Sex and the Religious-Left

[Wizard22]

I think the Reaffirming quality of the Religious-Right is that their ideology is focused on the 'Moralization' of children, inculcating and educating the next generation of an Ethnos, of strictly Moral lessons through teachings, stories, and culture.

The Religious-Left, on the other hand, does the opposite. They destroy culture. They De-moralize children and the next generations. They do not teach Virtues, Honesty, Trust, etc. Mainly because, the Religious-Left does not have an Ethnos of their own.

[Atla]

I wouldn't deny that there is a very large contingent of 'religious' among the right, similar to the left, where both "mindlessly" follow-the-leader. That's kind of the premise of the thread here—among the Religious-Left there is a trend to present social and public displays of sexuality, as-if Hedonism were a moral virtue, as opposed to a moral shame (vis-a-vie from the Religious-Right). Thus the two are at odds, and battle on these Cultural issues. I bring Iwan's point to the center, because it demonstrates how both Left and Right are willing to "use Sex" to get what they want, but from different ends, with different ideas in mind.

Left and Right want fundamentally different outcomes, and will use Sex/Sexuality to get it.

The Religious-Left bases their metaphysical beliefs, core-values, and (im)morality off of Sexuality, specifically that *NOT* marrying into your own race and creating a big, loving family, with lots of children, is morally Good. In fact, it is morally Best to the Religious-Left to destroy the institution of marriage (All Traditions), and promote racial/ethnic mixing across the board. This is easily proved today, by Western Propaganda, that now inserts it into every movie, every tv show, every commercial, every billboard from Los Angeles to Berlin. This is worldwide, Global. So nobody can now deny the pervasiveness and perniciousness of the Religious-Left. They dominate Western Culture, and are destroying everything that used to be Good, Moral, True, and Righteous.

This will eventually result in Calamity, just a matter of when, not if. Sooner? Or later?


Western Media is dominated and run, mostly by Jews and a minority of Liberal-Leftist Whites, in the United States. From this coalition, Western Media and Propaganda is spread everywhere, and pretty much All Westerners thusly subscribe to this propaganda, which is essentially their Religion (the Religion of the Liberal-Left). In the 90s, 00s, 10s, they pretended to be "Atheist" and "Secular", but they're not. They act one-minded. They tolerate no doubt, no questioning, no interrogations, no arguments, no rationality, and no reasoning. They are as-religious if not more religious than the "Religious Right". They are more Un-thinking, Un-questioning. And they stop at nothing, to destroy the Religious-Right, which is what is going on politically in the United States currently.

The reason that Jews and Liberals took-over and dominated Western Media and propaganda, was because of how powerful Hitler came to power and dominated the new technologies of Radio and TV, in Europe. Upon the defeat of Nazi-Germany, Jews and Liberals vowed, to 'never again' let "Evil Whitey" gain control of Western Civilization's Medias and Propagandas. Hence, they worked fanatically and obsessed, to takeover and control these institutions, which took place since the 1950s. Note here, that these Jews and Liberals are "White" themselves, which has become a huge problem just these last few months, as the Liberal-Left is beginning to turn on International Jewry, by supporting the 'brown people' of Palestine, instea dof the 'white jews' of Israel. This has caused many Jews around the world to instantly "reassess" their previous decades of Propaganda. Can Jews really trust the Liberal-Left, or US Democrats??? It appears they cannot, if they are indeed Zionists and support the Israel 'project'.


These trends have a long history, and I cannot extrapolate them all here, now, so quickly. But there are a few main points to discuss. First, Jews fell in love and adulated American Patriots for freeing them from the Holocaust and Concentration Camps in Europe. So in the immediate Generation thereafter (1950-1975), Jews worked arm-in-arm with American WASPs, to create American "Public Relations" (Century of Self, Freud, Bernays). Jews and American Evangelicals rose to power, and sided against Stalin, USSR, and Eastern Europe in general, for Russia's expulsion of the Trotskyites/Jews. The West could not forgive "The East", for this. And it dominates politics especially today (Nikki Haley is the prime candidate for the US Military Industrial Complex on behalf of the Republican party). Second point, American Propaganda in the 1950s explicitly appealed to the White American Middle Class: white picket fences, Anglo husband and wife, Anglo children, hence expanding the US Middle Class which spilled-over immediately into Europe.

