopping 'new/er views', from entering.

'you', human beings, ARE made up of a 'human body', AND, 'changing thoughts' (and emotions), ONLY.

'you', human beings, are NOT anything else, at all.
Hilarious that you would say all this stupid useless tripe, back in the days this was written
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Re: Apology to the forum

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Age wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 12:48 am 'you', human beings, can keep 'trying to' say and claim that you are;
It really seems like people actually manage to say and claim that they are, for example, christians, buddhists, scientists...rather than merely 'trying to' - whatever those words end up meaning when in scare quotes. But perhaps I have different experiences than "age" who may be not have much face to face contact with people. In any case, not only can they, they do. They not only try, but succeed.
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Re: Apology to the forum

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Age wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 12:48 am 'you', human beings, can keep 'trying to' say and claim that you are;
I think "age" has a lot of gall coming to Gary Childress' thread and being his usual pedantic self.

Once in communication with Gary, you just assumed he fit your negative judgments of humans, did not manage to actually notice the individual you were writing to often blamed himself and not others. You said things like this to him....
See how, back then, to these people it was always 'them' who are bad and do wrong, and it was never 'them' who were bad or did wrong.
This would be a hilariously bad read of someone, if it wasn't in fact part of a completely off in the clouds of your own ego rudeness in the context of a response to GC.

See the rest of this toxic post here...
viewtopic.php?p=689453&sid=9fb038daaf7f ... 41#p689453

It is simply beyond this one's conceiving that people can and are also trained to blame themselves, to consider the possibility that the person he was talking to often does this.

He has his lectures ready to fire and he found a trigger for one and aimed it at Gary, and than at us all.

How could someone who claims to know what we need to bring peace etc., know so little about humans as to think it is always 'them' who are bad and wrong?
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Re: Apology to the forum

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Iwannaplato wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 7:41 am
How could someone who claims to know what we need to bring peace etc., know so little about humans as to think it is always 'them' who are bad and wrong?
No claim, no blame.

No one claims, no one blames.
Any yet, someone claims, someone blames.

Choose the right one, and know that only the right one, is responsible for that one. And that is it no one business, but their business, alone.

Leave the alone to just be alone peacefully. What's the point, boxing with shadows. It's pointless, petty, pedantic, and egotistical.

Trying to smack the image in the mirror is pointless, it won't feel anything.
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Re: Apology to the forum

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Flannel Jesus wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:22 am What have you been wrong about?
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:35 amApparently, everything.
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:35 amOnce ill, always ill.
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Re: Apology to the forum

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Fairy wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 10:59 am
Flannel Jesus wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:22 am What have you been wrong about?
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:35 amApparently, everything.
Gary Childress wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:35 amOnce ill, always ill.
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Re: Apology to the forum

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Fairy wrote: Fri Jun 28, 2024 10:42 am No claim, no blame.

No one claims, no one blames.
Any yet, someone claims, someone blames.

Choose the right one, and know that only the right one, is responsible for that one. And that is it no one business, but their business, alone.

Leave the alone to just be alone peacefully. What's the point, boxing with shadows. It's pointless, petty, pedantic, and egotistical.

Trying to smack the image in the mirror is pointless, it won't feel anything.
Even trying to explain something to the image in the mirror is pointless. Even telling someone who doesn't leave the alone to just be alone peacefully, that they are being pointless, petty, pedantic and egotistical
is being pointless, petty, pedantic and egotistical.
The waves are smaller after the storm and the gulls pick over the dead.
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Re: Apology to the forum

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Said no one echoing through eternity.
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