accelafine wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 6:20 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 1:30 pm
accelafine wrote: ↑Thu May 30, 2024 1:11 pm
The thread is about wokism, not science denying. Make your own thread if you want to 'prove' that global warming isn't happening.
I didn't say it isn't happening. I said it is. But I said what's true: we don't know exactly how fast, or why, or what the human role is in it. And that's exactly what science shows. Anybody who pretends to be more confident than that is not following science, but a popular narrative.
On that note, you should maybe actually read what people post. I talked a lot about Wokism. I just didn't agree with your claim that it had no association with the "global warming" issue. It certainly does.
And I'm right. Greta's the most obvious proof, but far from the totality of it. I could have talked further about the convenient association between Woke aspirations to force Socialism upon the developed West through deliberate destruction of Western economies by way of pretensions of "saving the planet," (see "The Great Reset," by the WEF), or the too-convenient association between selective punishing of the West for "decolonization" (another key Woke trope), while completely overlooking the colonial activities of places like China, as well as their disproportionate contribution to the gasses said to cause global warming...
Wokies are what is going to kill the planet. Because they're determined to make you and I look at things other than the real causes, and to waste all our energies and attention of things that
don't matter. That's because their real goal is the destruction of the "capitalist" economies of the West, so that Westerners become desperate and dependent, and Socialism can be installed. It's not about saving the planet. It's about advancing the Woke agenda.
But they'll never tell you that. You can see it, though, from what they focus on: the things that don't matter, and the things that won't help, and away from the only things that matter -- China and India. They don't care about the global poor, except as far as they can pretend to be their "champions" by excoriating the West. But when it comes down to it, they do absolutely nothing to help the developing world, or to change global warming.
It's the same as saying it's not happening. It's still a 'do nothing about it' approach. We're fucked now anyway, so nothing's going to make any difference either way.
Absolutely not. We can put our considerable intelligence into the job of creating cheaper, more sustainable and more powerful sources of energy, and on making them the basis of development for the developing world, rather that stupidly "investing" in strategies we already know do nothing, like windmills, solar panels, recycling and electric cars, and focus on things that are much more promising, like reducing consumerism, using clean coal, expanding nuclear, and especially hydrogen. And who knows what other technologies we shall invent, if we focus on the right things, and stop wasting our time on empty virtue-signalling and blaming the wrong people for the situation.
That's how we've always improved things before: by inventing, not by punishing those who have invented or benefitted from former technologies. But Wokies don't understand innovation. Their heads are still back in Marx's disproved Industrial Revolution grievance politics. They think that if they hate the successful (particularly the West) that they're doing something morally praiseworthy. Actually, they're just a nuisance and are interfering with any real chance for solutions.
