Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2024 5:59 pm
I've pretty much stopped reading what you write...I maybe glance at half, because most is pretty clearly nonsense...and sometimes I don't even bother to respond to you at all. And that's a product of two things: one, that
you're always ad hom, so not relevant
To be more accurate, you have stopped
thinking. But I want to make it clear that, given what you are protecting, I recommend that you keep on in that vein.
It has been established that there is, indeed, a fallacious use of ad hominem. It has also been established that the use of ad hominem is not necessarily, and not always, fallacious. My assertion is that in the main my use of attacks of the man, or attacks directed against traits and tendencies of men, is appropriate. But I do not say that it is non-problematic. Also, and most of the time, if I bring out a critique that is of intellectual errancy or some internal, mental defect, I mention that these are defects from which we all suffer
in degrees.
Now, and with that said, I am convinced that you are, as a result of your defects, what I can only describe as a pathological liar. The method of analysis by which I arrive at this is pretty simple, indeed simplistic: You are a man who
actually believes that at some point in time, and in real history, God dropped Adam & Eve into the Garden.
You believe it not because you have *reasoned out* the high probability that it is true, but only because it is written in Genesis. We know now -- we know beyond all possibility of doubt; we know as an absolutely certain, inarguable thing, and a thing that does not require debate at any level, ever -- that this is not the case. Yet you force yourself to believe it. You believe against all reason and reasonability that this now understood to be insane view is a story about genuine Earth history.
You
wish things to be like this:
"I have my view, my *evidence*, my position (the God dropping Adam & Eve fully formed into the Garden at a specific point in real time), and you have yours (that this is not true history, and that life on the planet has evolved over billions of years). Each of our views (you actually believe) are equal to one another. Thus I come into this space and demand to be treated seriously and that all here pretend that there can be any sort of *debate* about these issues".
When someone [inevitably] says:
You lunatic! I am not going to debate your dumb ass about this! If you hold to such a view there is something wrong with your perceiving mind!"
You then get miffed, imagine yourself as being *persecuted* (as Jesus Christ said His followers would), and you declare such statements as being
ad hominem, and as a result you refuse to engage with all the reasonable, reasoned arguments that they present to you along with their frustrated, but necessary, condemnations of your twisted intellectual processes based in Evangelical Christian fanaticism and Bible literalism.
Richard Weaver wrote a book:
Ideas Have Consequences. The title says a great deal. Your twisted, recalcitrant, fanaticism-based notions are ideas that have supreme consequences in our world. So for example you cannot be else but a Christian Zionist because the Israelis are *God's Chosen People" and you are obligated to *support* them. And you have clearly indicated on other threads that this is your position. But you are incapable of seeing how this leads to tremendous moral errors of perception, and immoral and extremely dangerous
consequences. But you do not care.
Here, I point out that you are wedded to a lie. And thus your *belief system* forces you, time and again, to a position of pathological lying. You cannot do otherwise. But you call it *being righteous* and *defending truth* or some high ground. It quickly blends with insane, hallucinated projections that you and people suffering your issues are invested in.
Now, is all this ad hominem fallacy? It is certainly not. It is realistic, involved critique of things going on in our present. And I have demonstrated that my methodology is
sound through comments about the basis of your Christian Zionism. That is just one area.
You suffer a profound disorder of the mind. But there is a larger meaning here: It is quite possible that when any of us, or all of us, are most certain about what we think is *true* that we are actually involved in mental derangement. Do you, you chimpanzee,
understand what I am saying?
Of course you do not! Because if you agreed it would necessarily imply a profound examination of your own belief-system. And that you cannot allow. For reasons that have been carefully explained to you over the months and years.
I’ve explained why.