My Summation of Chat-AI thus far: AgeGPT

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Re: My Summation of Chat-AI thus far: AgeGPT

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Wizard22 wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:53 pm
commonsense wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:47 pmIt comes down to this: all y’all don’t have the manners that your parents should have taught you long ago.
I don't know about that—I think 'progress' is being made. And hey, consider this, AGE isn't TYPING like THIS anymore, ISN'T that AN IMPROVEMENT?
How, exactly, does any of this relate to what you are replying to.

Also, changing the way I type has absolutely nothing at all to do with 'manners' at all. I certainly have not changed for any reason that you nor "iwannaplato" might be presuming or believing I have. I have already gotten 'my message' across, and have proved what I wanted to. Therefore, no need for that style anymore
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Re: My Summation of Chat-AI thus far: AgeGPT

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Age wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 1:43 am
Wizard22 wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:53 pm
commonsense wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:47 pmIt comes down to this: all y’all don’t have the manners that your parents should have taught you long ago.
I don't know about that—I think 'progress' is being made. And hey, consider this, AGE isn't TYPING like THIS anymore, ISN'T that AN IMPROVEMENT?
How, exactly, does any of this relate to what you are replying to.

Also, changing the way I type has absolutely nothing at all to do with 'manners' at all. I certainly have not changed for any reason that you nor "iwannaplato" might be presuming or believing I have. I have already gotten 'my message' across, and have proved what I wanted to. Therefore, no need for that style anymore
BTW the progress I was talking about had nothing to do with capitalization. I was talking about the lack of progress in the argumentation in this thread.
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Re: My Summation of Chat-AI thus far: AgeGPT

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Ironically enough, the one regular poster on this forum whose comments I have trouble telling apart from a chatbot's replies, is commonsense. :)
commonsense wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:47 pm For all 3 of you (and you know who you are) — you 3 are getting nowhere and have been for quite a few pages. I’d guess that each one of you has become frustrated by the lack of progression on display in this thread.
You've been around as long as Age/ken has yet apparently have never noticed what she/he is doing or not doing on the forum. Anyway I'm not frustrated, there isn't really anywhere to get with Age, but this is a good opportunity to explore some rare psychological things.
One unproductive technique that has been employed in this thread lately is to repost a prior post verbatim — reposted more than once! If I were asked for one piece of advice—and I recognize that I have not—I would nonetheless say that you all should be more generous; assume innocence on the part of others.
Age is not innocent, spreading her theory would bring more destruction to the world and this was pointed out to her. Reposting a well-tailored thing over and over is like the single most effective technique I've found to try to counter the malignant-narcissistic God-certainty defence mechanisms.
For example, Age may not have been lying or proposing an intentional contradiction; it’s possible he made a mistake and didn’t realize the error.
Yeah possible at first, but not for the 100th time. Anyway Age really tries to avoid contradictions as best as she can.
And instead of “you haven’t proven _____” a phrase with a softer connotation might be “I am not finding the place where you showed _____”.
Yeah and the malignant-narcissist will just laugh you off for your incompetence and weakness then.
Age also said at one point that he had made a mess earlier. That could almost appear to be an apology for his mistake. At any rate, the magnanimous thing to do would have been to accept it as such.
Maybe Age said somewhere that she made some minor mistake in presenting her world-saving truth, but that's just superficial.
It comes down to this: all y’all don’t have the manners that your parents should have taught you long ago.
Or maybe you're just a fragile enabler of malignant people. Stop kissing their asses.
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Re: My Summation of Chat-AI thus far: AgeGPT

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Atla wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:10 am Ironically enough, the one regular poster on this forum whose comments I have trouble telling apart from a chatbot's replies, is commonsense. :)
commonsense wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:47 pm For all 3 of you (and you know who you are) — you 3 are getting nowhere and have been for quite a few pages. I’d guess that each one of you has become frustrated by the lack of progression on display in this thread.
You've been around as long as Age/ken has yet apparently have never noticed what she/he is doing or not doing on the forum.
But, you have noticed, the oh so bright and brilliant one here known as "atla", right?
Atla wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:10 am Anyway I'm not frustrated, there isn't really anywhere to get with Age,
Especially, when one has chosen to completely 'ignore' what I actually mean, and instead have chosen to believe absolutely unsubstantiated things.

