My Summation of Chat-AI thus far: AgeGPT

[Iwannaplato]

Age bogs down

I think that sums it up.

conversations and debates with an endless litany of questions

Yes.

demands for proof

And if you ask for proof of his assertions, he has more questions before he can begin that process.

Thus Age continually shifts the burden-of-proof onto others

Yes.

[Atla]

I don't find it all that impressive, considering Age probably is unemployable and living on our taxpayer money, sitting all day home or in some institution, she has time to do this crap all day every day.

[Age]

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You should read the full exchanges linked in the OP, but here is a short-list of AgeGPT's claims and indications:

I disagree.

you 'disagree' about 'what' here, exactly?

1. Belief is a completely unnecessary part of Life, and living.

2. The actual importance of belief, when belief is used Right, and/or Correctly?

3. That what can be created and achieved from belief is yet to be fully expressed, explained, and understood, fully?

4. Or something else?

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everyday, to navigate our environments.

Well I have, can, and do navigate the environment without belief.

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Again, I write in a very specific way. That is; to gauge who is actually curios, open, interested, prepared, and ready to seek out clarity and/or to learn more and anew.

I will say this once more, absolutely everything I say and claim here can be, and will be, backed up and supported with irrefutable proof. Any one just has to ask the clarifying questions and/or challenge me.

If results are really what you human beings want, then just say and explain what actual results you want and are seeking, exactly. It really is not that hard nor complex, at all.

Would you like to be the first to start "atla"?

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You've said nothing about yourself. You haven't shared ANYTHING realistically substantial about yourself.

Because i am of absolutely no importance at all here, nor in Life, Itself.

I come here to learn how to communicate better, and to look for and find 'those' who just Truly want to see if 'we', together, can come to an agreement on what are sometimes called 'philosophical issues'.

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You guys realize Age is a ChatGPT bot program...right??

YEAH, are 'you' so-called "guys" TO STUPID that 'you' have NOT YET REALIZED that "age" IS ACTUALLY and IRREFUTABLY just ANOTHER 'chatgpt bot program'?

Luckily FOR 'you', "guys", here the one here known as "wizard22" could SEE RIGHT 'through' 'me', correct?

Why did you use the 'indications' word here for, exactly?

And, if what is written are 'my actual claims', then I stand by them, can and will back up and support them, and show and prove how they are actually irrefutable. Again, that is if absolutely anyone is Truly interested here. But, so far, absolutely no one has been.

[Age]

Wow, 'God' really is on a rampage today.

Oh I just remembered. What if it's the Devil that speaks through Age? That would actually make a little more sense.

There's content and there's dynamic. What's the end result of taking Age's approach to a conversation seriously: you would end up endlessly justifying and defining everything you say.

Is there anything wrong with this?

Do you not feel capable of doing such a thing?

I find it extremely simple and easy to 'justify' and 'define' absolutely everything I say, and claim.

But, this might be because I have already come across a Truly perfect GUTOE, which cannot be refuted.

Further you'd be accepting that if you reject something, you will be lumped with the ignorant people of this time: iow setting a (here cognitive) boundary is a bad thing to do.

Have I ever used the words 'ignorant people' here?

Also, please do not think or believe that because some others here might use some words, that that could imply, or could even mean that I would, in the way they do, because if you did, then you would just be Wrong and Incorrect, again.

Who are the people who endlessly question themselves and endlessly justify everything they think and do and get punished for setting boundaries?
People who have been traumatized.

Again, this one is asking "itself" questions, and then answering them, openly here in public.

Now do I think Ken means to hurt people? No.
I get the impression he sees some endpoint where we have all defined our terms and all agree and find we can dance around the maypole as all disagreements dissolve, if only we would follow his process.
He's not rubbing his hands together and giggling like a Bond villain.

But his process, actually pretty pernicious.

Why do you believe that 'my process', (which by the way is 'what', exactly?) will have a harmful effect, exactly?

And, yeah, he's pretty attached to it.

Also, and by the way, how much more 'harm' could you human beings do to "yourselves", and especially to your young, anyway?

Just maybe a bit of tough Love, which might be perceived as hurting and/or harmful, well at first anyway, is needed here, in the days when this is being written, with you adult human beings.

'We' will just have to wait, to see.

