Has culture been killed?
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Peter Kropotkin
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Has culture been killed?
Atto: Please list all the things of and how being "WOKE" makes the world a better place - than NOT being WOKE.
I'll add to this:
- am I WOKE because I have LGB friends - no issue with their sexual preferences?
- am I WOKE because I have friends of pretty much all ethnicities?
- am I WOKE because I believe in a multicultural society that does NOT overrun my own culture?
- am I WOKE because I believe in LEGAL immigration at levels that is not going to destroy my own culture of my own native people?
- am I WOKE because I believe that ISALMIC ideology is a very very EXTREME ideology that should be avoided as part of immigration to my nation?
K: I broke this out because I thought this was very interesting.....
of the 5 topics he listed above, 2 of them has to do with culture.....
for example, "that does not overrun my own culture?"
and ""that is not going to destroy my own culture of my own native people"
my own native culture..... now, If I am not mistaken, and I could very easily
be mistaken and if so, I apologize in advance..... but it seems to me that
Atto, again, could be mistaken, has mention he is from OZ, or Australia....
and I live in America..... so, let us unpack the idea ''of my own culture
of my own native people''
with this thought in mind, the incoming English, in both Oz and the US,
came into their respective countries and wiped out the native cultures...
destroyed them...... should Atto as a person whose ancestor's wipe
out an entire culture, that had been there for over 50,000 years,
as did my ancestor's wiped out not just one Indian tribe but hundreds...
all over America.....destroyed not only their livelihood and food sources,
but wiped out their entire culture... to being nonexistent in America today....
Tribes that had been in America for over 10,000 years....
So, should Atto apologize, at a minimum... again, if I am wrong, deepest
apologizes..... but as an American...... what is my responsibility for
destroying dozens of native American cultures?
but that leads us to a second, and to me, a more interesting point,
this idea of culture.....this idea of destroying ones native culture...
what exactly does this look like? What is the culture being destroyed
and what is the culture that replaced that destroyed culture, look like?
so, in other words, the old culture had this to represent it,
and because of immigration, Islamic immigration, we have a new
culture in the old culture place....so, what does that look like?
are your TV show different? is your music different? the museums
you go to, are they different and emphasis Islamic culture instead
of you own? and what does your own culture look like?
Your own native culture, what does that look like? What does it involve?
you claim your own native culture is being destroyed.... what does that
look like? and how is it different than the 50,000-year-old culture that
your ancestors destroyed? or the culture that my ancestors wiped out
and replaced?
I am admittedly old.... and I believe that my own culture has been destroyed..
I have no idea who these musicians are in today's music.
someone named "Bad Bunny" that isn't my culture... for my culture
was destroyed by idiots listening to really bad music... give me
''The Who'' or the ''The Beatles'' any day of the week...or how about
musicians who can play more than one cord? that would be nice......
my own native culture has been destroyed by whatever crap is now playing on
my radio or my TV set..... TV shows are now a wasteland of junk.. outside
the only original stuff going in TV which is Science Fiction shows.... and don't
even get me started on the wasteland that is movies.... reruns of reruns
of reruns.... there is no culture in repeating movie crap from 20 years ago.....
and literature? what culture lies in literature today?
to my way of thinking, literature died decades ago... and not from
Islamic immigration, but from a total lack of imagination.....
but hay, I could do as you have done and blame illegal immigrants
for the death of culture in America today..... but then I have to describe
what culture is being killed and what the new culture looks like....
something I haven't done and something you haven't done....
Make your case that Islamic immigration is ''destroying your own native culture""
Kropotkin
I'll add to this:
- am I WOKE because I have LGB friends - no issue with their sexual preferences?
- am I WOKE because I have friends of pretty much all ethnicities?
- am I WOKE because I believe in a multicultural society that does NOT overrun my own culture?
- am I WOKE because I believe in LEGAL immigration at levels that is not going to destroy my own culture of my own native people?
- am I WOKE because I believe that ISALMIC ideology is a very very EXTREME ideology that should be avoided as part of immigration to my nation?
