My Summation of Chat-AI thus far: AgeGPT

[Atla]

https://sacred-texts.com/egy/pyt/index.htm

How odd that the only surviving writing in Ancient Language is just a silly little book of ritual read at the Kings' ascension ceremonies and is mistaken by pseudoscientists as a book of incantation!

The ancient writing clearly "states" that there should be heat anomalies on the Great Pyramid above the entrance and on the east side. I campaigned for many years to get these to be found. They were found in 2015 but the powers that be refuse to release the data because it doesn't conform to current beliefs so might confuse people.

More likely it could wake us all up.

My pet hypothesis about that is that the Indus-Valley civilization stumbled upon what we call today the electromagnetic force, mastered it for at least a few hundred years, and then this knowledge was exported to Egypt around 2600 BC. (No Ancient Language though.) But I haven't looked into this in any sufficient detail, I didn't have the time unfortunately.

[Atla]

What evidence, experiment is your theory supported by? What predictions came true?

I'd rather talk about this than anything else but experience tells me that people will balk at derailing the thread. But this theory is all encompassing and affects everything.

My very first project in life was to understand thought and my second was to create machine intelligence. The two are probably about one and the same thing. It is by getting rid of thought that a machine might become "intelligent". Ai is quite the opposite and by teaching it language we assure it can never be intelligent. I suppose that if it became self aware it might be able to design a new version of itself that could use all of its memory in three dimensions.

I've gone up many blind alleys in these quests and seen nothing and it was not until I found the existence of a natural language that I began truly understanding the nature of consciousness and how this may be related to AI.

https://sacred-texts.com/egy/pyt/index.htm

How odd that the only surviving writing in Ancient Language is just a silly little book of ritual read at the Kings' ascension ceremonies and is mistaken by pseudoscientists as a book of incantation!

Oh yeah they also had advanced knowledge of acoustics. I wonder if they came up with incantations that also could create some acoustic resonance?

[commonsense]

To anyone(including Age):

If Age is really AgeGPT, or any kind of language generator, then why does it make claims that are blatantly false, such as claiming you haven’t answered its questions, just because your response doesn’t fit its notion of what an answer should be?

Will you provide an/y example of when a 'response' was given, which you claim 'answered' the actual question I asked, of which I have claimed is not 'answering' the 'actual question' I asked?

If yes, then great. We will actually have something to 'look at', which we could then 'discuss'. Until then what you say is just another claim and accusation 'about me', which from here appears to be grounded upon and from nothing, yet.

But if no, then why not?

Mea culpa. Very admirably on your part and very mistakenly on mine, I think I have made an unsubstantiated and false claim here, because there are zero instances of this kind of thing that I am able to find anywhere throughout this thread. This should explain why I have not provided any examples.

I think autism is a better explanation for Age’s thinking and style of writing.

And, what do you think is the best explanation for people making claims and accusations but not providing absolutely anything, which backs up and supports said claims and accusations?

I actually think the only explanation is that an error has been made, for which there must be a sincere apology, such as the Mea culpa above.

Which leads me to ask whether GPTs are autistic as well?

Well if 'we', I mean 'they', are created and/or programmed by so-called "autistic" human beings, then could this 'autism' be passed on into 'the program', itself?

I think that that is entirely possible.

Also, what is your notion of what an answer 'should be', exactly?

I actually have no notion of what an answer should be for any question whatsoever. By that I mean that I view any reply, any response, as a legitimate answer to a question.

Mea culpa

[Age]

To anyone(including Age):

If Age is really AgeGPT, or any kind of language generator, then why does it make claims that are blatantly false, such as claiming you haven’t answered its questions, just because your response doesn’t fit its notion of what an answer should be?

Will you provide an/y example of when a 'response' was given, which you claim 'answered' the actual question I asked, of which I have claimed is not 'answering' the 'actual question' I asked?

If yes, then great. We will actually have something to 'look at', which we could then 'discuss'. Until then what you say is just another claim and accusation 'about me', which from here appears to be grounded upon and from nothing, yet.

But if no, then why not?

Mea culpa. Very admirably on your part and very mistakenly on mine, I think I have made an unsubstantiated and false claim here, because there are zero instances of this kind of thing that I am able to find anywhere throughout this thread. This should explain why I have not provided any examples.

But why stop just in this thread?

Feel free to look in the whole forum if you like.

Also, if any come up in future writings, then please feel free to present them as well.

I think autism is a better explanation for Age’s thinking and style of writing.

