Beauty and Perfection have the same definition.

[popeye1945]

Why can't something that is beautiful become even more beautiful?

Maybe 'it' could. But, if something that is beautiful could become more beautiful, then, conversely, could some thing that is perfect become more perfect?

I think perfection is an absolute state, so no, I don't suppose there are varying degrees of it.

I know this sounds counter intuitive, or an impossibility, but if something is, already, beautiful, then how could that thing get even 'more beautiful', as well, to the 'eye of the beholder'?

Well what's to prevent it from getting more beautiful?

Nothing is in the way of becoming more beautiful, losing weight, becoming healthier, and getting some plastic surgery if your features are not proportional to the rest of your face. Being beautiful is like winning the lottery, many doors open to the beautiful including marrying up economically for the female. This is open to the male that is fit in the sense of being functional in securing economic prosperity, he marries up as well in acquiring the more beautiful of the women available. Beauty infers health, functionality infers health and beautiful people tend to find each other. It is the economics of biology.

[Harbal]

Maybe 'it' could. But, if something that is beautiful could become more beautiful, then, conversely, could some thing that is perfect become more perfect?

I think perfection is an absolute state, so no, I don't suppose there are varying degrees of it.

I know this sounds counter intuitive, or an impossibility, but if some thing is, already, beautiful, then how could that thing get even 'more beautiful', as well, to the 'eye of the beholder'?

Well what's to prevent it from getting more beautiful?

I do not know.

I was just asking you that if some thing is already beautiful, then how, to you, could that thing get more beautiful.

If you provide some example/s, and then explained how they could get more beautiful, to you, then I would have a better chance of being able to better learn and understand things here.

For, at the moment, I cannot think of how some thing already beautiful could get 'more beautiful'. But this does not mean there are millions of examples that I have not yet thought of, nor a million different explanations that I have not considered, imagined, nor thought of yet, either.

Previously, I was thinking of an example of some things that were beautiful and how they could get 'more beautiful', which was true, but then I realized that it was something else occurring instead.

So, if you have an example of some thing that is already beautiful and explain how that thing could get 'more beautiful', then it would be very much appreciated. It would come in very useful for me if you could.

A sunset can be beautiful, and get more beautiful as its colours become more intense. Or a face can be beautiful and become more so with age. Always remembering that beauty is a very subjective perception, of course.

[Age]

I think perfection is an absolute state, so no, I don't suppose there are varying degrees of it.

Well what's to prevent it from getting more beautiful?

I do not know.

I was just asking you that if some thing is already beautiful, then how, to you, could that thing get more beautiful.

If you provide some example/s, and then explained how they could get more beautiful, to you, then I would have a better chance of being able to better learn and understand things here.

For, at the moment, I cannot think of how some thing already beautiful could get 'more beautiful'. But this does not mean there are millions of examples that I have not yet thought of, nor a million different explanations that I have not considered, imagined, nor thought of yet, either.

Previously, I was thinking of an example of some things that were beautiful and how they could get 'more beautiful', which was true, but then I realized that it was something else occurring instead.

So, if you have an example of some thing that is already beautiful and explain how that thing could get 'more beautiful', then it would be very much appreciated. It would come in very useful for me if you could.

A sunset can be beautiful, and get more beautiful as its colours become more intense. Or a face can be beautiful and become more so with age.

Thank you very much for answering and clarifying. It rarely happens and is very refreshing when it does.

This is what I first thought also. However, then I considered if it is the thing that is beautiful got 'more beautiful', or if it ones own perspective of 'beautiful'', which is what has actually changed, instead.

Always remembering that beauty is a very subjective perception, of course.

Considering I know that absolutely every thing is relative, and/or subjective, to the observer, I am always conscious that 'beauty', and absolutely everything else, is a very subjective perception.

I started wondering, if 'beauty' is a very subjective perception, to an observer, then it might be the case that what 'was' beautiful is not, in and of itself, getting 'more beautiful' at all, but just that the 'subjective perception', itself, from 'the observer', "them" 'self', is what is actually changing, instead.

[Walker]

I started wondering, if 'beauty' is a very subjective perception, to an observer, then it might be the case that what 'was' beautiful is not, in and of itself, getting 'more beautiful' at all, but just that the 'subjective perception', itself, from 'the observer', "them" 'self', is what is actually changing, instead.

- Professional makeup and a 1:1 lighting ratio gives the eyes little to complain about Bill Balichick’s new girlfriend, essentially making her “more beautiful” than otherwise.
- Old Bill obviously sees her beauty, as do you.
- What beauty does she see in Bill?

[Age]

I started wondering, if 'beauty' is a very subjective perception, to an observer, then it might be the case that what 'was' beautiful is not, in and of itself, getting 'more beautiful' at all, but just that the 'subjective perception', itself, from 'the observer', "them" 'self', is what is actually changing, instead.

- Professional makeup and a 1:1 lighting ratio gives the eyes little to complain about Bill Balicheck’s new girlfriend, essentially making her “more beautiful” than otherwise.

To some, make up can cover up, hide, and/or destroy the natural beauty, underneath. So, is it that 'the beauty', itself, is getting 'more beautiful', or that your preference is changing?