The Baby Boomer Generation was the result—the most Selfish generation of humans ever born in history, expressed on this forum right now.

The Jewish-Anglo Alliance was powerful and seemed to be invincible. It created American Hegemony across the world, and brought The West into the economic, social, political, cultural Golden Age that lasted from 1950-2001 in the United States. But, Good Times don't last forever! And that's what this is all really about. After one, two, three generations, Western Jews have created a propaganda that now works against the very ones who saved them from the Holocaust and Concentration Camps. Because of these broad racial generalities, 3rd Generation Jews (like Flash on this forum), now see "Evil Whitey" as Any White Person. Thus, the Nazi-Germans who created and executed plans to expel Jews from Weimar Germany... are perceived to be "the same as all other White People". The Propaganda that was created as a result of WWII and our Victory, now turns against Westerners, as Westerners are made to turn against ourselves.


Because of this vast Media control, the Propaganda now is undeniable throughout the West and entire world: Evil Whitey is to be hated...unless you're a groveling, kneeling, Libtard. If you prostrate yourself to the ground, like a bitch, then you can be 'Forgiven' of your Inherited Sin, according to the Religious-Left. This is why most of this forum, are the Religious-Left, and this is the core of the moral ideologies around here. But if you are a "Conservative-Right" Evil Whitey...then this is unforgivable. This is a Sin that cannot be forgiven.

Thus, you must "not notice" this racial-mixing propaganda that leaks into everything now, and all this Woke garbage turns our old media to shit. You're supposed to be blind—to movies, television, internet, billboards, etc. all which demand that Western (Whites explicitly) let in tens of millions of illegal immigrants (Moslems/Semites in Europe), or you must be made into a Heretic. And if you resist LGBTQMAP+ then again, you must be made into a Heretic.

And it is this 'sexual' point that is the pivotal point.

It is sexuality by which the Religious-Left dominate and control, wish to destroy Western Tradition, Western Families, and seek to 'revolutionize' the world.

The West has become split by Trump and the "MAGA" movement, for these reasons and causes. The "MAGA" Americans represent Conservative-Whites in the United States, who want to return to the 1950s, American "Golden Age". This normally wouldn't be a problem, to want to return to a 'better' past. But the Religious-Left has "progressed" too far.

They now call the Americans who fought and saved them from Nazi-Germany, the "New Nazis". This is how and why history repeats. It doesn't take Jews and the Liberal-Left very long to "conveniently forget" the recent past. Therefore, a New Scapegoat is needed, for Western Civilization. A new "Evil" must exist. The Religious-Left is happy to make this into Trump, the MAGA-movement, and Conservative-Right Americans in general. Thus the Conservative-Right and Religious-Right now get painted as "Nazis", even though we technically defeated them, and saved the Jews, less than a Century ago. But because the masses of the world have short-memories, it leads to a repetition of this history.


This battle is over 'Sexuality', over 'Sex'.

As Iwan recently, correctly observed: those who control the Sex, control Everything. Which is why the Religious-Left believe they/you have Impunity and Invincibility, when it comes to Western Civilization and Culture. Your side 'owns' the Media. You have owned it, since 1950.

So look at what you have produced, and are now responsible for!!!

Your side is responsible for LGBTQMAP+, "gender transitioning", these freaks pretending to be women, severely injuring women in women's sporting events, etc.

The Religious-Left must be stopped.

From what I've gathered, these Jews in power (the vast majority of jews are just pawns in the game like everyone else, and the jews in power will often sacrifice them too, so collectively hating on the jews is insane imo), will try every trick they can. Using sexuality to dismantle the family unit is at least a century old trick of theirs, they already did it in Germany which was one of the reasons that led to WW2.

