Is wokism declining?

[Immanuel Can]

There it is!

Yes it is true that Joe Biden was not the most popular presidential candidate in history. But that isn’t evidence that Trump’s big lie isn’t a lie but instead must be true.

Well, the Dems say there's no denying the statistics that the Dems say support the validity of the election. And there's no denying that those same statistics make out that Biden's the most popular presidential candidate in history. But I think that most people will realize that Obama, Clinton, and several other presidential candidates of the past have been much more popular than the doddering, foggy incumbent ever was.

That’s your whole case, isn’t it Manny?

Not even close, actually. But it certainly is a paradox the Dem-supporters cannot rationally deny. Something was deceptive about that election; their own statistics make it glaringly obvious. And that's but one thing: there are lots more dodgy moments in that election, for sure. How about the suppression of the Biden laptop, which is now universally accepted, even by the Dem press, as being legit? Either they lied then, or they're lying now: but neither of us can rationally doubt they've lied.

The principle is actually simple: if somebody does one thing one day, and does the exact reverse the next, then they manifest that either before or after, they made a mistake / lied. And it's not even a partisan principle: it applies equally to all.

But can I get you to admit that? Plausibly not. However, since you cannot help but see it, and I see it, here we are -- two adults having a conversation in which both know what's true, but one is pretending not to know, and the other is attempting to convince somebody who already knows what the truth is. How much more of that is sane...well, I doubt much more will prove fruitful. Better we should speak truth to each other than maintain the sham of disbelieving the evidence neither of us can actually disbelieve.

[mickthinks]

And there's no denying that those same statistics make out that Biden's the most popular presidential candidate in history.

What are you talking about? Are you really as innumerate as this makes you appear?

Let me spell it out for you: Biden was up against one of the most despised presidential candidates in history. Trump’s candidacy motivates millions of US citizens to turn out and vote against him on top of the modest following that Biden himself commands.

This really shouldn’t need explaining.

[PeteOlcott]

It takes no genius at all to know that Joe Biden was never the most popular presidential candidate in history...more popular even than Obama and Clinton. That didn't happen. But the Dems 'statistics' assure us that it did.

Somebody's lying, alright. But it isn't me.

The idea behind denigrating Wokism is a con job

No, Wokism is a con job. It's a Neo-Marxist race cult. It's not "empathetic." It's a direct derivative of the ideology that killed 140 million people in the last century alone. It teaches that only its followers are "the people," and that enemies are horrible, callous sub-humans that it is virtuous to hate. It preaches racism, a doctrine of oppression, and perpetual, violent revolution. Just look at the places where it has been enacted already: is any one of them a better place now than it was before? Are people more empathetic, mutually-supportive and caring wherever Cultural Marxism is preached and practiced? Or is there violence, hateful rhetoric, dirt, crime, destruction and failure where Neo-Marxism reigns?

Their record speaks for itself.

Incorrect opinions are OK. Intentionally lying against the
verified facts can get you condemned to Hell.

[Immanuel Can]

The idea behind denigrating Wokism is a con job

No, Wokism is a con job. It's a Neo-Marxist race cult. It's not "empathetic." It's a direct derivative of the ideology that killed 140 million people in the last century alone. It teaches that only its followers are "the people," and that enemies are horrible, callous sub-humans that it is virtuous to hate. It preaches racism, a doctrine of oppression, and perpetual, violent revolution. Just look at the places where it has been enacted already: is any one of them a better place now than it was before? Are people more empathetic, mutually-supportive and caring wherever Cultural Marxism is preached and practiced? Or is there violence, hateful rhetoric, dirt, crime, destruction and failure where Neo-Marxism reigns?

Their record speaks for itself.

Incorrect opinions are OK.

No, they aren't. Not when we could, should and can know better. False opinions, advanced as truth, may lead to very malign consequences. We all have a personal responsibility to do our best to find the truth, and to speak it as often and as plainly as possible. Wokies have a different imperative: to advance the Neo-Marxist agenda. That does not require truth. In fact, it absolutely requires deception, bullying, silencing, slandering and lies.

So if that makes them sons of the Devil, then all I can say to that is "Thou hast said it."

