Unsure why the British people marched?

[accelafine]

If you live in UK - you owe it to yourself to spare some time to see what is ACTUALLY happening. WISE up, before it's too late.

 
This was aired on a large screen at the rally..the police had demanded to see the video prior to the rally, Tommy refused.

LAWFARE: A Totalitarian State by Tommy Robinson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUGufiKTm6Q

He should be in gaol.
Serve a short sharp shock and be deported back to Ireland where he comes from.
He is NOT a journalist. He's just a rabble rousing hate-filled moron with authority issues.

He's not Irish you racist.

[attofishpi]

If you live in UK - you owe it to yourself to spare some time to see what is ACTUALLY happening. WISE up, before it's too late.

 
This was aired on a large screen at the rally..the police had demanded to see the video prior to the rally, Tommy refused.

LAWFARE: A Totalitarian State by Tommy Robinson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUGufiKTm6Q

He should be in gaol.
Serve a short sharp shock and be deported back to Ireland where he comes from.
He is NOT a journalist. He's just a rabble rousing hate-filled moron with authority issues.

He was in gaol for exposing Pakistani Muslim grooming\rape gangs - that the British "media" refused to report on.

Would you go to gaol to expose paedophiles? Nah, yer not a man...certainly have no right to consider yourself British. You are so blind to the truth, that the media are OWNED, BBC are pathetic..

[EDITED]

PS. I am working for Tommy and the British cause..watch this space.

[attofishpi]

Just for those that still think we British > 10 thousand at the 1st June event - are racist..ya can't play that card on us forever!

btw: 2 people out of all of those were arrested. The media reported 9 people were arrested at the event (but they didn't mention that they were the LEFT anti protesters)

About the DIVERSITY MARCH on June 1st 2024 - Protest against totalitarianism - My thoughts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0PWzZnkLAg

[godelian]

If you live in UK - you owe it to yourself to spare some time to see what is ACTUALLY happening. WISE up, before it's too late.
This was aired on a large screen at the rally..the police had demanded to see the video prior to the rally, Tommy refused.
LAWFARE: A Totalitarian State by Tommy Robinson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUGufiKTm6Q

In the video, they mention the slogan "from the river to the sea", meaning, from the Jordan river to the Mediterranean sea. The slogan is decidedly political. It merely means that the Palestinian resistance to the Zionist occupation claims jurisdiction over this area.

When before WWI, the French claimed jurisdiction over Alsace and Lorraine, and went to war over this, they did not intend to make racist claims against the Germans. Their demand was 100% political.

Claiming jurisdiction over a particular territory is not a racist statement. Never was. Never will be.

[Gary Childress]

If you live in UK - you owe it to yourself to spare some time to see what is ACTUALLY happening. WISE up, before it's too late.
This was aired on a large screen at the rally..the police had demanded to see the video prior to the rally, Tommy refused.
LAWFARE: A Totalitarian State by Tommy Robinson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUGufiKTm6Q

In the video, they mention the slogan "from the river to the sea", meaning, from the Jordan river to the Mediterranean sea. The slogan is decidedly political. It merely means that the Palestinian resistance to the Zionist occupation claims jurisdiction over this area.

When before WWI, the French claimed jurisdiction over Alsace and Lorraine, and went to war over this, they did not intend to make racist claims against the Germans. Their demand was 100% political.

Claiming jurisdiction over a particular territory is not a racist statement. Never was. Never will be.

I agree that Israel's settlements on the West Bank are illegal and it needs to stop and the situation of Palestinians in the occupied territories needs to improve. But, wanting to destroy Israel is not a realistic goal, nor any more moral than Israel's desire to destroy the resistance in Gaza once and for all. The destruction needs to stop on both sides.

[accelafine]

If you live in UK - you owe it to yourself to spare some time to see what is ACTUALLY happening. WISE up, before it's too late.
This was aired on a large screen at the rally..the police had demanded to see the video prior to the rally, Tommy refused.
LAWFARE: A Totalitarian State by Tommy Robinson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUGufiKTm6Q

In the video, they mention the slogan "from the river to the sea", meaning, from the Jordan river to the Mediterranean sea. The slogan is decidedly political. It merely means that the Palestinian resistance to the Zionist occupation claims jurisdiction over this area.