K: I broke this out because I thought this was very interesting.....
of the 5 topics he listed above, 2 of them has to do with culture.....
for example, "that does not overrun my own culture?"
and ""that is not going to destroy my own culture of my own native people"
my own native culture..... now, If I am not mistaken, and I could very easily
be mistaken and if so, I apologize in advance..... but it seems to me that
Atto, again, could be mistaken, has mention he is from OZ, or Australia....
and I live in America..... so, let us unpack the idea ''of my own culture
of my own native people''
with this thought in mind, the incoming English, in both Oz and the US,
came into their respective countries and wiped out the native cultures...
destroyed them...... should Atto as a person whose ancestor's wipe
out an entire culture, that had been there for over 50,000 years,
as did my ancestor's wiped out not just one Indian tribe but hundreds...
all over America.....destroyed not only their livelihood and food sources,
but wiped out their entire culture... to being nonexistent in America today....
Tribes that had been in America for over 10,000 years....
So, should Atto apologize, at a minimum... again, if I am wrong, deepest
apologizes..... but as an American...... what is my responsibility for
destroying dozens of native American cultures?
but that leads us to a second, and to me, a more interesting point,
this idea of culture.....this idea of destroying ones native culture...
what exactly does this look like? What is the culture being destroyed
and what is the culture that replaced that destroyed culture, look like?
so, in other words, the old culture had this to represent it,
and because of immigration, Islamic immigration, we have a new
culture in the old culture place....so, what does that look like?
are your TV show different? is your music different? the museums
you go to, are they different and emphasis Islamic culture instead
of you own? and what does your own culture look like?
Your own native culture, what does that look like? What does it involve?
you claim your own native culture is being destroyed.... what does that
look like? and how is it different than the 50,000-year-old culture that
your ancestors destroyed? or the culture that my ancestors wiped out
and replaced?
I am admittedly old.... and I believe that my own culture has been destroyed..
I have no idea who these musicians are in today's music.
someone named "Bad Bunny" that isn't my culture... for my culture
was destroyed by idiots listening to really bad music... give me
''The Who'' or the ''The Beatles'' any day of the week...or how about
musicians who can play more than one cord? that would be nice......
my own native culture has been destroyed by whatever crap is now playing on
my radio or my TV set..... TV shows are now a wasteland of junk.. outside
the only original stuff going in TV which is Science Fiction shows.... and don't
even get me started on the wasteland that is movies.... reruns of reruns
of reruns.... there is no culture in repeating movie crap from 20 years ago.....
and literature? what culture lies in literature today?
to my way of thinking, literature died decades ago... and not from
Islamic immigration, but from a total lack of imagination.....
but hay, I could do as you have done and blame illegal immigrants
for the death of culture in America today..... but then I have to describe
what culture is being killed and what the new culture looks like....
something I haven't done and something you haven't done....
Make your case that Islamic immigration is ''destroying your own native culture""
Kropotkin
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Re: Has culture been killed?
Peter Kropotkin wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2024 3:16 pm Atto: Please list all the things of and how being "WOKE" makes the world a better place - than NOT being WOKE.
I'll add to this:
- am I WOKE because I have LGB friends - no issue with their sexual preferences?
- am I WOKE because I have friends of pretty much all ethnicities?
- am I WOKE because I believe in a multicultural society that does NOT overrun my own culture?
- am I WOKE because I believe in LEGAL immigration at levels that is not going to destroy my own culture of my own native people?
- am I WOKE because I believe that ISALMIC ideology is a very very EXTREME ideology that should be avoided as part of immigration to my nation?
K: I broke this out because I thought this was very interesting.....
Kropotkin - oh ye of simple thoughts (*very lacking in any depth)Peter Kropotkin wrote:Make your case that Islamic immigration is ''destroying your own native culture""
Kropotkin
Consider me Venus (Lucifer) in comparison to your "genius" = X
Substitute X for whatever denotes a genius in your form of "philosophy"...
So.
Are you going to continue to insist on ignoring the STATS?
Indeed, are you going to continue to ignore me>--? when I provide the STATS that you requested?
The number of suspects arrested rose by 7.3% to 2.246 million and 41.3% of them did not have a German passport.
Among the people without German nationality who were charged, 402,514 were described as refugees, asylum seekers and those who entered the country illegally.
