Is wokism declining?

[Immanuel Can]

But I am against the Democrats and the turncoat Repubs, since they are bilking America and telling you all to like it. And they're starting wars, and then profitting of them, and raising taxes and skinning you all, and telling you to like it. So I've got great opinions on all that.

That's a partial list though, isn't it? You also have strong opinions on the validity of the 2020 presidential election; viz:

Somebody's lying, alright. But it isn't me.

And you've claimed that Biden had more votes than a candidate with his limited popular appeal could possibly have gained without extensive fraud. Hence you believe there was fraud; there must have been, notwithstanding the complete absence of any hard evidence.

Oh, there's evidence, and lots of it. But none you'll accept, I'm sure. And one big piece of evidence is Biden himself. Let me ask you this: are you seriously going to try to tell anybody that Biden was the most popular presidential candidate in history? More popular than, say, Obama? Are you going to say so?

But remember: we can see him. We know what he is. So if you lie, we're going to know.

[Gary Childress]

But I am against the Democrats and the turncoat Repubs, since they are bilking America and telling you all to like it. And they're starting wars, and then profitting of them, and raising taxes and skinning you all, and telling you to like it. So I've got great opinions on all that.

That's a partial list though, isn't it? You also have strong opinions on the validity of the 2020 presidential election; viz:

Somebody's lying, alright. But it isn't me.

And you've claimed that Biden had more votes than a candidate with his limited popular appeal could possibly have gained without extensive fraud. Hence you believe there was fraud; there must have been, notwithstanding the complete absence of any hard evidence.

Oh, there's evidence, and lots of it. But none you'll accept, I'm sure. And one big piece of evidence is Biden himself. Let me ask you this: are you seriously going to try to tell anybody that Biden was the most popular presidential candidate in history? More popular than, say, Obama? Are you going to say so?

But remember: we can see him. We know what he is. So if you lie, we're going to know.

Why would anyone think that Biden was the most popular Presidential candidate in history? He's not some messiah. He's definitely a mortal and a very frail and limited one. But I think his team is doing a fair job of keeping things reasonably civil in a world that is coming unglued from the US invasions in the Middle East. The US was wrong to invade Iraq and invading Afghanistan was questionable at best. Now we're paying for it and Europe is paying for our mistakes too. It's not the end of the world. The world can certainly go on and perhaps learn from the mistakes made. But it's going to take time to absorb the blow back. I don't envy the Biden administration. They seem like they are dealing with an extremely difficult situation started by the Bush administration's recklessness. And Bush, like Trump wasn't the pick of the majority of American voters. That's twice that the electoral college has given us the worse of the two possible outcomes.

[Immanuel Can]

Why would anyone think that Biden was the most popular Presidential candidate in history?

Because he got more votes than Obama...by a good margin...and more than any other presidential candidate, back to G. Washington. You think that happened because he was such a wonderful person?

Or do you think somebody fiddled the election?

[Gary Childress]

Why would anyone think that Biden was the most popular Presidential candidate in history?

Because he got more votes than Obama...by a good margin...and more than any other presidential candidate, back to G. Washington. You think that happened because he was such a wonderful person?

Or do you think somebody fiddled the election?

I think a lot of Americans were very pissed and unhappy with Trump and that explains the votes. Trump is a loner. He's got his own agenda and doesn't work well with others. He's an independent businessman, not a public servant. I honestly don't think the election was tampered with. If it was, we would know by now. If there was some conspiracy, then someone involved in the conspiracy would have talked by now.

[Immanuel Can]

Why would anyone think that Biden was the most popular Presidential candidate in history?

Because he got more votes than Obama...by a good margin...and more than any other presidential candidate, back to G. Washington. You think that happened because he was such a wonderful person?

Or do you think somebody fiddled the election?

I think a lot of Americans were very pissed and unhappy with Trump and that explains the votes.

It doesn't explain why he defeated Hillary. And it doesn't explain why he's the front-runner now.

But let's leave him aside, because "But Trump..." is the excuse Dems use for ignoring all of Biden's many faults. Just answer me this: what is it that made Biden so much more irresistible than every other candidate in history?

[Gary Childress]

Because he got more votes than Obama...by a good margin...and more than any other presidential candidate, back to G. Washington. You think that happened because he was such a wonderful person?

Or do you think somebody fiddled the election?

I think a lot of Americans were very pissed and unhappy with Trump and that explains the votes.