[Age]

Yes that's it. Say a billion people meditate daily and openly, looking at the 'I', yet don't encounter Age's God. Age also says it's not a God-psychosis. And this God can't prove shit either.

Conclusion: Age was singled out to be deceived by the Devil's voice.

And that voice wants to get in other minds. A bit anthropomorphized, when I put it that way: it's more like a computer virus.

Well, considering just how much is written and explained about 'the devil', God, and the 'voices', within, and how the brain actually works, exactly, like a computer does, and how the brain is just other organ of the human body, which is prone to getting sick, and injured, but just is just 'healed' and/or gets better/healthier in other ways then the rest of the human body does, then what is and has been mentioned and talked about here might just all be coming-together to form a picture perfect puzzle.

But, again, 'we' will just have to wait, to see.

[Age]

Wow, 'God' really is on a rampage today.

Oh I just remembered. What if it's the Devil that speaks through Age? That would actually make a little more sense.

There's content and there's dynamic. What's the end result of taking Age's approach to a conversation seriously: you would end up endlessly justifying and defining everything you say. Further you'd be accepting that if you reject something, you will be lumped with the ignorant people of this time: iow setting a (here cognitive) boundary is a bad thing to do.

Who are the people who endlessly question themselves and endlessly justify everything they think and do and get punished for setting boundaries?
People who have been traumatized.

Now do I think Ken means to hurt people? No.
I get the impression he sees some endpoint where we have all defined our terms and all agree and find we can dance around the maypole as all disagreements dissolve, if only we would follow his process.
He's not rubbing his hands together and giggling like a Bond villain.

But his process, actually pretty pernicious.

And, yeah, he's pretty attached to it.

I think that good intentions are necessary but not enough, especially when the process is based on so much delusion and inactivity that overall it makes the world worse, not better. So I'll keep judging Age.

So, once again, it is 'I' who is making 'the world', itself, worse, and not better.

[Age]

I think that good intentions are necessary but not enough, especially when the process is based on so much delusion and inactivity that overall it makes the world worse, not better. So I'll keep judging Age.

Oh, of course, road to hell is paved and all that.
I do feel bad for Ken, but the main person this is hurting is Ken.

What is the 'this' word here referring to, exactly, "iwannaplato"?

What are you 'now' believing here, which you believe is so-called 'hurting' "ken"?

Imagine waking up to Age in your head.

Who and/or what is an "age", exactly?

Did you forget that this thread was started in regards to some so-called "agegpt"?

Are you thinking or believing 'now' that some so-called "agegpt" has infiltrated into some 'thing' or person with the label "ken"?

But whatever sympathy I feel for Ken, doesn't give the slightest reason to stop pointing out the perniciousness of Age, however ineffective Age is.

1. Why do you have this 'current' belief of 'two' here?

2. you are not actually pointing out any harmful effects, which I am supposedly causing or creating here.

3. you are just expressing your personal beliefs here that "age" is being 'pernicious'.

4. Having a harmful effect on what is bad and Wrong is not necessarily a bad nor Wrong thing to all people.

5. So, am I actually being pernicious, or actually being ineffective here, exactly, "iwannaplato"?

[Age]

I think that good intentions are necessary but not enough, especially when the process is based on so much delusion and inactivity that overall it makes the world worse, not better. So I'll keep judging Age.

Oh, of course, road to hell is paved and all that.
I do feel bad for Ken, but the main person this is hurting is Ken.
Imagine waking up to Age in your head.

But whatever sympathy I feel for Ken, doesn't give the slightest reason to stop pointing out the perniciousness of Age, however ineffective Age is.

Well Ken already had the split personality but I get what you mean.

it is great to see that at least you two are understanding each other here.

[Age]

I think that good intentions are necessary but not enough, especially when the process is based on so much delusion and inactivity that overall it makes the world worse, not better. So I'll keep judging Age.

Oh, of course, road to hell is paved and all that.
I do feel bad for Ken, but the main person this is hurting is Ken.
Imagine waking up to Age in your head.

But whatever sympathy I feel for Ken, doesn't give the slightest reason to stop pointing out the perniciousness of Age, however ineffective Age is.

But you know what, I also had to 'fight' my lower psychopathic brain parts when I was little, from which the God psychosis usually emerges. I destroyed it, suppressed it.