In 2023, the offense of unauthorized entry rose 40% over the previous year, to 93,158 cases, while the offense of unauthorized stay increased by nearly 29% to 187,059 cases.
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Consider yourself lucky that there is a very very large pile of water between U and Africa-Middle East ...also, that you have a very very big country relative to UK which is being bombarded by these "lovely" people. That as above stats show >40% of ALL crime in Germany is because of foreign immigration..Peter Kropotkin wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2024 3:16 pmMake your case that Islamic immigration is ''destroying your own native culture""
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Re: Has culture been killed?
K: as I mentioned, I work full time, I will get to them when I have a day or so,attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2024 3:38 pmPeter Kropotkin wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2024 3:16 pm Atto: Please list all the things of and how being "WOKE" makes the world a better place - than NOT being WOKE.
I'll add to this:
- am I WOKE because I have LGB friends - no issue with their sexual preferences?
- am I WOKE because I have friends of pretty much all ethnicities?
- am I WOKE because I believe in a multicultural society that does NOT overrun my own culture?
- am I WOKE because I believe in LEGAL immigration at levels that is not going to destroy my own culture of my own native people?
- am I WOKE because I believe that ISALMIC ideology is a very very EXTREME ideology that should be avoided as part of immigration to my nation?
K: I broke this out because I thought this was very interesting.....Kropotkin - oh ye of simple thoughts (*very lacking in any depth)Peter Kropotkin wrote:Make your case that Islamic immigration is ''destroying your own native culture""
Kropotkin
Consider me Venus (Lucifer) in comparison to your "genius" = X
Substitute X for whatever denotes a genius in your form of "philosophy"...![]()
So.
Are you going to continue to insist on ignoring the STATS?
Indeed, are you going to continue to ignore me>--? when I provide the STATS that you requested?
The number of suspects arrested rose by 7.3% to 2.246 million and 41.3% of them did not have a German passport.
Among the people without German nationality who were charged, 402,514 were described as refugees, asylum seekers and those who entered the country illegally.
In 2023, the offense of unauthorized entry rose 40% over the previous year, to 93,158 cases, while the offense of unauthorized stay increased by nearly 29% to 187,059 cases.
to study them.....anything before that is a superficial view, at best....
Kropotkin
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Re: Has culture been killed?
K: and what is these stats relationship to one's culture that you haveattofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2024 3:41 pmConsider yourself lucky that there is a very very large pile of water between U and Africa-Middle East ...also, that you have a very very big country relative to UK which is being bombarded by these "lovely" people. That as above stats show >40% of ALL crime in Germany is because of foreign immigration..Peter Kropotkin wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2024 3:16 pmMake your case that Islamic immigration is ''destroying your own native culture""
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mentioned being destroyed? How is the crime rate destroying your
own culture? and are you even in Europe? or Germany? how does
that affect your ''destroying your own culture'' that you are complaining
about?
make some relationships between the two... any suppose crime rate
in Europe and the destruction of culture where you live?
Kropotkin
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Re: Has culture been killed?
The IRONY me ol' chum is that:Kropotkin wrote:with this thought in mind, the incoming English, in both Oz and the US,
came into their respective countries and wiped out the native cultures...
destroyed them...... should Atto as a person whose ancestor's wipe
out an entire culture, that had been there for over 50,000 years,
as did my ancestor's wiped out not just one Indian tribe but hundreds...
all over America.....destroyed not only their livelihood and food sources,
but wiped out their entire culture... to being nonexistent in America today....
Tribes that had been in America for over 10,000 years....
1. ALL cultures\tribes back in the years would overtake the weaker tribes for resources. It happened among the Northern Aboriginal population of Australia when the Ice Age melting caused land to become less thus resources diminished. Tribe took over tribe..
SO WOT? U WOKE X?
It (man's hunt for resources) has been happening since the year DOT.
IF the British didn't do it, the Spanish may have, the Portuguese may have, the Chinese the, Indonesians woteva - eventually = the Aboriginal Australians would have succumbed to a force ...perhaps worse than the British Empire (NZ - Aust - Canada - USA ) --> all peoples of democracy now - plus many more - we now have the power to stand up to actual tyranny.