Their main tricks are money, power, the media, but maybe we can say that messing with sexuality is the 4th.

Except only the 'real' liberals can stop the Religious-Left. This big Jewish influence in the US media and in the highest circles of US power, could only happen in the first place due to the blindness and stupidity of the average American voter, and the 'right' is easily the bigger offender in that.

And what could be better proof of this, than the belief on the 'right' that Trump is here to set things right. No, Trump is a clinical narcissist who has absolutely no fucking idea about the problem you detailed, and he never will because he isn't wired that way. He will say what you want to hear, in order to get elected, and that's all there is to it. That's how blind the 'right' still is. We all know anyway that the Jews have managed to collaborate with the Republicans, Trump's party, more than with the Democrats, at least some Democrat presidents tried to put up some resistance.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

WTF? Are there any sane people on here?

[Alexis Jacobi]

It is largely irrelevant who this woman is, but I became interested in the book title she is holding (Life in the Reich) so I looked it up. Mike Walsh is actually Michael McLaughlin and, as you will likely guess, is an historical revisionist and in this book (a series of books) he presents a view of Hitlerian Germany which attempts to correct what he believes is a negative view of (I guess) the entire Hitlerian movement.

McLaughlin was associated with the British Movement (the following is from Wiki):

For a time McLaughlin worked as a milkman, and as a result he was known as "The Milkman" in right wing circles, where he was seen as a largely unassuming figure. His first involvement with politics came when he joined the British Movement in 1968. He became leader of the British Movement in 1975 when Colin Jordan abruptly resigned. Although initially seen as not being leadership material he soon gained publicity for the BM by leading the campaign to free Robert Relf, who, at the time, had considerable sympathy in sections of the press.

Moving the BM headquarters away from Jordan's base in Coventry to Shotton, Flintshire, he repositioned the BM as a party geared towards the young working classes and by 1979 had raised membership to around 3,000. McLaughlin was sentenced by judge David Wyn Morgan in 1979 to six four-month prison sentences for publishing leaflets dealing with the British government's foreign policy and immigration policies. The jail term did not affect his position as leader.

The publisher's blurb about the book Life in the Reich:

The standard of living and quality of life in Hitler’s Third Reich was far superior to elsewhere in the developed world. Ordinary German workers enjoyed a lifestyle previously reserved for the upper classes of the West. Hitler’s Germany led the world in fashion, medicine, cinema, lifestyle, manufacturing, transport infrastructure, public facilities, cutting-edge science, healthcare and education. For good reason, the Germans were the cheeriest people on earth. The claim that this was achieved through investment in militarism is absurd. Despite being war economies, the debt-ridden U.S. and European Union suffer the collapse of their infrastructure whilst their indebted populations live a hand-to-mouth existence. Prosperity in the Reich set an example that damns the hideous failures of the mutually supportive capitalist and communist systems. A taboo topic for media and palace publishers, Life in the Reich by Mike Walsh was removed by Amazon because it dared to show Hitler’s Germany as it was and not as the propagandists would have us believe it was. Mainstream media and court publishers consider this a taboo topic because they don’t want you to know in case you draw the right conclusions.

The book is available on-line at Archive.

The importance, and the relevance, of becoming cognizant of historical revisionism seems to me self-evident. However it is not an easy territory to navigate because of the extreme contentiousness of the issues. Yet it is important to gain a perspective on how to examine historical revisionism since, and this is a fact, we are right in the midst of a period of time where the *narratives of the old order* are being challenged. In so many different ways the emerging Right-leaning movements such as MAGA, such as the presentations of Tucker Carlson and Candice Owens (among so many), define their struggles as anti-Marxist and describe their enemies as *taking over* the sphere of ideas and as *controlling the discourse*.

It should not go unnoticed that these reactionary movements that are developing can be compared to many different movements that arose in Europe to oppose, counter and propose alternatives to what was then also described as *Marxist undermining* of social and political norms. Therefore to describe our present as an *octave* of this former time is a helpful comparison.

