One nation is a solution for war

[Age]

Then you have to live in a controlled area to make sure you don't harm others. Rehabilitation may be useful! If not you have to live in a controlled area.

Gotta punish wrong-think and wrong-acts, even if the wrong is just a no, I won't.

But it was you, "'henry quirk", who just said and stated that your aim is to misbehave.

Considering that one of your beliefs about something like, 'one is to their own, and not harming, hurting, nor stealing the life, liberty, nor property of another, then why do you now claim that you aim to misbehave, in another's view of what is right and good in Life?

Oh, brave new world that has such people in it!

Why, what do you propose should happen in said world?

Fight? Or, something else?

Why did you use the 'brave' word here?

[Age]

The idea is that within one nation scenario, there will be no war, and no need to spend huge amounts of money on warfare, ... People could be gathered under one flag, social Democracy government, and live and flourish. All the problems you mentioned can be resolved once people are well-educated enough.

- The thread subject title has already been formalized into a working philosophy that defines conditions for one nation, and that has already been proven, and the philosophy is …

- One nation under God, with liberty and justice, for all.

- The evidence of the proof is that such a nation deters war through strength.

- The rational and empirical implication of this evidence is that when a nation is not under God, and when a nation cannot have liberty and justice for all (as is currently being denied via Trump’s persecution), then it will be divided.

Are you implying or meaning here that when a person named "donald trump" was the so-called "leader", then there was liberty and justice for all?

If yes, then what does the word 'all' mean or refer to, exactly?

But, if no, then what are you implying or meaning here, exactly?

- Lincoln knew of this and so allowed the defeated Confederate enemy what dignity he could officially offer in the name of unity of the country into one, and his first agent for that offering was Chamberland, a warrior-person who embodied The Enlightenment, and was well-educated.

- Compare that to Gaza/Israel ... Lincoln demanded unconditional surrender, and now B.N. demands unconditional surrender, and like Lincoln B.N. is pretty well educated, not to mention naturally savvy as objectively measured.

- However, the largesse of Lincoln had its practical limitations, thus the drafting of the fourteeth amendment, which enumerated which public offices that a confederate revolutionary could not hold in the united government of the USA.

[Age]

So, let's recap...

You feel a world united under one government, one State (preferably a socialist democratic one), will stop mass killing (war). In such a united world, all men would be properly educated (en-virtued) by the State. Dissent would be allowed, but the truly unruly (anyone who takes a dim view of the State as educator and oversight and end-all, be-all) would be sequestered away on reservations (for everyone's safety and the State's peace of mind).

Is this a decent summary of your view?

It sounds like it, well from my perspective anyway. But, "bahman" here might say otherwise.

[bahman]

So, let's recap...

You feel a world united under one government, one State (preferably a socialist democratic one), will stop mass killing (war). In such a united world, all men would be properly educated (en-virtued) by the State. Dissent would be allowed, but the truly unruly (anyone who takes a dim view of the State as educator and oversight and end-all, be-all) would be sequestered away on reservations (for everyone's safety and the State's peace of mind).

Is this a decent summary of your view?

Yes, pretty much.

[Sculptor]

All the war is the result of the conflict of interest between nations. One nation and the problem of conflict is resolved. So there will be peace.

So how are you going to bring about World Government without conflict?
Are you ready to be ruled by China?

[bahman]

All the war is the result of the conflict of interest between nations. One nation and the problem of conflict is resolved. So there will be peace.

So how are you going to bring about World Government without conflict?

Well, I think it would take a while until people are convinced to live under one flag. This is a spark. It either dies away or leads to something interesting, a motion of people for one nation.

Are you ready to be ruled by China?

Of course not. I am thinking of a Social Democracy as a proper form of government.

[bahman]

Maybe not war where planes are flown over each other's heads and bombs are dropped on them, but surely even you have observed conflict, bickering, arguing, fighting, and/or even killing within families, which can be classed as a form of 'war', and maybe even observed this more so in the so-called and Wrongly named 'civilized nations', correct "bahman"?

