Lies

[Gary Childress]

are another name for "metaphysics". You'll never catch Noam Chomsky doing "metaphysics".

[phyllo]

Metaphysics is just an attempt to make sense of the universe.

No need to panic.

[Sculptor]

We all do metaphysics. You cannot say metaphysics without contributing to the notion.
Chomsky does metaphysics. When he talks about "adjectives", as he will, he is making a metaphysical statement that you can condense a set of words into a concept.
Adjectives, nouns, verbs, and adverbs, as well as "The nominative", "subject" and so on are all metphsycal abstrations by which we hope to breakdown and categories our languages.

Taking a quote at random.

“Optimism is a strategy for making a better future. Because unless you believe that the future can be better, you are unlikely to step up and take responsibility for making it so.”
― Noam Chomsky

Littered with metaphysics

[Iwannaplato]

are another name for "metaphysics". You'll never catch Noam Chomsky doing "metaphysics".

Well, I gotta agree with Sculptor. People often consider metaphysics to be some kind of spiritual speculation or some thing that a scientist, for example, or secular rational person would never engage in. But physicalism and naturalism, as a couple of examples, are metaphysical positions. People have metaphysical positions on determinism/free will, reality vs. appearance, the mind body distinction (if there is one), cosmology, the fundamental make up of the universe, and even positions on considered scientific and secular, if they weigh in on such things are positions in metaphysics.

[Gary Childress]

are another name for "metaphysics". You'll never catch Noam Chomsky doing "metaphysics".

Well, I gotta agree with Sculptor. People often consider metaphysics to be some kind of spiritual speculation or some thing that a scientist, for example, or secular rational person would never engage in. But physicalism and naturalism, as a couple of examples, are metaphysical positions. People have metaphysical positions on determinism/free will, reality vs. appearance, the mind body distinction (if there is one), cosmology, the fundamental make up of the universe, and even positions on considered scientific and secular, if they weigh in on such things are positions in metaphysics.

Fair enough. Physicalism and naturalism, if they are to be seen as "metaphysical" positions seem truer and less prejudiced to me than what AJ is advocating.

[Iwannaplato]

Fair enough. Physicalism and naturalism, if they are to be seen as "metaphysical" positions seem truer and less prejudiced to me than what AJ is advocating.

What's his metaphysics - if you can quickly sum it up. I have exchanged some posts with him but didn't run across direct metaphysics. Implicit, yes. But then that's impossible to avoid.

[Impenitent]

if you say you are doing metaphysics more than once, you are lying...

once you meet physics, you have met them

-Imp

[Age]

The word 'metaphysics' like the words 'love', 'mind', 'soul', 'spirit', 'argue', 'philosophy', among many other words can have as many different meanings/definitions as there are people who can have meaning/definition or used in so many different ways, and even in completely opposite ways, that just using those words, without providing one's own personal definition/meaning for those words can leave the readers/hearers completely bamboozled or confused. Not that any of 'them' would admit to being so. They will usually just present their own personal views or beliefs, solely from their own perspective, definitions and meanings, for the words they use. Again, without providing their own personal definitions/meanings for the words they then use.

As can be seen very clearly above here.

All these people are talking 'past each other', without ever actually stopping to even just try to understand 'the other'.

For example, if I was to ask, 'What does the word 'metaphysical' mean or refer to, to each of you here?'

There would be as many individual different meanings, or references to as many individual different things, as there are individuals who respond.

This applies to countless other words as well.

And, these people, back when this was being written, wondered why they were still searching for 'answers'.

[Fairy]

If you don’t do Metaphysics - Metaphysics will do you.

True truth is neither subjective or objective; it is Absolute.

As Aristotle's most well-known definition of truth is in the Metaphysics.

“To say of what is that it is not, or of what is not that it is, is false, while to say of what is that it is, and of what is not that it is not, is true”

In other words: The lies which tell the truth.

[Fairy]

The word 'metaphysics' like the words 'love', 'mind', 'soul', 'spirit', 'argue', 'philosophy', among many other words can have as many different meanings/definitions as there are people who can have meaning/definition or used in so many different ways, and even in completely opposite ways, that just using those words, without providing one's own personal definition/meaning for those words can leave the readers/hearers completely bamboozled or confused. Not that any of 'them' would admit to being so. They will usually just present their own personal views or beliefs, solely from their own perspective, definitions and meanings, for the words they use. Again, without providing their own personal definitions/meanings for the words they then use.

As can be seen very clearly above here.

All these people are talking 'past each other', without ever actually stopping to even just try to understand 'the other'.

For example, if I was to ask, 'What does the word 'metaphysical' mean or refer to, to each of you here?'

There would be as many individual different meanings, or references to as many individual different things, as there are individuals who respond.

This applies to countless other words as well.

And, these people, back when this was being written, wondered why they were still searching for 'answers'.

While 'metaphysics' is an abstract word; it would have to be, since it applies to the endless questions asking what is the ''first principle''
Hitherto rather difficult to pin-down to any specific absolute truth since the philosopher is a relative entity, a temporal and limited assumed knower.

In other words; the absolute truth is closer than we think, we cannot know the absolute, we can only be the absolute, and that's metaphysics.

[Age]

The word 'metaphysics' like the words 'love', 'mind', 'soul', 'spirit', 'argue', 'philosophy', among many other words can have as many different meanings/definitions as there are people who can have meaning/definition or used in so many different ways, and even in completely opposite ways, that just using those words, without providing one's own personal definition/meaning for those words can leave the readers/hearers completely bamboozled or confused. Not that any of 'them' would admit to being so. They will usually just present their own personal views or beliefs, solely from their own perspective, definitions and meanings, for the words they use. Again, without providing their own personal definitions/meanings for the words they then use.

As can be seen very clearly above here.

All these people are talking 'past each other', without ever actually stopping to even just try to understand 'the other'.

For example, if I was to ask, 'What does the word 'metaphysical' mean or refer to, to each of you here?'

There would be as many individual different meanings, or references to as many individual different things, as there are individuals who respond.

This applies to countless other words as well.

And, these people, back when this was being written, wondered why they were still searching for 'answers'.

While 'metaphysics' is an abstract word; it would have to be, since it applies to the endless questions asking what is the ''first principle''
Hitherto rather difficult to pin-down to any specific absolute truth since the philosopher is a relative entity, a temporal and limited assumed knower.

In other words; the absolute truth is closer than we think, we cannot know the absolute, we can only be the absolute, and that's metaphysics.

Okay.

And thank you for providing a prime example of, exactly, what I was referring to and pointing out.

[Fairy]

The mind and the body must be identical. That’s the absolute definition of metaphysics.

Why, because where there’s form, there’s a mind. Subject and object are one absolutely.

[night912]

If you don’t do Metaphysics - Metaphysics will do you.

True truth is neither subjective or objective; it is Absolute.

As Aristotle's most well-known definition of truth is in the Metaphysics.

“To say of what is that it is not, or of what is not that it is, is false, while to say of what is that it is, and of what is not that it is not, is true”

In other words: The lies which tell the truth.

Objective and absolute are not mutually exclusive.