It doesn't explain why he defeated Hillary. And it doesn't explain why he's the front-runner now.

But let's leave him aside, because "But Trump..." is the excuse Dems use for ignoring all of Biden's many faults. Just answer me this: what is it that made Biden so much more irresistible than every other candidate in history?

I don't think you're familiar enough with the American political situation. Hillary got more popular votes than Trump. The electoral college got him in. Since you are not an American, maybe this is all moot to you, however, as an American I don't think Trump is best for my country and I have met MANY Americans who feel the same way. I see no evidence of a conspiracy to manipulate voting machines. As far as I can tell, Trump lost the popular vote for the second time and couldn't even get the electoral college deal to work for him again.

[Immanuel Can]

I think a lot of Americans were very pissed and unhappy with Trump and that explains the votes.

It doesn't explain why he defeated Hillary. And it doesn't explain why he's the front-runner now.

But let's leave him aside, because "But Trump..." is the excuse Dems use for ignoring all of Biden's many faults. Just answer me this: what is it that made Biden so much more irresistible than every other candidate in history?

I don't think you're familiar enough with the American political situation. Hillary got more popular votes than Trump.

I'm more familiar than you, apparently. You live in a Republic. If you went by pure numbers of votes, regardless of states, you would immediately find all regions of the country entirely enslaved to whatever NY and Cali decided. They're overwhelmingly populated...and usually Democrat, as well. Your distribution of voting is intended to protect you from tyranny by the majority.

I see no evidence of a conspiracy to manipulate voting machines.

It's hard to see with one's eyes closed. When all your energy is expended in hating an imaginary enemy, it's hard to behave sanely. But the sane facts are fairly simple: when Trump was elected, America did not die. It did not experience tyranny. The world was not destroyed. Gas was cheaper, wages were higher, minorities did better, the border was protected, wars were ended, the Middle East was peaceful by today's standards, Ukraine was not a problem...

But I didn't ask you about Trump. I don't really find him interesting. I asked you what package of virtues commends Biden to you. Are you going to answer, or is the answer too obvious?

[Gary Childress]

It doesn't explain why he defeated Hillary. And it doesn't explain why he's the front-runner now.

But let's leave him aside, because "But Trump..." is the excuse Dems use for ignoring all of Biden's many faults. Just answer me this: what is it that made Biden so much more irresistible than every other candidate in history?

I don't think you're familiar enough with the American political situation. Hillary got more popular votes than Trump.

I'm more familiar than you, apparently. You live in a Republic. If you went by pure numbers of votes, regardless of states, you would immediately find all regions of the country entirely enslaved to whatever NY and Cali decided. They're overwhelmingly populated...and usually Democrat, as well. Your distribution of voting is intended to protect you from tyranny by the majority.

I see no evidence of a conspiracy to manipulate voting machines.

It's hard to see with one's eyes closed. When all your energy is expended in hating an imaginary enemy, it's hard to behave sanely. But the sane facts are fairly simple: when Trump was elected, America did not die. It did not experience tyranny. The world was not destroyed. Gas was cheaper, wages were higher, minorities did better, the border was protected, wars were ended, the Middle East was peaceful by today's standards, Ukraine was not a problem...

But I didn't ask you about Trump. I don't really find him interesting. I asked you what package of virtues commends Biden to you. Are you going to answer, or is the answer too obvious?

My point was that it's not so much Biden's popularity that got him the majority of votes but more Trump's unpopularity. There's no evidence of any serious tampering with the voting count. If there was tampering, then it might have been a little here and there that maybe comes with any vote but I don't think there's reason to believe that there was any organized conspiracy on a scale that would have changed the election.

[Gary Childress]

But I didn't ask you about Trump. I don't really find him interesting. I asked you what package of virtues commends Biden to you. Are you going to answer, or is the answer too obvious?

I just think Biden is a bit more composed, more of a statesman and less of a loose cannon. Other than that, I'd rather see someone like Bernie Sanders in the running. But that choice doesn't appear available at the moment. Am I wrong to think this?

[Immanuel Can]

I don't think you're familiar enough with the American political situation. Hillary got more popular votes than Trump.

I'm more familiar than you, apparently. You live in a Republic. If you went by pure numbers of votes, regardless of states, you would immediately find all regions of the country entirely enslaved to whatever NY and Cali decided. They're overwhelmingly populated...and usually Democrat, as well. Your distribution of voting is intended to protect you from tyranny by the majority.