Do you see such a conflict in civilized nations like Germany, Sweden, Norway, and the like?

1. Yes I see conflict in those named nations/countries/parcels of land on earth.

2. What you might call 'civilized' in the days when this is being written is certainly not considered 'civilized', to others.

They are the best at the current stage.

Or, have you never observed nor experienced any of this at all?

Also, the forcing of people with completely opposing 'beliefs' to live, together, under the banner of 'one nation' could cause and/or create even more conflict, which might end up in more warring than before.

I am not talking about forcing.

Well how else to get people to live under the banner of 'one nation'?

By convincing them.

I am talking about teaching people about one nation and its profits so they naturally agree and live within one flag.

Of course when greed and selfishness has been extinguished from adult human beings, and they are again living without these things and have learned how to live in peace and harmony with one another, then, and only then, all of humankind can start living together, as One, in a Truly voluntarily agreed upon and accepted 'Self-governing society', or a 'One nation earth'. Until then informing of, or teaching about, 'profits' will only lead adults to, individually, want a share, or a piece, of 'those profits'. Which is and was, obviously, a huge part of the reason why you adult human beings, in the days when this is being written, grew up and are 'now' causing and creating such a Truly conflicted, war-torn, pollution-riddled, and very stressful 'world' and existence.

By the way what do you consider is the best 'one flag' to live within?

Do you mean the type of government?

And, how many other people will actually 'naturally agree with' and 'want to live' within 'that one flag'?

Hopefully more as time passes.

[henry quirk]

So, let's recap...

You feel a world united under one government, one State (preferably a socialist democratic one), will stop mass killing (war). In such a united world, all men would be properly educated (en-virtued) by the State. Dissent would be allowed, but the truly unruly (anyone who takes a dim view of the State as educator and oversight and end-all, be-all) would be sequestered away on reservations (for everyone's safety and the State's peace of mind).

Is this a decent summary of your view?

Yes, pretty much.

Then I'll pass on your utopia.

[bahman]

So, let's recap...

You feel a world united under one government, one State (preferably a socialist democratic one), will stop mass killing (war). In such a united world, all men would be properly educated (en-virtued) by the State. Dissent would be allowed, but the truly unruly (anyone who takes a dim view of the State as educator and oversight and end-all, be-all) would be sequestered away on reservations (for everyone's safety and the State's peace of mind).

Is this a decent summary of your view?

Yes, pretty much.

Then I'll pass on your utopia.

Hmm... What do you mean? Not interested?

[henry quirk]

Hmm... What do you mean? Not interested?

Actively opposed.

[bahman]

Hmm... What do you mean? Not interested?

Actively opposed.

This is an answer to the first question or the second one?

[henry quirk]

Me: I'll pass on your utopia.

You: Not interested?

Me: Actively opposed.

Clear now?

[bahman]

Me: I'll pass on your utopia.

You: Not interested?

Me: Actively opposed.

Clear now?

Yes, it is clear, and thanks for the participation.

[Immanuel Can]

All the war is the result of the conflict of interest between nations. One nation and the problem of conflict is resolved. So there will be peace.

Awfully naive.

Which "nation" do we all get to be? American? British? Chinese? Brazilian? Is there just one "nation" in any of these? And what do we do with the indigenous cultures, which may not be so keen on becoming Russian or whatever?

And it means that all the world's "nations" have to surrender all their sovereignty, values, culture, language, traditions and interests so the rest of us can have the world our way...

Nice solution: its called "tyrannical totalitarianism." And yes, it would produce "peace" if it succeeds in crushing the life out of all the other "nations" of the world.

[henry quirk]

Me: I'll pass on your utopia.

You: Not interested?

Me: Actively opposed.

Clear now?

Yes, it is clear, and thanks for the participation.