The reason I want to point this out is because here, in these pages, Flash continually associated these reactionary stances with Nazism and Fascism. What I try to point out is that the comparison is a necessary one to make. Radical Left-Progressive Marxism is extremely aggressive in its activism. It operates like an *acid* against established orders. And those who notice this, who discern the effects of this cultural acid, necessarily must react with equal vigor. So in this way the Radical Left calls forth the reactions of the Radical Right. It seems to me that this dynamic needs to be much better understood.

In regard to various figures who now appear on the social scene with strange, oppositional, contrarian messages I would ask: Why is this happening? It is the most interesting question really.

Why, to take one example is this woman, who says she was born Jewish, why is she upending narratives with such zealousness? What is the social situation that is producing people who are willing to throw themselves into the fray of contention and make a public display out of an over-the-top rejection of proper, conventional perspectives and interpretations?

Going on: McLaughlin was associated with the British Movement -- definitely way on the fringes and Neo-Nazi tolerant. Later, when the BM collapsed, the British National Movement arose:

Ideologically positioned on the extreme-right or far-right of British politics, the BNP has been characterised as fascist or neo-fascist by political scientists. Under Tyndall's leadership, it was more specifically regarded as neo-Nazi. The party is ethnic nationalist, and it once espoused the view that only white people should be citizens of the United Kingdom. It calls for an end to non-white migration into the UK. It called initially for the compulsory expulsion of non-whites but, since 1999, it has advocated voluntary removals with financial incentives. It promotes biological racism and the white genocide conspiracy theory, calling for global racial separatism and condemning interracial relationships. Under Tyndall, the BNP emphasised anti-semitism and Holocaust denial, promoting the conspiracy theory that Jews seek to dominate the world through both communism and international capitalism. Under Griffin, the party's focus switched from anti-semitism towards Islamophobia. It promotes economic protectionism, Euroscepticism, and a transformation away from liberal democracy, while its social policies oppose feminism, LGBT rights, and societal permissiveness.

My suggestion? In order to get a handle on what is going on in our present, one has to fearlessly examine the structure of the ideas that people in all the different camps, from the extreme fringes of both the Radical Left and the Radical Right, and then back toward the center where, as it certainly plays out on this forum, people play out their positions in a sort of Live Action Role Playing.

What is the *right* perspective to take? I mean when one views and analyzes?

[Alexis Jacobi]

WTF? Are there any sane people on here?

Yes Veggie. Here I am. Is there anything I can help you with?

[Alexis Jacobi]

And what could be better proof of this, than the belief on the 'right' that Trump is here to set things right. No, Trump is a clinical narcissist who has absolutely no fucking idea about the problem you detailed, and he never will because he isn't wired that way. He will say what you want to hear, in order to get elected, and that's all there is to it. That's how blind the 'right' still is. We all know anyway that the Jews have managed to collaborate with the Republicans, Trump's party, more than with the Democrats, at least some Democrat presidents tried to put up some resistance.

As with many *declarations* that are made in our present (declaration: an encapsulating statement that attemps to sum up, in simple and reduced terms, what is *really happening*) this one surely has elements of truth. However, it also neglects to take into account what might indeed be the most important element in the Trump-inspired MAGA-movement. How can this be broached and talked about *fairly*? Is it possible to do this? And if it is possible, who then can carry it out?

The present MAGA Movement can be seen as an echo or an octave of the former America First Committee. One must become cognizant of the nature of the popular struggle against launching the nation into WWll, and their reasons, and the basis of their opposition: (this is what I suppose they would have said, more or less):

That elite factions, with ulterior motives that were not clearly revealed, had private reasons for engaging the entire nation in in geo-political struggles for purposes ulterior to that of the declared values of the US and to take a swing at becoming the most powerful and important hegemon on the world scene.

