Walker wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2024 8:12 am
Age wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 1:02 am
So, I suggest you 'now' do the courtesy of explaining how "gary childress' and everyone else can reconcile 'their own death', or just admit that you 'do not actually know'.
I'll offer a response to the invitation.
The beginning of the how pow-wow can be now, but the end belongs to Age.
Begin with the known, with what you can imagine, and with what you can’t imagine.
For example:
You know you exist,
you and everyone can imagine lots of things,
and you and everyone else cannot imagine non-existence.
But, it is extremely simple and extremely easy to imagine 'non-existence'. Well it is for me, anyway.
Walker wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2024 8:12 am
Therefore logically, after death, existence either continues as a form undetected with properties unknown for sure, but testified to within various traditions … or else unimaginable non-existence. This is really the only legitimate fence-sitting acceptable from humble folks.
What?
To me,
The visible physical body just continually changes in shape and form, exactly like it always has. And, just like how matter is always interacting with itself, continually changing in shape, and form, always, and in all ways.
As for the invisible 'thoughts', and the invisible 'emotions',within the visible body, no new ones arise.
Walker wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2024 8:12 am
The reconciliation then boils down to:
Either Life is all there is, or not.
Life is certainly all you can ever know, Age.
But, I can also 'know' that there is no such thing as 'death'. There is only change, in this one and Only Life.
So, as you say and claim here, 'Life' may well be, 'All-there-is', as well as therefore may certainly be all you can ever 'know', "walker".
Walker wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2024 8:12 amWhat's your take on the reconciliation, given the parameters as you define them, and lack of unlimited information?
I would not use the word 'reconcile' here. And, instead I just say that after one learns and realizes that there is no actual 'death', as some perceive 'death' to be, and that the True Self, within every one, lives eternally HERE-NOW, in the One and only Universe, and Life, and the 'the person' that all of 'you' are also, although had 'a beginning' also do not 'end' as such, as all of 'you' will always have an ever-lasting effect, in this One Life, in one way or another. Either through what the actual physical body created, including any and all off-spring, if any, as well as the 'thoughts' within have an ever-lasting effect as 'they' continue getting past on down, generation after generation.
Which is way it is so very important to only do what is, actually Right, and good, in Life.
Either 'we' do Right, only, which in turn is continually creating and making a much 'better world', and a 'heaven' (like existence) for all 'future generation', or if we do Wrong, then this obviously makes 'this world' not just worse, and 'hell' like, for 'us' and our children, but also for all the future generations, which follow. That is; until, of course, one generation decides to change, for the better only, and then starts actually doing only what is Right, in Life, which then begins the transition to and starts creating and making the much 'better world' for everyone, which is just what absolutely every one once Truly wanted and desired, anyway.