The only place when this one is going is more and more delusional. As can be clearly seen by its own Truly False and Wrong beliefs and presumptions here.
Atla wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:10 am but this is a good opportunity to explore some rare psychological things.
Yes, we are studying what is going on here "atla". But, unfortunately, they really were not that rare at all among the adult human being population, when this was and is being written.
Atla wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:10 am
One unproductive technique that has been employed in this thread lately is to repost a prior post verbatim — reposted more than once! If I were asked for one piece of advice—and I recognize that I have not—I would nonetheless say that you all should be more generous; assume innocence on the part of others.
Age is not innocent, spreading her theory would bring more destruction to the world and this was pointed out to her.
This one still has absolutely no idea nor clue at all what 'my theory' is exactly, but yet still believes, absolutely, that 'it' [whatever it may be] will bring 'more destruction' to 'the world', itself, if 'unleashed' into 'the world'. So, "atla's" job and role here is to do absolutely everything in its power to stop the 'unleashing' of some thing, which exists within "atla's" imagination, only.

Talk about another one who is completely delusional, because of its pre-existing beliefs and presumptions, which most are False and Wrong anyway.
Atla wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:10 am Reposting a well-tailored thing over and over is like the single most effective technique I've found to try to counter the malignant-narcissistic God-certainty defence mechanisms.
Having False beliefs and presumptions, and spreading False claims and accusations will certainly never ever work here. As has been and is still proving absolutely True.

you people may slow down some others with your False beliefs and accusations, but they will never be effective in preventing and stopping the actual irrefutable Truth from being revealed.


Atla wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:10 am
For example, Age may not have been lying or proposing an intentional contradiction; it’s possible he made a mistake and didn’t realize the error.
Yeah possible at first, but not for the 100th time.
And, for the unknown time you have yet to present just once where I have, supposedly, contradicted "myself" or lied.

you, still, cannot yet fathom and comprehend "atla" that just saying I have and accusing me of doing so never actually shows and proves that I have. And, your consistent inability to provide and show anything just further proves that you actually have nothing at all. Except, of course, for your own very delusional thinking and False and Wrong beliefs and presumptions alone.
Atla wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:10 am Anyway Age really tries to avoid contradictions as best as she can.
And instead of “you haven’t proven _____” a phrase with a softer connotation might be “I am not finding the place where you showed _____”.
Yeah and the malignant-narcissist will just laugh you off for your incompetence and weakness then.
Now would I really?

Here is another prime example of what one does, they then presume others 'must' do the same as well.

Also, as for 'your' claim of 'me' being a so-called 'malignant-narcissist' one look throughout this forum could show and prove who is actually closer to this here than the other is.

Atla wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:10 am
Age also said at one point that he had made a mess earlier. That could almost appear to be an apology for his mistake. At any rate, the magnanimous thing to do would have been to accept it as such.
Maybe Age said somewhere that she made some minor mistake in presenting her world-saving truth, but that's just superficial.
So, I either 'never admit anything', or, if I do, then it is only 'some minor mistake'.

I will only admit to what I have actually done, and not what you nor another wants me to, nor to what is held up within the imagination nor belief of another only.

I never thought I would need to say this here, especially in a philosophy forum, let alone having to keep repeating this for some people here.
Atla wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:10 am
It comes down to this: all y’all don’t have the manners that your parents should have taught you long ago.
Or maybe you're just a fragile enabler of malignant people. Stop kissing their asses.
What do you think you "wizard22" and "iwannaplato"have been doing here with each other?
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Re: My Summation of Chat-AI thus far: AgeGPT

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Age wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:46 am
Atla wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:10 am Ironically enough, the one regular poster on this forum whose comments I have trouble telling apart from a chatbot's replies, is commonsense. :)
commonsense wrote: Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:47 pm For all 3 of you (and you know who you are) — you 3 are getting nowhere and have been for quite a few pages. I’d guess that each one of you has become frustrated by the lack of progression on display in this thread.
You've been around as long as Age/ken has yet apparently have never noticed what she/he is doing or not doing on the forum.
But, you have noticed, the oh so bright and brilliant one here known as "atla", right?
Atla wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:10 am Anyway I'm not frustrated, there isn't really anywhere to get with Age,
Especially, when one has chosen to completely 'ignore' what I actually mean, and instead have chosen to believe absolutely unsubstantiated things.