If you put aside Donald Trump, and even if he is re-elected he will pass away from the scene, you are still going to be left with an entire movement of people who, for a range of reasons, oppose 1) the deep-state system, and 2) the direction that the US is taking on a cultural level as a new wave of Marxian activists seek, as they always seem to, to attack conventional values and throw things into disarray.

People like Steve Bannon, Tucker Carlson, Candice Owens and entire lists of people who are *Trump supporting* or *Trump tolerant* will continue their activism to (as they might say) turn the ship of the US around from the direction (they believe) it is heading, and to set it on a different course. You have to understand that about 50% of the nation feels this way. If you don't you will be making a serious mistake.

He will say what you want to hear, in order to get elected, and that's all there is to it.

I think this is a false statement. That is not all there is to it. There are many people closely associated with Donald Trump who have coherently expressible ideological positions that are genuine and deeply felt.

The more that one understand those positions, the better one is able to (for example) compare them to the former American Left which was also protectionist, deeply suspicious of war adventures; opposed to mass immigration which always undermines labor and wages; and openly concerned about the traditional family as such and the stability of communities; and deeply concerned about the immense power of corporations, classed as *persons* but with eternal life and with so few mechanisms to oppose their domination of the public sphere.

The fact is that everything is so jumbled, so confused, to turned upside-down, that it is extremely difficult to sort things out.

The result: precisely the Endless Bickering that goes on here in this sphere. It is a symptom of enormous confusion.

[Alexis Jacobi]

I have never discussed any of that stuff here because I just don't want to talk about complex horrifying real world stuff with people like Wizard, Immanuel Can, Walker or you. But probably mainly Walker. The simple truth of the matter is that this forum is loaded with complete zealots who wouldn't think twice before taking a fucking nightmare that traps millions into an eternal insoluble conflict that routinely kills thousands without any sign of humanity, and just use it as an excuse to say nasty shit in line with their weird obsessions.

But I never have, and never would, under any circumstance support or celebrate Hamas, and you had absolutely no grounds to believe that I did.

Oh look at this poor, righteous, innocent soul, hell-bent on world peace...that goes around calling strangers Nazis, and lies in order to further the slander.

Straw-brains, have you ever considered that you might be the one the causing the world's calamities??? No, because you're on a philosophy forum ironically...

Note: It is unfair and indeed calumnious to associate Flash with *Hamas support*. He has hardly ever mentioned Hamas (do a search) and has a legitimate, rational position in regard to Israeli occupation.

[Atla]

And what could be better proof of this, than the belief on the 'right' that Trump is here to set things right. No, Trump is a clinical narcissist who has absolutely no fucking idea about the problem you detailed, and he never will because he isn't wired that way. He will say what you want to hear, in order to get elected, and that's all there is to it. That's how blind the 'right' still is. We all know anyway that the Jews have managed to collaborate with the Republicans, Trump's party, more than with the Democrats, at least some Democrat presidents tried to put up some resistance.

As with many *declarations* that are made in our present (declaration: an encapsulating statement that attemps to sum up, in simple and reduced terms, what is *really happening*) this one surely has elements of truth. However, it also neglects to take into account what might indeed be the most important element in the Trump-inspired MAGA-movement. How can this be broached and talked about *fairly*? Is it possible to do this? And if it is possible, who then can carry it out?

The present MAGA Movement can be seen as an echo or an octave of the former America First Committee. One must become cognizant of the nature of the popular struggle against launching the nation into WWll, and their reasons, and the basis of their opposition: (this is what I suppose they would have said, more or less):

That elite factions, with ulterior motives that were not clearly revealed, had private reasons for engaging the entire nation in in geo-political struggles for purposes ulterior to that of the declared values of the US and to take a swing at becoming the most powerful and important hegemon on the world scene.

If you put aside Donald Trump, and even if he is re-elected he will pass away from the scene, you are still going to be left with an entire movement of people who, for a range of reasons, oppose 1) the deep-state system, and 2) the direction that the US is taking on a cultural level as a new wave of Marxian activists seek, as they always seem to, to attack conventional values and throw things into disarray.