[PeteOlcott]

No, Wokism is a con job. It's a Neo-Marxist race cult. It's not "empathetic." It's a direct derivative of the ideology that killed 140 million people in the last century alone. It teaches that only its followers are "the people," and that enemies are horrible, callous sub-humans that it is virtuous to hate. It preaches racism, a doctrine of oppression, and perpetual, violent revolution. Just look at the places where it has been enacted already: is any one of them a better place now than it was before? Are people more empathetic, mutually-supportive and caring wherever Cultural Marxism is preached and practiced? Or is there violence, hateful rhetoric, dirt, crime, destruction and failure where Neo-Marxism reigns?

Their record speaks for itself.

Incorrect opinions are OK.

No, they aren't. Not when we could, should and can know better. False opinions, advanced as truth, may lead to very malign consequences. We all have a personal responsibility to do our best to find the truth, and to speak it as often and as plainly as possible. Wokies have a different imperative: to advance the Neo-Marxist agenda. That does not require truth. In fact, it absolutely requires deception, bullying, silencing, slandering and lies.

So if that makes them sons of the Devil, then all I can say to that is "Thou hast said it."

When you tell lies about election fraud this could literally send you to actual Hell.

[Immanuel Can]

When you tell lies about election fraud this could literally send you to actual Hell.

Do you really want to argue that Biden was more popular than Obama and Clinton? That he was the single most popular candidate in history? Unless you believe that is true, you'd have to be one of those people who think there's something odd about the election results the Dems want us to believe. And do you deny what both the mass media and even the Dems now admit and the experts have conclusively demonstrated? Namely, that the laptop suppressed before the election was Hunter Biden's? It seems everybody's ready to concede the point...except you. And will you argue now that Biden is not senile, and was falling apart mentally even before the election? There's lots more evidence even than all that...but that is surely enough in itself.

I think you know what the truth is. It just doesn't suit the Woke agenda ever to admit it. You won't "shame" me by appealing to a moral standard in which you, yourself do not even believe, you know, especially since I am telling the confirmed truth. That just won't work.

[PeteOlcott]

When you tell lies about election fraud this could literally send you to actual Hell.

Do you really want to argue that Biden was more popular than Obama and Clinton? That he was the single most popular candidate in history? Unless you believe that is true, you'd have to be one of those people who think there's something odd about the election results the Dems want us to believe. And do you deny what both the mass media and even the Dems now admit and the experts have conclusively demonstrated? Namely, that the laptop suppressed before the election was Hunter Biden's? It seems everybody's ready to concede the point...except you. And will you argue now that Biden is not senile, and was falling apart mentally even before the election? There's lots more evidence even than all that...but that is surely enough in itself.

I think you know what the truth is. It just doesn't suit the Woke agenda ever to admit it. You won't "shame" me by appealing to a moral standard in which you, yourself do not even believe, you know, especially since I am telling the confirmed truth. That just won't work.

Every Genius knows this is true

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[Immanuel Can]

When you tell lies about election fraud this could literally send you to actual Hell.

Do you really want to argue that Biden was more popular than Obama and Clinton? That he was the single most popular candidate in history? Unless you believe that is true, you'd have to be one of those people who think there's something odd about the election results the Dems want us to believe. And do you deny what both the mass media and even the Dems now admit and the experts have conclusively demonstrated? Namely, that the laptop suppressed before the election was Hunter Biden's? It seems everybody's ready to concede the point...except you. And will you argue now that Biden is not senile, and was falling apart mentally even before the election? There's lots more evidence even than all that...but that is surely enough in itself.

I think you know what the truth is. It just doesn't suit the Woke agenda ever to admit it. You won't "shame" me by appealing to a moral standard in which you, yourself do not even believe, you know, especially since I am telling the confirmed truth. That just won't work.

Every Genius knows this is true

You won't flatter or bully me, either. And the size of your font is utterly irrelevant to truth.

Have you got any sensible responses, or is this the best you've got?

[PeteOlcott]

Every Genius knows this is true

You won't flatter or bully me, either. And the size of your font is utterly irrelevant to truth.