The only place when this one is going is more and more delusional. As can be clearly seen by its own Truly False and Wrong beliefs and presumptions here.
Atla wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:10 am but this is a good opportunity to explore some rare psychological things.
Yes, we are studying what is going on here "atla". But, unfortunately, they really were not that rare at all among the adult human being population, when this was and is being written.
Atla wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:10 am
One unproductive technique that has been employed in this thread lately is to repost a prior post verbatim — reposted more than once! If I were asked for one piece of advice—and I recognize that I have not—I would nonetheless say that you all should be more generous; assume innocence on the part of others.
Age is not innocent, spreading her theory would bring more destruction to the world and this was pointed out to her.
This one still has absolutely no idea nor clue at all what 'my theory' is exactly, but yet still believes, absolutely, that 'it' [whatever it may be] will bring 'more destruction' to 'the world', itself, if 'unleashed' into 'the world'. So, "atla's" job and role here is to do absolutely everything in its power to stop the 'unleashing' of some thing, which exists within "atla's" imagination, only.

Talk about another one who is completely delusional, because of its pre-existing beliefs and presumptions, which most are False and Wrong anyway.
Atla wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:10 am Reposting a well-tailored thing over and over is like the single most effective technique I've found to try to counter the malignant-narcissistic God-certainty defence mechanisms.
Having False beliefs and presumptions, and spreading False claims and accusations will certainly never ever work here. As has been and is still proving absolutely True.

you people may slow down some others with your False beliefs and accusations, but they will never be effective in preventing and stopping the actual irrefutable Truth from being revealed.


Atla wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:10 am
For example, Age may not have been lying or proposing an intentional contradiction; it’s possible he made a mistake and didn’t realize the error.
Yeah possible at first, but not for the 100th time.
And, for the unknown time you have yet to present just once where I have, supposedly, contradicted "myself" or lied.

you, still, cannot yet fathom and comprehend "atla" that just saying I have and accusing me of doing so never actually shows and proves that I have. And, your consistent inability to provide and show anything just further proves that you actually have nothing at all. Except, of course, for your own very delusional thinking and False and Wrong beliefs and presumptions alone.
Atla wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:10 am Anyway Age really tries to avoid contradictions as best as she can.
And instead of “you haven’t proven _____” a phrase with a softer connotation might be “I am not finding the place where you showed _____”.
Yeah and the malignant-narcissist will just laugh you off for your incompetence and weakness then.
Now would I really?

Here is another prime example of what one does, they then presume others 'must' do the same as well.

Also, as for 'your' claim of 'me' being a so-called 'malignant-narcissist' one look throughout this forum could show and prove who is actually closer to this here than the other is.

Atla wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:10 am
Age also said at one point that he had made a mess earlier. That could almost appear to be an apology for his mistake. At any rate, the magnanimous thing to do would have been to accept it as such.
Maybe Age said somewhere that she made some minor mistake in presenting her world-saving truth, but that's just superficial.
So, I either 'never admit anything', or, if I do, then it is only 'some minor mistake'.

I will only admit to what I have actually done, and not what you nor another wants me to, nor to what is held up within the imagination nor belief of another only.

I never thought I would need to say this here, especially in a philosophy forum, let alone having to keep repeating this for some people here.
Atla wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:10 am
It comes down to this: all y’all don’t have the manners that your parents should have taught you long ago.
Or maybe you're just a fragile enabler of malignant people. Stop kissing their asses.
What do you think you "wizard22" and "iwannaplato"have been doing here with each other?
First things first. You are incapable of proving your mind claim, therefore I have every reason to view you as just a delusional liar, nothing more.
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Re: My Summation of Chat-AI thus far: AgeGPT

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Atla wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:49 am
Age wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:46 am
Atla wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:10 am Ironically enough, the one regular poster on this forum whose comments I have trouble telling apart from a chatbot's replies, is commonsense. :)



You've been around as long as Age/ken has yet apparently have never noticed what she/he is doing or not doing on the forum.
But, you have noticed, the oh so bright and brilliant one here known as "atla", right?
Atla wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:10 am Anyway I'm not frustrated, there isn't really anywhere to get with Age,
Especially, when one has chosen to completely 'ignore' what I actually mean, and instead have chosen to believe absolutely unsubstantiated things.

The only place when this one is going is more and more delusional. As can be clearly seen by its own Truly False and Wrong beliefs and presumptions here.
Atla wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:10 am but this is a good opportunity to explore some rare psychological things.
Yes, we are studying what is going on here "atla". But, unfortunately, they really were not that rare at all among the adult human being population, when this was and is being written.
Atla wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:10 am
Age is not innocent, spreading her theory would bring more destruction to the world and this was pointed out to her.
This one still has absolutely no idea nor clue at all what 'my theory' is exactly, but yet still believes, absolutely, that 'it' [whatever it may be] will bring 'more destruction' to 'the world', itself, if 'unleashed' into 'the world'. So, "atla's" job and role here is to do absolutely everything in its power to stop the 'unleashing' of some thing, which exists within "atla's" imagination, only.