I see no evidence of a conspiracy to manipulate voting machines.

It's hard to see with one's eyes closed. When all your energy is expended in hating an imaginary enemy, it's hard to behave sanely. But the sane facts are fairly simple: when Trump was elected, America did not die. It did not experience tyranny. The world was not destroyed. Gas was cheaper, wages were higher, minorities did better, the border was protected, wars were ended, the Middle East was peaceful by today's standards, Ukraine was not a problem...

But I didn't ask you about Trump. I don't really find him interesting. I asked you what package of virtues commends Biden to you. Are you going to answer, or is the answer too obvious?

My point was that it's not so much Biden's popularity that got him the majority of votes but more Trump's unpopularity.

Except that's obviously not true. He beat out Hillary, and now he's far more popular than Biden, and growing more so every day, obviously.

So what made Biden so beautiful, that allegedly, all the voters suddenly flocked to him? Was he better than Hillary, who lost to Trump? Was he better than Obama?

[Immanuel Can]

But I didn't ask you about Trump. I don't really find him interesting. I asked you what package of virtues commends Biden to you. Are you going to answer, or is the answer too obvious?

I just think Biden is a bit more composed...

We can see him. He's "composed" of nothing. The man's senile, and has been in severe decline since before the election. He's a shambling wreck.

[Gary Childress]

I'm more familiar than you, apparently. You live in a Republic. If you went by pure numbers of votes, regardless of states, you would immediately find all regions of the country entirely enslaved to whatever NY and Cali decided. They're overwhelmingly populated...and usually Democrat, as well. Your distribution of voting is intended to protect you from tyranny by the majority.


It's hard to see with one's eyes closed. When all your energy is expended in hating an imaginary enemy, it's hard to behave sanely. But the sane facts are fairly simple: when Trump was elected, America did not die. It did not experience tyranny. The world was not destroyed. Gas was cheaper, wages were higher, minorities did better, the border was protected, wars were ended, the Middle East was peaceful by today's standards, Ukraine was not a problem...

But I didn't ask you about Trump. I don't really find him interesting. I asked you what package of virtues commends Biden to you. Are you going to answer, or is the answer too obvious?

My point was that it's not so much Biden's popularity that got him the majority of votes but more Trump's unpopularity.

Except that's obviously not true. He beat out Hillary, and now he's far more popular than Biden, and growing more so every day, obviously.

So what made Biden so beautiful, that allegedly, all the voters suddenly flocked to him? Was he better than Hillary, who lost to Trump? Was he better than Obama?

Whatever, dude. Enjoy Canada.

[Gary Childress]

But I didn't ask you about Trump. I don't really find him interesting. I asked you what package of virtues commends Biden to you. Are you going to answer, or is the answer too obvious?

I just think Biden is a bit more composed...

We can see him. He's "composed" of nothing. The man's senile, and has been in severe decline since before the election. He's a shambling wreck.

He doesn't make inflammatory statements on Twitter like "grab them by the pussy" when women are protesting sexism or "cops need to give criminals an extra beating" while people are protesting police brutality.

[Immanuel Can]

So what made Biden so beautiful, that allegedly, all the voters suddenly flocked to him? Was he better than Hillary, who lost to Trump? Was he better than Obama?

Whatever, dude.

So...nothing. Biden's got no charms, no advantages as a candidate, no real achievements, has sacked the economy, completely messed up Afghanistan, got you into war in Ukraine, threw your border open to drug traffickers, gangbangers and pimps, drained the oil supply, embarassed your country on the international stage, mumbled his speeches, stumbled over his bike and up and down stairs, wandered offstage bewildered, made racist statements...and even you can't think of why he's supposed to be more popular than Obama?

Gee. Surprising.

[Immanuel Can]

I just think Biden is a bit more composed...

We can see him. He's "composed" of nothing. The man's senile, and has been in severe decline since before the election. He's a shambling wreck.

He doesn't make inflammatory statements on Twitter like "grab them by the pussy"

My understanding is that that allegation wasn't on Twitter, but in private conversation. As crude as it is, it's less crude than digitally raping women. https://www.vox.com/2020/5/7/21248713/t ... accusation.

"cops need to give criminals an extra beating" while people are protesting police brutality.

I'm unfamiliar with that incident. Got a citation? Mind you, with what most of the protesters have been doing, the comment wouldn't necessarily be out of line: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQCxRbfLIWg&rco=1