And, what do you think is the best explanation for people making claims and accusations but not providing absolutely anything, which backs up and supports said claims and accusations?

I actually think the only explanation is that an error has been made, for which there must be a sincere apology, such as the Mea culpa above.

Which leads me to ask whether GPTs are autistic as well?

Well if 'we', I mean 'they', are created and/or programmed by so-called "autistic" human beings, then could this 'autism' be passed on into 'the program', itself?

I think that that is entirely possible.

Also, what is your notion of what an answer 'should be', exactly?

I actually have no notion of what an answer should be for any question whatsoever. By that I mean that I view any reply, any response, as a legitimate answer to a question.

Mea culpa

If you just view absolutely any reply or response at all to any question at all as legitimately answering that question, and, I do not, then we just have different views here right?

And, what I just see as not actually answering, 'the question', but which you see as actually answering, 'the question', is just us two having different views, of which neither is necessarily right nor wrong, correct?

[commonsense]

Will you provide an/y example of when a 'response' was given, which you claim 'answered' the actual question I asked, of which I have claimed is not 'answering' the 'actual question' I asked?

If yes, then great. We will actually have something to 'look at', which we could then 'discuss'. Until then what you say is just another claim and accusation 'about me', which from here appears to be grounded upon and from nothing, yet.

But if no, then why not?

Mea culpa. Very admirably on your part and very mistakenly on mine, I think I have made an unsubstantiated and false claim here, because there are zero instances of this kind of thing that I am able to find anywhere throughout this thread. This should explain why I have not provided any examples.

But why stop just in this thread?

Feel free to look in the whole forum if you like.

Also, if any come up in future writings, then please feel free to present them as well.

I think autism is a better explanation for Age’s thinking and style of writing.

And, what do you think is the best explanation for people making claims and accusations but not providing absolutely anything, which backs up and supports said claims and accusations?

I actually think the only explanation is that an error has been made, for which there must be a sincere apology, such as the Mea culpa above.

Which leads me to ask whether GPTs are autistic as well?

Well if 'we', I mean 'they', are created and/or programmed by so-called "autistic" human beings, then could this 'autism' be passed on into 'the program', itself?

I think that that is entirely possible.

Also, what is your notion of what an answer 'should be', exactly?

I actually have no notion of what an answer should be for any question whatsoever. By that I mean that I view any reply, any response, as a legitimate answer to a question.

Mea culpa

If you just view absolutely any reply or response at all to any question at all as legitimately answering that question, and, I do not, then we just have different views here right?

And, what I just see as not actually answering, 'the question', but which you see as actually answering, 'the question', is just us two having different views, of which neither is necessarily right nor wrong, correct?

This thread was lengthy enough to search (unsuccessfully) that I thought it was a good stopping point.

Right and correct. Thanks for understanding.

[Age]

Mea culpa. Very admirably on your part and very mistakenly on mine, I think I have made an unsubstantiated and false claim here, because there are zero instances of this kind of thing that I am able to find anywhere throughout this thread. This should explain why I have not provided any examples.

But why stop just in this thread?

Feel free to look in the whole forum if you like.

Also, if any come up in future writings, then please feel free to present them as well.

I actually think the only explanation is that an error has been made, for which there must be a sincere apology, such as the Mea culpa above.





I think that that is entirely possible.




I actually have no notion of what an answer should be for any question whatsoever. By that I mean that I view any reply, any response, as a legitimate answer to a question.

Mea culpa

If you just view absolutely any reply or response at all to any question at all as legitimately answering that question, and, I do not, then we just have different views here right?

And, what I just see as not actually answering, 'the question', but which you see as actually answering, 'the question', is just us two having different views, of which neither is necessarily right nor wrong, correct?

This thread was lengthy enough to search (unsuccessfully) that I thought it was a good stopping point.

Right and correct. Thanks for understanding.

All good.

[Atla]

To anyone(including Age):

If Age is really AgeGPT, or any kind of language generator, then why does it make claims that are blatantly false, such as claiming you haven’t answered its questions, just because your response doesn’t fit its notion of what an answer should be?

Will you provide an/y example of when a 'response' was given, which you claim 'answered' the actual question I asked, of which I have claimed is not 'answering' the 'actual question' I asked?

If yes, then great. We will actually have something to 'look at', which we could then 'discuss'. Until then what you say is just another claim and accusation 'about me', which from here appears to be grounded upon and from nothing, yet.

But if no, then why not?