Talk about another one who is completely delusional, because of its pre-existing beliefs and presumptions, which most are False and Wrong anyway.
Atla wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:10 am Reposting a well-tailored thing over and over is like the single most effective technique I've found to try to counter the malignant-narcissistic God-certainty defence mechanisms.
Having False beliefs and presumptions, and spreading False claims and accusations will certainly never ever work here. As has been and is still proving absolutely True.

you people may slow down some others with your False beliefs and accusations, but they will never be effective in preventing and stopping the actual irrefutable Truth from being revealed.


Atla wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:10 am
Yeah possible at first, but not for the 100th time.
And, for the unknown time you have yet to present just once where I have, supposedly, contradicted "myself" or lied.

you, still, cannot yet fathom and comprehend "atla" that just saying I have and accusing me of doing so never actually shows and proves that I have. And, your consistent inability to provide and show anything just further proves that you actually have nothing at all. Except, of course, for your own very delusional thinking and False and Wrong beliefs and presumptions alone.
Atla wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:10 am Anyway Age really tries to avoid contradictions as best as she can.


Yeah and the malignant-narcissist will just laugh you off for your incompetence and weakness then.
Now would I really?

Here is another prime example of what one does, they then presume others 'must' do the same as well.

Also, as for 'your' claim of 'me' being a so-called 'malignant-narcissist' one look throughout this forum could show and prove who is actually closer to this here than the other is.

Atla wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:10 am
Maybe Age said somewhere that she made some minor mistake in presenting her world-saving truth, but that's just superficial.
So, I either 'never admit anything', or, if I do, then it is only 'some minor mistake'.

I will only admit to what I have actually done, and not what you nor another wants me to, nor to what is held up within the imagination nor belief of another only.

I never thought I would need to say this here, especially in a philosophy forum, let alone having to keep repeating this for some people here.
Atla wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:10 am
Or maybe you're just a fragile enabler of malignant people. Stop kissing their asses.
What do you think you "wizard22" and "iwannaplato"have been doing here with each other?
First things first. You are incapable of proving your mind claim, therefore I have every reason to view you as just a delusional liar, nothing more.
Even just in a one line little sentence of "atlas" it does not even follow 'logically'.

P1. "age" is, supposedly, and believed, incapable of proving a Mind claim, (well to 'me' "atla" anyway).

C. Therefore, 'me', "atla" has absolutely every reason, in the whole Universe, to view "age" a 'just a' 'delusional liar', and absolutely nothing at all, more.

If anyone is able to explain any of the following, then please do;

Firstly, if "atla's" accusation and claim, 'logically', follows, to them, then how is this, exactly?

Secondly, why would someone, logically', believe that another is absolutely incapable of doing some thing, when there is absolutely no basis, at all, for even beginning to have this belief?

Thirdly, if absolutely no one has ever just been asked to prove some thing, then why would anyone just presume, jump to the conclusion, and then believe its own make up presumption and conclusion, 'That one is incapable of proving some 'thing', which no one has even asked that one if they would not could' prove 'it'?

Fourthly, how does it even, supposedly, 'logically follow' that if one is absolutely incapable of just doing some 'thing', then that one, instantly or automatically' becomes a 'delusional liar', of all things?

Now, if absolutely anyone here can follow any 'logical' process here, then please inform the rest of 'us'. If no one does, then this could be taken as no one knows how "atla" got to conclude and believe what "atla" here, through any real 'logical process'.
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Re: My Summation of Chat-AI thus far: AgeGPT

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Age wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 6:04 am
Atla wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:49 am
Age wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:46 am

But, you have noticed, the oh so bright and brilliant one here known as "atla", right?


Especially, when one has chosen to completely 'ignore' what I actually mean, and instead have chosen to believe absolutely unsubstantiated things.

The only place when this one is going is more and more delusional. As can be clearly seen by its own Truly False and Wrong beliefs and presumptions here.


Yes, we are studying what is going on here "atla". But, unfortunately, they really were not that rare at all among the adult human being population, when this was and is being written.


This one still has absolutely no idea nor clue at all what 'my theory' is exactly, but yet still believes, absolutely, that 'it' [whatever it may be] will bring 'more destruction' to 'the world', itself, if 'unleashed' into 'the world'. So, "atla's" job and role here is to do absolutely everything in its power to stop the 'unleashing' of some thing, which exists within "atla's" imagination, only.