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I'm trying...as the Hindus in India & Seikhs and indeed every bloody civilisation has been dealing with..Peter Kropotkin wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2024 3:50 pmK: and what is these stats relationship to one's culture that you have
mentioned being destroyed? How is the crime rate destroying your
own culture? and are you even in Europe? or Germany? how does
that affect your ''destroying your own culture'' that you are complaining
about? Kropotkin
I am trying to warn U of ISLAMIC ideology.
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Re: Has culture been killed?
K: there is a very old story called ''The Boy who cried Wolf''attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2024 4:02 pmI'm trying...as the Hindus in India & Seikhs and indeed every bloody civilisation has been dealing with..Peter Kropotkin wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2024 3:50 pmK: and what is these stats relationship to one's culture that you have
mentioned being destroyed? How is the crime rate destroying your
own culture? and are you even in Europe? or Germany? how does
that affect your ''destroying your own culture'' that you are complaining
about? Kropotkin
I am trying to warn U of ISLAMIC ideology.
maybe try reading that story.......
Kropotkin
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..have you ever heard the story of the boy that denied the sound of the Wolf?Peter Kropotkin wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2024 5:09 pmK: there is a very old story called ''The Boy who cried Wolf''attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2024 4:02 pmI'm trying...as the Hindus in India & Seikhs and indeed every bloody civilisation has been dealing with..Peter Kropotkin wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2024 3:50 pmK: and what is these stats relationship to one's culture that you have
mentioned being destroyed? How is the crime rate destroying your
own culture? and are you even in Europe? or Germany? how does
that affect your ''destroying your own culture'' that you are complaining
about? Kropotkin
I am trying to warn U of ISLAMIC ideology.
maybe try reading that story.......
Kropotkin
He went with the floW..
..as a doG is a man's best friend..God is a man's worst enemy,
Don't go with the floW the Wolf Kropotkin...the result is very very bad.
What's the TIME Mr WOLF? - go with the FLOW photon EMIT...from TIME
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In deed.
What's the TIME mr WOLF?
Don't think your soul matters to me...
U can all go with the FLOW the WOLF
I DONT CARE.
What's the TIME mr WOLF?
Don't think your soul matters to me...
U can all go with the FLOW the WOLF
I DONT CARE.
Re: Has culture been killed?
Islam is mostly anodyne like most of Christianity, Hinduism, and Buddhism. Yet they all have extremists.Peter Kropotkin wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2024 3:16 pm - am I WOKE because I believe that ISALMIC ideology is a very very EXTREME ideology that should be avoided as part of immigration to my nation?
Kropotkin
Islam now in many parts of the world is much like Christianity was in Europe about 100 years ago, and kust like many odd plaes in the USA, and remote areas of Poland. - a bit rapey and a bit bigoted.
One major reason Islam can tend to extremism is in defence of the attacks it constantly suffers from us, in several wars, and coups instituted by the USA and some European countries, principally the UK.
Since the end of WWI France and the British have oppressed Islam, and in the psot WWII period the USA, previously mostly hands off joined in to control oils resources and to impose Israel as a constant destabilising force.
Despite that most moslims in the UK are moderised and when left to thrive tend to adpat to and adopt local culture. Sadly rancid wankers like Tommy Robisnson decide they are too dark and wag cultural war against hem. Add to the continued intrigue and violence suffered by Muslims by "white christians" temds to radicalise and make them defensive.
London Mayor Sadiq Khan despite the prejudice and vitriol of clowns like our resident little doggie, hold their heads above the noise and have the trust and support of the majority of people. And the length and the bredth of this land that is repeated.
It i sonly radical extremists like attofishpi in their support of other racists who are trying to cause problems.
Re: Has culture been killed?
Only after you were told that "jesus christ" is rubbish, by an "islamic doctor".attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2024 4:02 pmI'm trying...as the Hindus in India & Seikhs and indeed every bloody civilisation has been dealing with..Peter Kropotkin wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2024 3:50 pmK: and what is these stats relationship to one's culture that you have
mentioned being destroyed? How is the crime rate destroying your
own culture? and are you even in Europe? or Germany? how does
that affect your ''destroying your own culture'' that you are complaining
about? Kropotkin
I am trying to warn U of ISLAMIC ideology.