Will God Save Us from Ourselves?

[ThinkOfOne]

Presumably you are referring to the "unlike your Christ" quote. From what I gather that is speaking of how Jesus said people are to live.

Are you following the healing and miracle Jesus of the gospel of John?
There's a distinction that need to be made between the words attributed to Jesus by the NT writers and the mythology that they wrapped around them.

Or are you following the sadistic/ hell-mongering/ testicle-removing Jesus of the gospel of Matthew?
You seem to have failed to take into account that Jesus repeatedly pointed out the fact that He spoke using figurative language (parables).

So your adamant that God, in the flesh, told his followers to remove their testicles?

I'll remain skeptical of that book, thank you.

So your adamant that God, in the flesh, told his followers to remove their testicles?

Adamant? I've never even said anything of the kind. What are you on about?

What's more, it's as if you STILL continue to fail to make the distinction between the words attributed to Jesus and the mythology wrapped around them AND continue to fail to take into account that Jesus used figurative language. Are you not familiar with the use of figurative language such as metaphor?

[Systematic]

So your adamant that God, in the flesh, told his followers to remove their testicles?

Adamant? I've never even said anything of the kind. What are you on about?

What's more, it's as if you STILL continue to fail to make the distinction between the words attributed to Jesus and the mythology wrapped around them AND continue to fail to take into account that Jesus used figurative language. Are you not familiar with the use of figurative language such as metaphor?

So, we are to figuratively remove our testicles? That doesn't sound good either.

Here's your wake-up call, Abraham. Don't kill Isaac! God will provide.

[attofishpi]

Problems with Christianity; it over emphasizes virtues like forgiveness, patience, sympathy and compassion, and in doing so, inadvertently supports a general decline in pathos by being too tolerant, too soft, to passive toward failures and mistakes. It allows people to go to shit becuz it doesn't negatively reinforce bad behavior and habits. It's like a sheltering system for everything that would perish on its own if not for being protected by the system. Even subtly encourages surrendering to failure by constantly defacing the body and the fallen, imperfect material world we exist in. Its wretchedness. It constantly reminds u that you're a sinner. Finally u begin to use this indictment as an excuse to be a slob rather than an official warning against becoming one. This irony is not wasted on our resident christians. IC, how many push-ups can u do right now if u dropped and did some this very instant?

Well.

That is probably the most intelligent post I have seen form from striking the keys upon your keyboard.

Well done.

So.

U do understand then where the West - morals based upon your quote - Christianity ...is now faulting - indeed that CHRISTIANITY ultimately formed the WOKE!!

[attofishpi]

However, I still fear that maybe Christ wasn't God

Does he need to have been God? What difference does it even make? He's not around any longer anyway. He died already. We will get to know the true story on the Last Day. So, patience is a virtue.

"He died already" LMAO

"He's not around any longer" LMAO

"We will get to know the true story on the Last Day." LMAO

[promethean75]

Christianity ...is now faulting - indeed that CHRISTIANITY ultimately formed the WOKE!"

Christianity has always been weaponized by repressed/oppressed people. It is how the weak strike fear and indecision in the strong and avenge themselves.

[Dubious]

Why should IT?

[Walker]

Why should IT?

The God of Information Technology, IT, is not the salvation when IT is used for nefarious purposes.



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If the folks in Sodom and Gomorrah had asked for help, and really meant it in their hearts, their slates probably would not have been wiped clean to allow room for other than their corruption, however, the lesson is that they did not ask for help with more than insincere words, and not even with insincere words. As a result, the natural process of cause and effect prevailed.

In other words, when corruption reaches the tipping point, then elemental purification naturally occurs, even if the element is fire.

[promethean75]

"God sends two angels to destroy Sodom."

"The angels tell Lot "...the outcry against its people has become great before the Lord, and the Lord has sent us to destroy it"

Aliens, bro. Those angels were aliens.

Now the same shit that happened in Sodom began again a century ago when Lenin died and the erf took a wrong turn for the worst. When god saw the revolution fail he was like 'well look at that... the dumb sonsabitches fucked everything up again', and then, cursing the erf, he quarantined it (he's got other planets goin so he doesn't need the erf really). But instead of having it destroyed immediately thereafter by his alien angels, he turned it into a training camp for homo destructus (or the Z13 prototype). Homo destructus is essentially designed by all the natural effects of our corruption, greed, deceit, exploitation, etc. They are our psychopaths, serial killers, anarchists and other agents of chaos. Our Jokers, in other words, and this world continues to exist solely for their entertainment.

Bro if u knew what was really goin on you'd shit in your trousers.

[Harbal]

IC, how many push-ups can u do right now if u dropped and did some this very instant?

Since you ask, quite a few. Truth be told, I also hunt and fish a lot,

Ah, so a man who gets pleasure from killing, then?

[Immanuel Can]

IC, how many push-ups can u do right now if u dropped and did some this very instant?

Since you ask, quite a few. Truth be told, I also hunt and fish a lot,

Ah, so a man who gets pleasure from killing, then?

A man who gets pleasure from dinner. And unless you're a total vegan who wears no leather and never consumes animal products of any kind, the only difference between you and me is that you prefer not to know what happens to your food before you get it. I, at least, face the moral realities of my choices, and understand what they mean.

So I'll take the win on that.

[Harbal]

Since you ask, quite a few. Truth be told, I also hunt and fish a lot,

Ah, so a man who gets pleasure from killing, then?

A man who gets pleasure from dinner. And unless you're a total vegan who wears no leather and never consumes animal products of any kind, the only difference between you and me is that you prefer not to know what happens to your food before you get it. I, at least, face the moral realities of my choices, and understand what they mean.

So I'll take the win on that.

just because I like doing it.

[Immanuel Can]

just because I like doing it.

Selective quotations, out of all context, seem to be your thing...but yes, I do enjoy hunting. Any real man does.

[Harbal]

just because I like doing it.

Selective quotations, out of all context, seem to be your thing...

In what way out of context?

I also hunt and fish a lot, ride motorcycles, and do a bunch of the other cliche man-stuff, just because I like doing it.

If you are not saying you hunt things because you like doing it, what on earth are you saying?

.but yes, I do enjoy hunting. Any real man does.

Yes, shooting defenceless animals is a real test of manliness, no doubt.

[Dubious]

just because I like doing it.

Selective quotations, out of all context, seem to be your thing...but yes, I do enjoy hunting. Any real man does.

...so if someone prefers to hunt with a camera instead of a gun, he's not a real man??? Right! A real man likes to hunt as long as he's in no danger of damage to himself in the process.

[Harbal]

Selective quotations, out of all context, seem to be your thing...but yes, I do enjoy hunting. Any real man does.

...so if someone prefers to hunt with a camera instead of a gun, he's no a real man???

He might be a real man, but not a real hunter. I would describe him more as a photographer.