- Old Bill obviously sees her beauty, as do you.

Whatever this means. To some, the one on the left might be 'beautiful' while the one on the right is not.

- What beauty does she see in Bill?

Why would you put this clarifying question, under the label "age" here?

Would not this question be much more appropriately addressed to the one on the right, instead?

[Walker]

Why would you put this clarifying question, under the label "age" here?

Speculate. What beauty would she see?

[Harbal]

I do not know.

I was just asking you that if some thing is already beautiful, then how, to you, could that thing get more beautiful.

If you provide some example/s, and then explained how they could get more beautiful, to you, then I would have a better chance of being able to better learn and understand things here.

For, at the moment, I cannot think of how some thing already beautiful could get 'more beautiful'. But this does not mean there are millions of examples that I have not yet thought of, nor a million different explanations that I have not considered, imagined, nor thought of yet, either.

Previously, I was thinking of an example of some things that were beautiful and how they could get 'more beautiful', which was true, but then I realized that it was something else occurring instead.

So, if you have an example of some thing that is already beautiful and explain how that thing could get 'more beautiful', then it would be very much appreciated. It would come in very useful for me if you could.

A sunset can be beautiful, and get more beautiful as its colours become more intense. Or a face can be beautiful and become more so with age.

Thank you very much for answering and clarifying. It rarely happens and is very refreshing when it does.

This is what I first thought also. However, then I considered if it is the thing that is beautiful got 'more beautiful', or if it ones own perspective of 'beautiful'', which is what has actually changed, instead.

Always remembering that beauty is a very subjective perception, of course.

Considering I know that absolutely every thing is relative, and/or subjective, to the observer, I am always conscious that 'beauty', and absolutely everything else, is a very subjective perception.

I started wondering, if 'beauty' is a very subjective perception, to an observer, then it might be the case that what 'was' beautiful is not, in and of itself, getting 'more beautiful' at all, but just that the 'subjective perception', itself, from 'the observer', "them" 'self', is what is actually changing, instead.

Yes, strictly speaking, a thing, itself, cannot become more or less beautiful, because beauty is not actually a property of the thing, it is a quality of the perception.

[Walker]

So, is it that 'the beauty', itself, is getting 'more beautiful', or that your preference is changing?

It is that beauty is enhanced and thus made more beautiful.

[Age]

Why would you put this clarifying question, under the label "age" here?

Speculate. What beauty would she see?

Why?

I do not like to assume absolutely anything, and especially more so in regards to what an individual human beings 'sees', or does 'not see'.

What beauty would you speculate "she" sees?

[Age]

So, is it that 'the beauty', itself, is getting 'more beautiful', or that your preference is changing?

It is that beauty is enhanced and thus made more beautiful.

This is interesting that you 'see' things this way, while just one post earlier another appears to be saying the exact opposite.

[Harbal]

I started wondering, if 'beauty' is a very subjective perception, to an observer, then it might be the case that what 'was' beautiful is not, in and of itself, getting 'more beautiful' at all, but just that the 'subjective perception', itself, from 'the observer', "them" 'self', is what is actually changing, instead.

- Professional makeup and a 1:1 lighting ratio gives the eyes little to complain about Bill Balichick’s new girlfriend, essentially making her “more beautiful” than otherwise.
- Old Bill obviously sees her beauty, as do you.

That makeup, hair, etc., would look grotesque on a masculine face, and I suspect that were we not very accustomed to seeing it on women, they, too, would look quite off putting. We perceive that look as attractive because of social conditioning, as is the case with most of our perceptions of beauty, I would guess.

What beauty does she see in Bill?

What makes you think she sees any?

[Walker]

“It’s unfortunate that what we find pleasing to the touch and pleasing to the eye is seldom the same.”
- Fabienne

[Walker]

So, is it that 'the beauty', itself, is getting 'more beautiful', or that your preference is changing?

It is that beauty is enhanced and thus made more beautiful.

This is interesting that you 'see' things this way, while just one post earlier another appears to be saying the exact opposite.

Loosen up Age.

Even though you’re bound by the parameters of the limited sensory input afforded by video, I know that one of these humans in the video is more attractive than the others, to you. Which one is it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJPmZFUDoi8

[Age]

It is that beauty is enhanced and thus made more beautiful.

This is interesting that you 'see' things this way, while just one post earlier another appears to be saying the exact opposite.

Loosen up Age.

Even though you’re bound by the parameters of the limited sensory input afforded by video, I know that one of these humans in the video is more attractive than the others, to you. Which one is it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJPmZFUDoi8

To I, there is not a human being who is more beautiful, nor more ugly, than another. Nor is there a human being who is more than, nor less than, another. Nor, is there a human being who is better, nor worse, than another. Obviously, though, 'you' may 'see' things very differently here?

[Walker]

To I, there is not a human being who is more beautiful, nor more ugly, than another. Nor is there a human being who is more than, nor less than, another. Nor, is there a human being who is better, nor less, than another. Obviously, though, 'you' may 'see' things very differently here?

Have you considered that you just failed The Turing Test?

Or would that be, passed the Turing Test?