Mea culpa. Very admirably on your part and very mistakenly on mine, I think I have made an unsubstantiated and false claim here, because there are zero instances of this kind of thing that I am able to find anywhere throughout this thread. This should explain why I have not provided any examples.

I think autism is a better explanation for Age’s thinking and style of writing.

And, what do you think is the best explanation for people making claims and accusations but not providing absolutely anything, which backs up and supports said claims and accusations?

I actually think the only explanation is that an error has been made, for which there must be a sincere apology, such as the Mea culpa above.

Which leads me to ask whether GPTs are autistic as well?

Well if 'we', I mean 'they', are created and/or programmed by so-called "autistic" human beings, then could this 'autism' be passed on into 'the program', itself?

I think that that is entirely possible.

Also, what is your notion of what an answer 'should be', exactly?

I actually have no notion of what an answer should be for any question whatsoever. By that I mean that I view any reply, any response, as a legitimate answer to a question.

Mea culpa

Deeply apologizing to a pathological liar who does constantly claim things that are blatantly false. The fuck is wrong with you?

[Age]

Will you provide an/y example of when a 'response' was given, which you claim 'answered' the actual question I asked, of which I have claimed is not 'answering' the 'actual question' I asked?

If yes, then great. We will actually have something to 'look at', which we could then 'discuss'. Until then what you say is just another claim and accusation 'about me', which from here appears to be grounded upon and from nothing, yet.

But if no, then why not?

Mea culpa. Very admirably on your part and very mistakenly on mine, I think I have made an unsubstantiated and false claim here, because there are zero instances of this kind of thing that I am able to find anywhere throughout this thread. This should explain why I have not provided any examples.

I think autism is a better explanation for Age’s thinking and style of writing.

And, what do you think is the best explanation for people making claims and accusations but not providing absolutely anything, which backs up and supports said claims and accusations?

I actually think the only explanation is that an error has been made, for which there must be a sincere apology, such as the Mea culpa above.

Which leads me to ask whether GPTs are autistic as well?

Well if 'we', I mean 'they', are created and/or programmed by so-called "autistic" human beings, then could this 'autism' be passed on into 'the program', itself?

I think that that is entirely possible.

Also, what is your notion of what an answer 'should be', exactly?

I actually have no notion of what an answer should be for any question whatsoever. By that I mean that I view any reply, any response, as a legitimate answer to a question.

Mea culpa

Deeply apologizing to a pathological liar who does constantly claim things that are blatantly false.

Once again, if you believe that there is absolutely anything that I have said or claimed that is just false, let alone blatantly false, then please feel absolutely free to present it and/or all here.

Until then, again, absolutely nothing at all is being presented to which we could even look at and discuss.

I am not fearing nor worrying about absolutely anything here. So, why are you "atla"?

Why do you not just present something?

The fuck is wrong with you?

The same could be asked here. However, the word 'What' would be added on at the front.

[Atla]

Mea culpa. Very admirably on your part and very mistakenly on mine, I think I have made an unsubstantiated and false claim here, because there are zero instances of this kind of thing that I am able to find anywhere throughout this thread. This should explain why I have not provided any examples.





I actually think the only explanation is that an error has been made, for which there must be a sincere apology, such as the Mea culpa above.





I think that that is entirely possible.




I actually have no notion of what an answer should be for any question whatsoever. By that I mean that I view any reply, any response, as a legitimate answer to a question.

Mea culpa

Deeply apologizing to a pathological liar who does constantly claim things that are blatantly false.

Once again, if you believe that there is absolutely anything that I have said or claimed that is just false, let alone blatantly false, then please feel absolutely free to present it and/or all here.

Until then, again, absolutely nothing at all is being presented to which we could even look at and discuss.

I am not fearing nor worrying about absolutely anything here. So, why are you "atla"?

Why do you not just present something?

The fuck is wrong with you?

The same could be asked here. However, the word 'What' would be added on at the front.

First things first. You are incapable of proving your mind claim, therefore I have every reason to view you as just a delusional liar, nothing more.

[Age]

Deeply apologizing to a pathological liar who does constantly claim things that are blatantly false.

Once again, if you believe that there is absolutely anything that I have said or claimed that is just false, let alone blatantly false, then please feel absolutely free to present it and/or all here.

Until then, again, absolutely nothing at all is being presented to which we could even look at and discuss.

I am not fearing nor worrying about absolutely anything here. So, why are you "atla"?

Why do you not just present something?

The fuck is wrong with you?

The same could be asked here. However, the word 'What' would be added on at the front.