People like Steve Bannon, Tucker Carlson, Candice Owens and entire lists of people who are *Trump supporting* or *Trump tolerant* will continue their activism to (as they might say) turn the ship of the US around from the direction (they believe) it is heading, and to set it on a different course. You have to understand that about 50% of the nation feels this way. If you don't you will be making a serious mistake.

He will say what you want to hear, in order to get elected, and that's all there is to it.

I think this is a false statement. That is not all there is to it. There are many people closely associated with Donald Trump who have coherently expressible ideological positions that are genuine and deeply felt.

The more that one understand those positions, the better one is able to (for example) compare them to the former American Left which was also protectionist, deeply suspicious of war adventures; opposed to mass immigration which always undermines labor and wages; and openly concerned about the traditional family as such and the stability of communities; and deeply concerned about the immense power of corporations, classed as *persons* but with eternal life and with so few mechanisms to oppose their domination of the public sphere.

The fact is that everything is so jumbled, so confused, to turned upside-down, that it is extremely difficult to sort things out.

The result: precisely the Endless Bickering that goes on here in this sphere. It is a symptom of enormous confusion.

I think my statement

He will say what you want to hear, in order to get elected, and that's all there is to it.

stands. The situation is infinitely bizarre. MAGA, which the US indeed needs, was started by a clinical narcissist who has no moral convictions himself, but is merely mirroring what his voters/admirers need. And then, people who do actually have deeply and genuinely felt ideological positions, gravitate to the cause.

Not sure if this has happened before, don't think anyone could have foreseen it.

So the problem is that once again, change in the US is based on a lie. But maybe this time it doesn't matter, the pros could outweigh the cons, but maybe Trump needs to get out of the picture because he is oblivious to the Jewish influence that made America not great. Israel even welcomed Trump after they struggled with Obama if I'm not mistaken.

People both on the left and right want change, but it has to be for real.

[Harbal]

Note: It is unfair and indeed calumnious to associate Flash with *Hamas support*. He has hardly ever mentioned Hamas (do a search) and has a legitimate, rational position in regard to Israeli occupation.

Well said, Alexis, and thank you for teaching me a new word (calumnious).

Now how am I going to remember it?

[Alexis Jacobi]

In keeping with Wizard's assertions about the religious Left and the issue of sexuality, I submit this title for your perusal:

Sexual Utopia in Power
F. Roger Devlin

San Francisco: Counter-Currents, 2015
192 pages

About Sexual Utopia in Power:

Like many political revolutions, the sexual revolution of the 1960s began with a euphoric feeling of liberation. But when utopian programs clash with dissenters — and with reality itself — the result is chaos, which revolutionaries seek to quash with repression and terror. In Sexual Utopia in Power, F. Roger Devlin explores today’s sexual dystopia, with its loose morals and confused sexual roles; its soaring rates of divorce, celibacy, and childlessness; and the increasingly arbitrary and punitive attempts to regulate and police it. Devlin shows that the breakdown of monogamy results in promiscuity for the few, loneliness for the majority, and unhappiness for all.

Every revolution gives rise to a reaction. Devlin, however, is very critical of mainstream conservative responses to the sexual revolution, which often eerily echo feminist complaints about innocent women being preyed upon by wicked men who must be scolded and punished. The most controversial aspect of Devlin’s work is his argument that today’s sexual dystopia is rooted just as much in women’s nature as men’s, exploring such taboo topics as female hypergamy (mating up), narcissism, infidelity, deceptiveness, and masochism. By showing their biological basis, F. Roger Devlin offers a non-traditional defense of traditional sexual morals and institutions and shows us the way out of today’s sexual dystopia.

[Wizard22]

Except only the 'real' liberals can stop the Religious-Left. This big Jewish influence in the US media and in the highest circles of US power, could only happen in the first place due to the blindness and stupidity of the average American voter, and the 'right' is easily the bigger offender in that.