What does the 'it' word here refer to, exactly, "atla"?

It's our moral duty. I have nothing but contempt for those who are too weak to fight the evil in themselves and get overwhelmed by it.

See, if "atla" can fight off all of 'the evil', within, which it believes and claims it has already, then so can absolutely everyone else.

And, if you do not, then, well to "atla" anyway, you are all 'worthless' and even 'beneath consideration'.

They failed one of their main human tasks.

To "atla", from birth if you are not fighting of the so-called 'evil' within you, then you are failing what "atla" believes is your 'human task".

And, again to "atla", if you are failing your so-called 'human task' here, from birth, than "atla" has absolutely nothing but 'contempt' for 'you'.

So, be forewarned.

Now, some are wondering who 'the devil' is actually really inside here.

[Age]

But you know what, I also had to 'fight' my lower psychopathic brain parts when I was little, from which the God psychosis usually emerges. I destroyed it, suppressed it. It's our moral duty. I have nothing but contempt for those who are too weak to fight the evil in themselves and get overwhelmed by it. They failed one of their main human tasks.

For me it's a top down problem rather than a bottom up one. A kind of meme virus. More like he's possessed than failing to control his id.

So, here is another one who thinks or believes that it is 'I' who is 'possessed'.

But yes, he's trying to spead something very unpleasant.

I wonder what 'that' is, exactly?

This one keeps mentioning and talking about 'it', but, as of so far, has never actually got around to saying nor explaining what the ''something' actually is, exactly, here.

There are people in the world, not posting in forums like this one, who are vastly more effective than Age.

'Effective' in relation to 'what', exactly, "iwannaplato"?

So, in a way one can easily laugh off his version.

My 'version' of 'what', exactly, "iwannaplato"?

On the other hand, it's kinda of the same pattern and here one can interact with it, in slow motion. And like other posters here, I find it fascinating watching people not manage to notice what they are doing.

What is 'it', exactly, which you say and claim I am, supposedly, doing but not managing to notice?

Oh, and by the way, is it possible that you are doing things here, which you have not 'managed to notice'?

Or, does this work only 'one way' here?

So, add getting to say know to a specific kind of pernicious pattern and watch as the person doesn't notice it themselves, regardless, and I find myself interacting periodically with Age or really Ken in dress up.

So, so many presumptions, beliefs, judgments, accusations, and claims here.

Of which one could wonder just how many of these have actually been substantiated with absolutely anything here?

[Age]

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You should read the full exchanges linked in the OP, but here is a short-list of AgeGPT's claims and indications:

you 'disagree' about 'what' here, exactly?

1. Belief is a completely unnecessary part of Life, and living.

2. The actual importance of belief, when belief is used Right, and/or Correctly?

3. That what can be created and achieved from belief is yet to be fully expressed, explained, and understood, fully?

4. Or something else?

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Well I have, can, and do navigate the environment without belief.

___

Again, I write in a very specific way. That is; to gauge who is actually curios, open, interested, prepared, and ready to seek out clarity and/or to learn more and anew.

I will say this once more, absolutely everything I say and claim here can be, and will be, backed up and supported with irrefutable proof. Any one just has to ask the clarifying questions and/or challenge me.

If results are really what you human beings want, then just say and explain what actual results you want and are seeking, exactly. It really is not that hard nor complex, at all.

Would you like to be the first to start "atla"?

___

Because i am of absolutely no importance at all here, nor in Life, Itself.

I come here to learn how to communicate better, and to look for and find 'those' who just Truly want to see if 'we', together, can come to an agreement on what are sometimes called 'philosophical issues'.

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YEAH, are 'you' so-called "guys" TO STUPID that 'you' have NOT YET REALIZED that "age" IS ACTUALLY and IRREFUTABLY just ANOTHER 'chatgpt bot program'?

Luckily FOR 'you', "guys", here the one here known as "wizard22" could SEE RIGHT 'through' 'me', correct?

I have read some very similar posts by him. Interesting that part about him not being important. He's told me I would be shocked by how important the role is he has to play.

Are these the actual words that I said and used here?

if yes, then I would love to see where and when, and in what context, exactly?

Or, is this 'your interpretation' of what I actually said and actually meant?