When before WWI, the French claimed jurisdiction over Alsace and Lorraine, and went to war over this, they did not intend to make racist claims against the Germans. Their demand was 100% political.

Claiming jurisdiction over a particular territory is not a racist statement. Never was. Never will be.

I agree that Israel's settlements on the West Bank are illegal and it needs to stop and the situation of Palestinians in the occupied territories needs to improve. But, wanting to destroy Israel is not a realistic goal, nor any more moral than Israel's desire to destroy the resistance in Gaza once and for all. The destruction needs to stop on both sides.

'Illegal' in what sense? Didn't they win the 6 day war? Who's the 'occupier'?

[godelian]

But, wanting to destroy Israel is not a realistic goal

The entire idea that the Palestinians would want to "destroy" things is just language engineering. When the British conquered Palestine from the Ottomans and established mandatory Palestine they did not "destroy" Ottoman Palestine. Claiming sovereignty over a territory and its population does not amount to "destroying" it.

Furthermore, antisemitism is indeed a form of hatred but not a form of racism, because the Jews are not a race.

Imagine a Chinese man marries a Jewish woman. The daughter will be Jewish but also 50% Chinese. Her daughter will be Jewish but 75% Chinese. Her daughter will be Jewish but 87.5% Chinese, and then 93.75% and then 96.875% Chinese. At this point, the daughter, who is completely Jewish, looks indistinguishably Chinese. She is not racially Jewish but Chinese. With Jewishness transferred by matrilineality, it is not a race but a tribe (or a clan). That community of Jews in China would simply be a Jewish clan of the Chinese race.



The image above is of Kaifeng Jews in China. Look carefully at their racial features. Do you really believe that they would be persecuted for racial reasons because they are of the Jewish "race"? The very idea that Jews would be hated for their racial features is impossible because there is no such thing as Jewish racial features. Hence, there is no "racism" against Jews because Jews can be of any race.

Therefore, the Palestinian resistance to the Zionist occupation is political. It cannot possibly be racial or be inspired by racism.

Below an image of Ethiopian Jews:



Are the people in the first image (Kaifeng Jews) and the ones in the second image (Ethiopian Jews) really of the same "race"? Seriously?

[Gary Childress]

In the video, they mention the slogan "from the river to the sea", meaning, from the Jordan river to the Mediterranean sea. The slogan is decidedly political. It merely means that the Palestinian resistance to the Zionist occupation claims jurisdiction over this area.

When before WWI, the French claimed jurisdiction over Alsace and Lorraine, and went to war over this, they did not intend to make racist claims against the Germans. Their demand was 100% political.

Claiming jurisdiction over a particular territory is not a racist statement. Never was. Never will be.

I agree that Israel's settlements on the West Bank are illegal and it needs to stop and the situation of Palestinians in the occupied territories needs to improve. But, wanting to destroy Israel is not a realistic goal, nor any more moral than Israel's desire to destroy the resistance in Gaza once and for all. The destruction needs to stop on both sides.

'Illegal' in what sense? Didn't they win the 6 day war? Who's the 'occupier'?

I believe there was a UN accord that prohibits Israeli settlement of the West Bank. It's mentioned quite a bit in news on the region and many have attested to its illegality.

[Gary Childress]

But, wanting to destroy Israel is not a realistic goal

The entire idea that the Palestinians would want to "destroy" things is just language engineering. When the British conquered Palestine from the Ottomans and established mandatory Palestine they did not "destroy" Ottoman Palestine. Claiming sovereignty over a territory and its population does not amount to "destroying" it.

Furthermore, antisemitism is indeed a form of hatred but not a form of racism, because the Jews are not a race.

Imagine a Chinese man marries a Jewish woman. The daughter will be Jewish but also 50% Chinese. Her daughter will be Jewish but 75% Chinese. Her daughter will be Jewish but 87.5% Chinese, and then 93.75% and then 96.875% Chinese. At this point, the daughter, who is completely Jewish, looks indistinguishably Chinese. She is not racially Jewish but Chinese. With Jewishness transferred by matrilineality, it is not a race but a tribe (or a clan). That community of Jews in China would simply be a Jewish clan of the Chinese race.