How is the 'right' the bigger offender when the Religious-Left own the lion's share of Mass Media used to propagate them all though?

Isn't that blaming the victim a little bit, Atla?

[Iwannaplato]

Except only the 'real' liberals can stop the Religious-Left. This big Jewish influence in the US media and in the highest circles of US power, could only happen in the first place due to the blindness and stupidity of the average American voter, and the 'right' is easily the bigger offender in that.

How is the 'right' the bigger offender when the Religious-Left own the lion's share of Mass Media used to propagate them all though?

Isn't that blaming the victim a little bit, Atla?

The people who own the media are nominally god knows what, but they aren't left, unless Blackrock and Vanguard and a few other behemoth companies are closet lefties, they are owned by people who like power and money and that's their political persuasion.

And the right needs to own up to how they were used: they fell for Reagan and Bush one and other conservatives selling the idea that enormous corporations freedom was the same freedom as the working class, and they took away restrictions on these companies, gutted government oversight and promoted a lot of BS about how this helped working class people. They brought us NAFTA. They gutted antitrust prosecutions. And other similar detoothings. The neocons enhanced corporate power power for decades and contributed to the formation of vast media conglomerates that are owned by companies we don't hear about. And of course concentrations of power in other sectors. Liberals have contributed to this, but not like the neocon-managed conservatives did. And they got you calling them leftist, when actually its doesn't care at all about politics except how it affects their power/money companies choosing how to distract people and get them to fight each other. There are people who used to be on the right but now tend not to think in those terms who get this. But generally speaking conservatives keep their focus very tight when assigning blame and cannot seem to manage to admit their own part in the current situation, nor how this lack of overview is helpful to the people with real power.

[Wizard22]

Note: It is unfair and indeed calumnious to associate Flash with *Hamas support*. He has hardly ever mentioned Hamas (do a search) and has a legitimate, rational position in regard to Israeli occupation.

Does the scarecrow brain really deserve 'fairness' though? If his main tactics are lies and slander, insults and personal attacks, then why should he be met or expected of Honesty? You see, Alexis, this is where my criticism of your 'tactics' reemerges: I don't think you fully understand the Religious-Left and their 'language' of violence.

It was a foolish mistake of Dpants to go toe-to-toe against Vege with slander. She put him in his place, and onto his back foot. Now I recommend that we simply nudge him over.

This is why my main critiques and criticisms of the Left, are to use their 'tactics' against them. They don't expect it from the Right. They don't expect the Right to Adapt or Change... which are usually hallmarks of the Left (ie. Liberalism).

In keeping with Wizard's assertions about the religious Left and the issue of sexuality, I submit this title for your perusal:

Sexual Utopia in Power
F. Roger Devlin

San Francisco: Counter-Currents, 2015
192 pages

About Sexual Utopia in Power:

Like many political revolutions, the sexual revolution of the 1960s began with a euphoric feeling of liberation. But when utopian programs clash with dissenters — and with reality itself — the result is chaos, which revolutionaries seek to quash with repression and terror. In Sexual Utopia in Power, F. Roger Devlin explores today’s sexual dystopia, with its loose morals and confused sexual roles; its soaring rates of divorce, celibacy, and childlessness; and the increasingly arbitrary and punitive attempts to regulate and police it. Devlin shows that the breakdown of monogamy results in promiscuity for the few, loneliness for the majority, and unhappiness for all.

Every revolution gives rise to a reaction. Devlin, however, is very critical of mainstream conservative responses to the sexual revolution, which often eerily echo feminist complaints about innocent women being preyed upon by wicked men who must be scolded and punished. The most controversial aspect of Devlin’s work is his argument that today’s sexual dystopia is rooted just as much in women’s nature as men’s, exploring such taboo topics as female hypergamy (mating up), narcissism, infidelity, deceptiveness, and masochism. By showing their biological basis, F. Roger Devlin offers a non-traditional defense of traditional sexual morals and institutions and shows us the way out of today’s sexual dystopia.