Have you got any sensible responses, or is this the best you've got?

50% of the population already agrees.
Another respondent on this group helped me to debug those words
by continuing to disagree until I got the words just right.

[Immanuel Can]

Every Genius knows this is true

You won't flatter or bully me, either. And the size of your font is utterly irrelevant to truth.

Have you got any sensible responses, or is this the best you've got?

50% of the population already agrees.

What a load of twaddle. You really think I believe that? And if I did, do you think it would impress me? Truth isn't an opinion poll, either way.

[mickthinks]

What a load of twaddle. You really think I believe that?

You're in denial, dude: Why do millions of Americans believe the 2020 presidential election was ‘stolen’?

This lie ... is fuelled by national organisations that are funded by some of the country’s wealthiest conservatives ... the Election Integrity Project California, FreedomWorks, or the Honest Elections Project, whose names belie their intentions. Among these groups, the Federalist Society ... has led the attack against the Voting Rights Act (a 1965 law prohibiting racial discrimination in voting). The Heritage Foundation ... has used the spectre of electoral fraud as a pretext for removing voters from voting lists. One of its founders, Paul Weyrich, declared in 1980:

“I don’t want everybody to vote. Elections are not won by a majority of people, they never have been from the beginning of our country and they are not now. As a matter of fact, our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down.”

Add to this an overt strategy of media disinformation used by Trump and his allies, summarised by Steve Bannon, the former leader of Breitbart News and former advisor to Donald Trump: “Flood the zone with shit”. The point is simply to overwhelm the press and the public with so much false information and disinformation that distinguishing truth from lies becomes too challenging, if not impossible.

[Immanuel Can]

What a load of twaddle. You really think I believe that?

You're in denial, dude: [url=https://theconversation.com/why-do-mill ... ump-224016]

This has nothing to do with Wokism. And I'm not even in that country, and don't vote. So you're just massively wrong again.

[mickthinks]

This has nothing to do with Wokism.
Then your mistake was to engage with Peter Olcott on the issue as you did here:

Every genius knows there is no evidence of election fraud.

It takes no genius at all to know that Joe Biden was never the most popular presidential candidate in history...more popular even than Obama and Clinton. That didn't happen. But the Dems 'statistics' assure us that it did.

Somebody's lying, alright. But it isn't me.

And I'm not even in that country, and don't vote.
Are you implying you don't know enough about US politics to have expressed any opinion on the popularity of Biden, the result of the 2020 election, and the big MAGA lie?

So you're just massively wrong again.
lol

[Immanuel Can]

This has nothing to do with Wokism.
Then your mistake was to engage with Peter Olcott on the issue as you did here:

Every genius knows there is no evidence of election fraud.

It takes no genius at all to know that Joe Biden was never the most popular presidential candidate in history...more popular even than Obama and Clinton. That didn't happen. But the Dems 'statistics' assure us that it did.

Somebody's lying, alright. But it isn't me.

And I'm not even in that country, and don't vote.
Are you implying you don't know enough about US politics to have expressed any opinion on the popularity of Biden, the result of the 2020 election...blah?

Of course not. I'm telling you I have a ringside seat to all that, and have watched it very carefully. I may not be American, but I know that what happens there matters immensely to the larger world; so I pay attention. And I'm not the pawn of your press, and am not a Republican. But I am against the Democrats and the turncoat Repubs, since they are bilking America and telling you all to like it. And they're starting wars, and then profitting of them, and raising taxes and skinning you all, and telling you to like it. So I've got great opinions on all that.

[mickthinks]

But I am against the Democrats and the turncoat Repubs, since they are bilking America and telling you all to like it. And they're starting wars, and then profitting of them, and raising taxes and skinning you all, and telling you to like it. So I've got great opinions on all that.

That's a partial list though, isn't it? You also have strong opinions on the validity of the 2020 presidential election; viz:

Somebody's lying, alright. But it isn't me.

And you've claimed that Biden had more votes than a candidate with his limited popular appeal could possibly have gained without extensive fraud. Hence you believe there was fraud; there must have been, notwithstanding the complete absence of any hard evidence.