How wokeness is torpedoing the solidarity with Ukraine

[Immanuel Can]

Not in this case. If you think Dem and Repub are "religions," you need your head read. And just to really disappoint you, I don't live in your country, have never been either a Dem or a Repub, and won't be voting for either. So you're just about as wildly wrong as a person can be.

But here's the obvious fact: the Dems are presently in charge of the war, the war they started, and have control over any peace process. Those venial reps among the Repubs might possibly be as bad; but at present, they have no power over that. It's up to the "commander in chief," who is too busy being incontinent and senile, and is clearly now operated with strings from behind the scenes.

Yes, in this case too. As for being wildly wrong, I didn't say that political parties are religions, nor that I live in the US.

But you treated them like religions, and you do live in the US.

So the Dems started the war, thank you for the obvious fact.

Nobody else was in charge of NATO. Nobody else is supposed to be trying to settle the war and is not, either. As the saying goes, "By their deeds you shall know them."

Then it's time for Biden to make a counter-proposal. Now, where are those peace talks going to be happening...?

Don't hold your breath. There are too many American politicians, on both sides of the house, that want this war to go on.

Yes of course there are many American politicians who want Russia to bleed out in this war, and/or profit from the weapons shipments.

There are always narcissistic sociopaths, and more than the ordinary share is drawn to politics, obviously. It's fertile ground for them.

[Atla]

But you treated them like religions, and you do live in the US.

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Nobody else was in charge of NATO. Nobody else is supposed to be trying to settle the war and is not, either. As the saying goes, "By their deeds you shall know them."

If we want to argue Republican vs Democrat, Putin started his own conflicts after the Bush Jr. governments started a series of conflicts in the 2000s. It may have been the Russian reaction to the global change. But the 2022 invasion of Ukraine is primarily Putin's war anyway.

[Immanuel Can]

If we want to argue Republican vs Democrat,...

"We" don't need to. There's only one party in charge, right now. It's 100% up to them, at the moment.

That may change. When it does, we'll see.

[Atla]

If we want to argue Republican vs Democrat,...

"We" don't need to. There's only one party in charge, right now. It's 100% up to them, at the moment.

That may change. When it does, we'll see.

Yeah yeah back to the main issue:

Explain to the Ukrainians why they should give up on the occupied parts of their country?

[Immanuel Can]

If we want to argue Republican vs Democrat,...

"We" don't need to. There's only one party in charge, right now. It's 100% up to them, at the moment.

That may change. When it does, we'll see.

Yeah yeah back to the main issue:

That is the main issue: who's doing it.

Explain to the Ukrainians why they should give up on the occupied parts of their country?

You'll have to do that. It's nothing close to anything I proposed. Go back and read, if you forgot what the first proposal was. Or make your own case for them to give up parts of their country, since you seem to think that's what's involved: I certainly didn't say so.

[Atla]

"We" don't need to. There's only one party in charge, right now. It's 100% up to them, at the moment.

That may change. When it does, we'll see.

Yeah yeah back to the main issue:

That is the main issue: who's doing it.

Explain to the Ukrainians why they should give up on the occupied parts of their country?

You'll have to do that. It's nothing close to anything I proposed. Go back and read, if you forgot what the first proposal was. Or make your own case for them to give up parts of their country, since you seem to think that's what's involved: I certainly didn't say so.

Let's try again Mr. Head-in-the-sand,

Explain to the Ukrainians why they should give up on the occupied parts of their country?

[Immanuel Can]

Yeah yeah back to the main issue:

That is the main issue: who's doing it.

Explain to the Ukrainians why they should give up on the occupied parts of their country?

You'll have to do that. It's nothing close to anything I proposed. Go back and read, if you forgot what the first proposal was. Or make your own case for them to give up parts of their country, since you seem to think that's what's involved: I certainly didn't say so.

Let's try again Mr. Head-in-the-sand,

Explain to the Ukrainians why they should give up on the occupied parts of their country?

Go back and read my first proposal again, Miss I-Don't-Hear.

[Atla]

That is the main issue: who's doing it.


You'll have to do that. It's nothing close to anything I proposed. Go back and read, if you forgot what the first proposal was. Or make your own case for them to give up parts of their country, since you seem to think that's what's involved: I certainly didn't say so.

Let's try again Mr. Head-in-the-sand,

Explain to the Ukrainians why they should give up on the occupied parts of their country?

Go back and read my first proposal again, Miss I-Don't-Hear.

Let's try again Mr. Head-in-the-sand,

Explain to the Ukrainians why they should give up on the occupied parts of their country?

[Immanuel Can]

Let's try again Mr. Head-in-the-sand,

Explain to the Ukrainians why they should give up on the occupied parts of their country?

Go back and read my first proposal again, Miss I-Don't-Hear.

Let's try again Mr. Head-in-the-sand,

Explain to the Ukrainians why they should give up on the occupied parts of their country?

"Let's say Russia returns to its old borders, and Ukraine agrees not to join NATO." Those were my words. What part of that is too hard for you to understand? All of it?

[Atla]

Go back and read my first proposal again, Miss I-Don't-Hear.

Let's try again Mr. Head-in-the-sand,

Explain to the Ukrainians why they should give up on the occupied parts of their country?

"Let's say Russia returns to its old borders, and Ukraine agrees not to join NATO." Those were my words. What part of that is too hard for you to understand? All of it?

Let's try again Mr. Head-in-the-sand,

Explain to the Ukrainians why they should give up on the occupied parts of their country?

[Immanuel Can]

Let's try again Mr. Head-in-the-sand,

Explain to the Ukrainians why they should give up on the occupied parts of their country?

"Let's say Russia returns to its old borders, and Ukraine agrees not to join NATO." Those were my words. What part of that is too hard for you to understand? All of it?

Let's try again Mr. Head-in-the-sand,

Explain to the Ukrainians why they should give up on the occupied parts of their country?

Your brain's locked up. I should have guessed. What a shame.

[Atla]

"Let's say Russia returns to its old borders, and Ukraine agrees not to join NATO." Those were my words. What part of that is too hard for you to understand? All of it?

Let's try again Mr. Head-in-the-sand,

Explain to the Ukrainians why they should give up on the occupied parts of their country?

Your brain's locked up. I should have guessed. What a shame.

Of course we all knew you didn't have it in you to actually try to deal with the situation

[Immanuel Can]

Let's try again Mr. Head-in-the-sand,

Explain to the Ukrainians why they should give up on the occupied parts of their country?

Your brain's locked up. I should have guessed. What a shame.

Of course we all knew you didn't have it in you to actually try to deal with the situation

I may have overestimated your intellectual abilities. Sorry about that. Carry on as you are.

[Atla]

Your brain's locked up. I should have guessed. What a shame.

Of course we all knew you didn't have it in you to actually try to deal with the situation

I may have overestimated your intellectual abilities. Sorry about that. Carry on as you are.

Wonder what people like you have to gain from aiding Russia. Are you compensated in some way or do you do it for free?

[Immanuel Can]

Of course we all knew you didn't have it in you to actually try to deal with the situation

I may have overestimated your intellectual abilities. Sorry about that. Carry on as you are.

Wonder what people like you have to gain from aiding Russia. Are you compensated in some way or do you do it for free?

Like I said: if that's your question, then I've overestimated your abilities. Sorry about that.