I think it's too obvious at this point for the Religious-Left to defend themselves, which they now retort and accuse the Right of "Conspiracy Theories". Basically, the gist and brunt of their ideologies are aimed at Western, "White", Males and Western White Females (like Vege) are becoming collateral damage, which is why the "Left and Right" can now meet in the middle on issues never before considered as areas of cooperation and mingling...

All we need to do is point-out their (controlled), explicit Propaganda. They spray and splay black-male, white-female sexual 'pairings' and 'couplings' throughout all Western Countries now, and the masses are put-off by it, traditionalist European countries in particular. Conservatives do not like it. It is mostly tolerated by 'Liberals'; (Hairball here, Scalpy, Dpants, Iwan is more of a moderate but him too, Greg, Etc.) but they cannot deny brazenness and openness of it any longer. Dpants, beside wetting his pants daily, which is expected, recently made a "Conspiracy Theorist" thread as a retort, and a failed attempt to bring in Liberal-Left support, to retaliate against our allegations and claims.


All the masses need to do now, really, is question: why is black-male white-female coupling so promoted and "tolerated", encouraged really, by the Liberal-Left, and white-male white-female coupling is slandered, demeaned, mocked, ridiculed, etc.? Why is "cis-gendered" bad? Why is homosexuality and transexuality, thereby, morally good???

And this is the essence of this thread: the inversion of Western Mores (Morals), through sexuality, as a means of religious, cultural, societal, and 'political' "control" (as stated by Iwan himself).

[Wizard22]

The people who own the media are nominally god knows what, but they aren't left, unless Blackrock and Vanguard and a few other behemoth companies are closet lefties, they are owned by people who like power and money and that's their political persuasion.

And the right needs to own up to how they were used: they fell for Reagan and Bush one and other conservatives selling the idea that enormous corporations freedom was the same freedom as the working class, and they took away restrictions on these companies, gutted government oversight and promoted a lot of BS about how this helped working class people. They brought us NAFTA. The neocons enhanced corporate power power for decades and contributed to the formation of vast media conglomerates that are owned by companies we don't hear about. And of course concentrations of power in other sectors. Liberals have contributed to this, but not like the neocon-managed conservatives did. And they got you calling them leftist, when actually its doesn't care at all about politics except how it affects their power/money companies choosing how to distract people and get them to fight each other. There are people who used to be on the right but now tend not to think in those terms who get this. But generally speaking conservatives keep their focus very tight when assigning blame and cannot seem to manage to admit their own part in the current situation, nor how this lack of overview is helpful to the people with real power.

I agree with all this, by the way, and it is the exact reason why the Globalist/Marxist Elitists pivoted on a dime, and changed strategies overnight, when it came to the 'Occupy Wallstreet' movement. Again, I'll restate, "Tim Poole", Joe Rogan, even Elon Musk's takeover of Twitter, and the "Alt-Left", can all be sourced from the Occupy movement in 2008.

And these are Leftists who wanted to remain 'moderate' and 'centrist'. Now, they appear "Right" to the Far-Left, culturally.

The Obama Administration approved Black Op, Psy-ops, to be run against the American public, shortly thereafter (Color Revolutions).

The George Floyd Protests, BLM, Antifa, street-killings of Conservatives and the Political-Right, were the direct consequences.


As Iwan correctly states, the Conservative-Right is much slower to adapt. But the 'Controllers' are not Left nor Right, per se...

[Atla]

Except only the 'real' liberals can stop the Religious-Left. This big Jewish influence in the US media and in the highest circles of US power, could only happen in the first place due to the blindness and stupidity of the average American voter, and the 'right' is easily the bigger offender in that.

How is the 'right' the bigger offender when the Religious-Left own the lion's share of Mass Media used to propagate them all though?

Isn't that blaming the victim a little bit, Atla?

Because the "right" has a somewhat lower average intelligence and is therefore easier manipulated, deceived.