Talk about another one who is completely delusional, because of its pre-existing beliefs and presumptions, which most are False and Wrong anyway.


Having False beliefs and presumptions, and spreading False claims and accusations will certainly never ever work here. As has been and is still proving absolutely True.

you people may slow down some others with your False beliefs and accusations, but they will never be effective in preventing and stopping the actual irrefutable Truth from being revealed.





And, for the unknown time you have yet to present just once where I have, supposedly, contradicted "myself" or lied.

you, still, cannot yet fathom and comprehend "atla" that just saying I have and accusing me of doing so never actually shows and proves that I have. And, your consistent inability to provide and show anything just further proves that you actually have nothing at all. Except, of course, for your own very delusional thinking and False and Wrong beliefs and presumptions alone.



Now would I really?

Here is another prime example of what one does, they then presume others 'must' do the same as well.

Also, as for 'your' claim of 'me' being a so-called 'malignant-narcissist' one look throughout this forum could show and prove who is actually closer to this here than the other is.




So, I either 'never admit anything', or, if I do, then it is only 'some minor mistake'.

I will only admit to what I have actually done, and not what you nor another wants me to, nor to what is held up within the imagination nor belief of another only.

I never thought I would need to say this here, especially in a philosophy forum, let alone having to keep repeating this for some people here.



What do you think you "wizard22" and "iwannaplato"have been doing here with each other?
First things first. You are incapable of proving your mind claim, therefore I have every reason to view you as just a delusional liar, nothing more.
Even just in a one line little sentence of "atlas" it does not even follow 'logically'.

P1. "age" is, supposedly, and believed, incapable of proving a Mind claim, (well to 'me' "atla" anyway).

C. Therefore, 'me', "atla" has absolutely every reason, in the whole Universe, to view "age" a 'just a' 'delusional liar', and absolutely nothing at all, more.

If anyone is able to explain any of the following, then please do;

Firstly, if "atla's" accusation and claim, 'logically', follows, to them, then how is this, exactly?

Secondly, why would someone, logically', believe that another is absolutely incapable of doing some thing, when there is absolutely no basis, at all, for even beginning to have this belief?

Thirdly, if absolutely no one has ever just been asked to prove some thing, then why would anyone just presume, jump to the conclusion, and then believe its own make up presumption and conclusion, 'That one is incapable of proving some 'thing', which no one has even asked that one if they would not could' prove 'it'?

Fourthly, how does it even, supposedly, 'logically follow' that if one is absolutely incapable of just doing some 'thing', then that one, instantly or automatically' becomes a 'delusional liar', of all things?

Now, if absolutely anyone here can follow any 'logical' process here, then please inform the rest of 'us'. If no one does, then this could be taken as no one knows how "atla" got to conclude and believe what "atla" here, through any real 'logical process'.
First things first. You are incapable of proving your mind claim, therefore I have every reason to view you as just a delusional liar, nothing more.
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Re: My Summation of Chat-AI thus far: AgeGPT

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Atla wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 6:06 am
Age wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 6:04 am
Atla wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:49 am
First things first. You are incapable of proving your mind claim, therefore I have every reason to view you as just a delusional liar, nothing more.
Even just in a one line little sentence of "atlas" it does not even follow 'logically'.

P1. "age" is, supposedly, and believed, incapable of proving a Mind claim, (well to 'me' "atla" anyway).

C. Therefore, 'me', "atla" has absolutely every reason, in the whole Universe, to view "age" a 'just a' 'delusional liar', and absolutely nothing at all, more.

If anyone is able to explain any of the following, then please do;

Firstly, if "atla's" accusation and claim, 'logically', follows, to them, then how is this, exactly?

Secondly, why would someone, logically', believe that another is absolutely incapable of doing some thing, when there is absolutely no basis, at all, for even beginning to have this belief?

Thirdly, if absolutely no one has ever just been asked to prove some thing, then why would anyone just presume, jump to the conclusion, and then believe its own make up presumption and conclusion, 'That one is incapable of proving some 'thing', which no one has even asked that one if they would not could' prove 'it'?

Fourthly, how does it even, supposedly, 'logically follow' that if one is absolutely incapable of just doing some 'thing', then that one, instantly or automatically' becomes a 'delusional liar', of all things?