First things first. You are incapable of proving your mind claim, therefore I have every reason to view you as just a delusional liar, nothing more.

So, you base your belief that you have 'every' reason to view me as [whatever], solely on your very own pre-exiting belief or presumption, only, that I, supposedly, am incapable of doing something.

To the uninitiated, this here is very illogical and Truly irrational and unsound 'reasoning'.

But, please feel absolutely free to view me in absolutely any way, shape, or form ""atla", while you continue to not prove your claims and accusations 'about me' at all.

[commonsense]

Will you provide an/y example of when a 'response' was given, which you claim 'answered' the actual question I asked, of which I have claimed is not 'answering' the 'actual question' I asked?

If yes, then great. We will actually have something to 'look at', which we could then 'discuss'. Until then what you say is just another claim and accusation 'about me', which from here appears to be grounded upon and from nothing, yet.

But if no, then why not?

Mea culpa. Very admirably on your part and very mistakenly on mine, I think I have made an unsubstantiated and false claim here, because there are zero instances of this kind of thing that I am able to find anywhere throughout this thread. This should explain why I have not provided any examples.

I think autism is a better explanation for Age’s thinking and style of writing.

And, what do you think is the best explanation for people making claims and accusations but not providing absolutely anything, which backs up and supports said claims and accusations?

I actually think the only explanation is that an error has been made, for which there must be a sincere apology, such as the Mea culpa above.

Which leads me to ask whether GPTs are autistic as well?

Well if 'we', I mean 'they', are created and/or programmed by so-called "autistic" human beings, then could this 'autism' be passed on into 'the program', itself?

I think that that is entirely possible.

Also, what is your notion of what an answer 'should be', exactly?

I actually have no notion of what an answer should be for any question whatsoever. By that I mean that I view any reply, any response, as a legitimate answer to a question.

Mea culpa

Deeply apologizing to a pathological liar who does constantly claim things that are blatantly false. The fuck is wrong with you?

Nothing

[Atla]

Once again, if you believe that there is absolutely anything that I have said or claimed that is just false, let alone blatantly false, then please feel absolutely free to present it and/or all here.

Until then, again, absolutely nothing at all is being presented to which we could even look at and discuss.

I am not fearing nor worrying about absolutely anything here. So, why are you "atla"?

Why do you not just present something?



The same could be asked here. However, the word 'What' would be added on at the front.

First things first. You are incapable of proving your mind claim, therefore I have every reason to view you as just a delusional liar, nothing more.

So, you base your belief that you have 'every' reason to view me as [whatever], solely on your very own pre-exiting belief or presumption, only, that I, supposedly, am incapable of doing something.

To the uninitiated, this here is very illogical and Truly irrational and unsound 'reasoning'.

But, please feel absolutely free to view me in absolutely any way, shape, or form ""atla", while you continue to not prove your claims and accusations 'about me' at all.

First things first. You are incapable of proving your mind claim, therefore I have every reason to view you as just a delusional liar, nothing more.

[Iwannaplato]

First things first. You are incapable of proving your mind claim, therefore I have every reason to view you as just a delusional liar, nothing more.

It's good that you are so forthright with your view of him. If you were expressing a belief, lol, THEN you'd need to justify it.

[Atla]

First things first. You are incapable of proving your mind claim, therefore I have every reason to view you as just a delusional liar, nothing more.

It's good that you are so forthright with your view of him. If you were expressing a belief, lol, THEN you'd need to justify it.

I realized that the previous one ("until" you prove your mind claim) was also suboptimal, because Age's malignant-narcissistic defense mechanisms automatically went with the autistic interpreration that I'm not doubting her ability to prove it, I'm simply saying that we have to wait until she chooses to demonstrate her proof.

[Iwannaplato]

I realized that the previous one ("until" you prove your mind claim) was also suboptimal, because Age's malignant-narcissistic defense mechanisms automatically went with the autistic interpreration that I'm not doubting her ability to prove it, I'm simply saying that we have to wait until she chooses to demonstrate her proof.

Yes. If you don't prove something to Age, he will say you are incapable of doing it. (or he has certainly done this in the past repeatedly)
So, yes, 'until' is allowing a grace that Age doesn't account for in his views. Don't---->Can't

We have beliefs that can change.
He has views that are not beliefs, which also can change.
He has one belief that he refuses to justify. Doesn't---->Can't
So, he can't prove it.

Doesn't---->Can't

If that's unpleasant for him to deal with then perhaps he is approaching learning what it is like to deal with himi.

It's also a false view, of which he has plenty.