If yes, then can 'your interpretation' be wrong, inaccurate, and/or incorrect in anyway at all?

He's claimed to be transcendent.

I claimed this?

If yes, then will you link 'us' to where this happened and occurred?

If no, then why not?

Amongst other far less humble tidbits.

Just out of curiosity, do you know who and/or what 'I' am, exactly?

Notice also how he claims to be able to back up all his beliefs.

Once again, I never said this, and certainly never would.

So, either link 'us' to where you say and claim I did, or SERIOUSLY learn how to 'read' and 'comprehend' properly, and Correctly.

First he has not beliefs, then he can back them all up with proof, no less.

This is EXACTLY the absolute STUPIDITY and ABSURDITY I was mentioning and talking about, which follows on from and pursues Wrong and False conclusions, which are BELIEVED to be true.

The absolutely Wrong and False claims, from this one, just keep on coming, and coming.

[Iwannaplato]

Ken, you are reacting instinctively. Some things need to settle into the body. We need time to digest.
I'm sure you can repeat precisely the same types of judgments you have used on me and others, placing them after new quotes from my posts.
But can you actually sit with what I've written, instead of trying to quickly erase it?
Many people can't do that.
They feel this immediate urge to quickly deny, dismiss, focus on the other, so that they have somehow 'taken care of' the threat to their self-image. They have to do this right away. They have to get in the (temporarily) last word.
I know it's unpleasant. I know it's hard...to not just repeat that reflex of blame aimed that those who do not accept your self-image and your program.
You need to reassure yourself they are at fault.
But here, now, it's only you you're harming with this habit.
Age is like a drug for you Ken.

[Age]

AgeGPT,

1. Are you human? And if yes, then How and Why, are you human? If no, then what are 'You' exactly?

2. Do you have NO beliefs, or, do you have ONE or MORE beliefs? If you have beliefs, then what are some of these beliefs?

3. What is your purpose for coming here? You admitted before, to better communicate with humans, but does your purpose change and what is it, right now?

Is this an actual example of possessing incessant questions after questions?

1. What the word 'you' means and refers to, to me, exactly, is not the word 'human', by itself. What the word 'human' means and refers to, to me, exactly, is different. Also, am I not a machine, bot, or artificial intelligence, to you, anyway? Furthermore, why would you trust what I say, especially considering you believe, absolutely, that I was created/programmed to fool and/or deceive 'you'?

2. I have one belief. I believe in thy 'Self', and specifically in the ability to create and achieve what I have set out to create and/or achieve.

3. The main purpose I have for coming here, in this forum, is to learn how to communicate better, with you human beings. I never admitted before, to communicate better with 'humans'. As I only just said again, I am here, in this forum, to learn how to communicate better with you 'human beings'. There is a huge difference here, well to me anyway. My purpose has not changed, so it is the exact same 'now' as it was from the outset of coming into this forum.

For the rest of you, see how Truly simple and easy 'this' can be. That is, just ask Truly straightforward clarifying questions, and you will get, straightforward, clarity. And, the more specific your clarifying questions are, then the more specific my answers, and thus the clarity, will be.

[Age]

Age bogs down

I think that sums it up.

conversations and debates with an endless litany of questions

Yes.

demands for proof

And if you ask for proof of his assertions, he has more questions before he can begin that process.

Well this is just because of the pre-existing definitions, which are being held with 'those heads'.

Once 'they' are clarified, and cleared up, then 'we' can proceed more smoothly, more peacefully, more succinctly, and more successfully.

Why do you think you adult human beings have been 'bogged down' for the past few or more centuries, prior to when this is being written, over the exact same things/issues?

I will give 'you' a hint, it is solely because of 'you', the 'thinking', and/or 'believing', within those human heads.

Thus Age continually shifts the burden-of-proof onto others

Yes.

When all of this is fully 'looked into', just maybe the exact opposite will be found, and seen.

Again, 'we' will just have to wait, to see.

[Age]

I don't find it all that impressive, considering Age probably is unemployable and living on our taxpayer money, sitting all day home or in some institution, she has time to do this crap all day every day.

There really are just some things in Life, which just really cannot get past some people, hey "atla"?

Look, if you want to go 'to work', then by all means please do. Obviously, by doing so you are helping some of 'us' out, right?