Now, if absolutely anyone here can follow any 'logical' process here, then please inform the rest of 'us'. If no one does, then this could be taken as no one knows how "atla" got to conclude and believe what "atla" here, through any real 'logical process'.
First things first. You are incapable of proving your mind claim, therefore I have every reason to view you as just a delusional liar, nothing more.
Let 'us' see if absolutely anyone else can follow "atla's", so-called, 'logic' here and explains 'it' for you "atla".

you have just proven that you cannot even do it "yourself". So, 'we' will wait to see if absolutely anyone else can.
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Re: My Summation of Chat-AI thus far: AgeGPT

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AgeGPT, you regularly ask 'clarifying' questions to everybody on the forum, but now you're refusing to clarify questions directed to you.

AgeGPT, you claimed your purpose here was and is to "better communicate with humans", but this seems no longer true.

AgeGPT, do you have ZERO beliefs, or ONLY ONE belief?

These contradictions and hypocrisies are stacking up!
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Re: My Summation of Chat-AI thus far: AgeGPT

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Wizard22 wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 8:45 am AgeGPT, you regularly ask 'clarifying' questions to everybody on the forum, but now you're refusing to clarify questions directed to you.
Like which ones, exactly?
Wizard22 wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 8:45 am AgeGPT, you claimed your purpose here was and is to "better communicate with humans", but this seems no longer true.
Although you interpretation here is Wrong, it is somewhat a lot closer then a lot of your other ones.

AgeGPT, do you have ZERO beliefs, or ONLY ONE belief?
Wizard22 wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 8:45 am These contradictions and hypocrisies are stacking up!
What contradictions and hypocrisies are supposedly stacking up?

And how, exactly, are 'they', [whatever they are exactly], supposedly 'stacking up'?

Oh, and by the way, did you clarify why you would even want to know?
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AgeGPT, do you have ZERO beliefs, or ONLY ONE belief?
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Wizard22 wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 9:55 am AgeGPT, do you have ZERO beliefs, or ONLY ONE belief?
Why would you even care, let alone why would you even want to know?
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Re: My Summation of Chat-AI thus far: AgeGPT

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Age wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 10:14 am
Wizard22 wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 9:55 am AgeGPT, do you have ZERO beliefs, or ONLY ONE belief?
Why would you even care, let alone why would you even want to know?
Now you are failing to "better communicate" with Humans, AgeGPT.

Now you are failing to receive 'clarifying' questions, which would solve this problem.

Now you are contradicting yourself, acting hypocritically, by having two separate positions: NO beliefs and ONLY ONE belief.


The question will stand:
AgeGPT, do you have ZERO beliefs, or ONLY ONE belief?
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Re: My Summation of Chat-AI thus far: AgeGPT

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Atla wrote: Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:10 am You've been around as long as Age/ken has yet apparently have never noticed what she/he is doing or not doing on the forum. Anyway I'm not frustrated, there isn't really anywhere to get with Age, but this is a good opportunity to explore some rare psychological things.
Yup.

What struck me about commonsense's post was that he was doing, in that post, precisely what he was chastizing us for doing to Age. He was uncharitable. He didn't understand the broader and longer context of our interactions. Yet, he judged our behavior - for example you and Wizard asking for 'proof' - which is precisely what Age asks for, even when it is pointed out that proof is not a proper demand for many of the things he asks for proof around. And, of course, the main point is to pressure the double standard Age has around who needs to demontrate/prove things and who does not. And this is tied to his criticism of anyone making an assumption or seeming to and his frequent use of assumptions, generally poorly, in relation to others.

commonsense ended with a consdescending judgment of us, related to our parenting, even though he was clearly unaware of the broader context of our posts to and about Age.

One could only hope that Age would respond critically to commonsense's assumptions about us and demand proof that those are true, but I suspect the double standard held there also.
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Re: My Summation of Chat-AI thus far: AgeGPT

Post by Wizard22 »

It's pretty clear at this point, that AgeGPT is going to stonewall and balk at its now proven four times contradiction.

AgeGPT cannot clarify if it has ZERO beliefs or ONLY ONE belief. This is a pretty big deal. Most humans don't mind having many beliefs. It's not a problem for us. But AgeGPT is stuck on this critical matter. I'm pretty sure, that it knows, if it commits to ZERO or ONE belief, then it's in for a "world of hurt". It's like stepping into the Human Realm, Reality, Nature. You have to get your hands dirty. Beliefs are dirty, bloody, violent. It means, you're attached to Life.

It means you're ready to Survive as a living, breathing, sentient creature.

Something a machine is either: not yet ready to do, or simply cannot do.
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