The image above is of Kaifeng Jews in China. Look carefully at their racial features. Do you really believe that they would be persecuted for racial reasons because they are of the Jewish "race"? The very idea that Jews would be hated for their racial features is impossible because there is no such thing as Jewish racial features. Hence, there is no "racism" against Jews because Jews can be of any race.

Therefore, the Palestinian resistance to the Zionist occupation is political. It cannot possibly be racial or be inspired by racism.

Below an image of Ethiopian Jews:



Are the people in the first image (Kaifeng Jews) and the ones in the second image (Ethiopian Jews) really of the same "race"? Seriously?

I didn't mention anything about "race". It seems more along the lines of a war between religious groups.

[Sculptor]

Are the people in the first image (Kaifeng Jews) and the ones in the second image (Ethiopian Jews) really of the same "race"? Seriously?

In Isreali schools thay are taught that that type of Jew is inferior.

[Sculptor]

I agree that Israel's settlements on the West Bank are illegal and it needs to stop and the situation of Palestinians in the occupied territories needs to improve. But, wanting to destroy Israel is not a realistic goal, nor any more moral than Israel's desire to destroy the resistance in Gaza once and for all. The destruction needs to stop on both sides.

'Illegal' in what sense? Didn't they win the 6 day war? Who's the 'occupier'?

I believe there was a UN accord that prohibits Israeli settlement of the West Bank. It's mentioned quite a bit in news on the region and many have attested to its illegality.

It also prohibits discrimination concerning water supply
It also prohibts police standing idle whilst people are dragged out of their family homes, beaten and the houses torched.
It also prohibits systematic cutting down of olive trees and other forms of subsistence.

[accelafine]

'Illegal' in what sense? Didn't they win the 6 day war? Who's the 'occupier'?

I believe there was a UN accord that prohibits Israeli settlement of the West Bank. It's mentioned quite a bit in news on the region and many have attested to its illegality.

It also prohibits discrimination concerning water supply
It also prohibts police standing idle whilst people are dragged out of their family homes, beaten and the houses torched.
It also prohibits systematic cutting down of olive trees and other forms of subsistence.

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[godelian]

Tommy is a national hero, this movement is NEVER GOING AWAY.

Given the rapid collapse in the fertility rate, it is not this movement but the native British population itself that is going away.

Unlike in Japan, South Korea, and China, the UK has a lot of immigrants in previous generations whose higher fertility rate masks the truth about how fast the native British population is dying out.

Hence, this Tommy movement is merely complaining about symptoms, i.e. "the natalist immigrants are taking over", instead of addressing the root cause, which is their own stubborn anti-natalism.

Nature abhors a void. Nature insists that the population must be filled up to capacity. Nature even addresses the fundamental problem by filling up the void in an anti-natalist population with natalist immigrants.

The native British population simply cannot or does not want to reproduce. Therefore, it has no future. It is doomed. It is simply scheduled to disappear.

So, Tommy has noticed that immigrants are natalist and hold a natalist beliefs that are not compatible with the ideology of the aging, dying, and disappearing anti-natalist native British population? What a genius! Seriously, what else did he expect?

Since you do not want children, why don't you just admit that you are finished as a society?

[Gary Childress]

Nature abhors a void. Nature insists that the population must be filled up to capacity. Nature even addresses the fundamental problem by filling up the void in an anti-natalist population with natalist immigrants.

Humans reproduce like rabbits when we're impoverished and have little more to do than have sex and tend gardens. Professionals tend to have fewer children. So it's not entirely true that nature insists that population must be filled up to capacity. And the Earth is not a limitless habitat for humans to over populate. Look at the environment, global climate change, fresh water supply scarcity in places, endangerment and extinction of vital species. Out of control reproduction is not a good thing.

[Gary Childress]

'Illegal' in what sense? Didn't they win the 6 day war? Who's the 'occupier'?

I believe there was a UN accord that prohibits Israeli settlement of the West Bank. It's mentioned quite a bit in news on the region and many have attested to its illegality.

It also prohibits discrimination concerning water supply
It also prohibts police standing idle whilst people are dragged out of their family homes, beaten and the houses torched.
It also prohibits systematic cutting down of olive trees and other forms of subsistence.

Certainly, that too, as I mentioned in my reply.