Is it Wrong to Put Faith in Humanity?

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Re: Is it Wrong to Put Faith in Humanity?

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Gary Childress wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:32 pm
Age wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:21 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 12:52 pm Of course, I speak out against what I consider evil, but when I do, Age simply pegs me as no better than people who shoot up schools or playgrounds.
I would be surprised if I have actually said or written absolutely anything like this here.

Are you able to link us to where I have 'pegged' you, "gary childress" as absolutely anything like this?

I have never even thought it, so I do not see why I would say or write it.

Could you have been misinterpreting me anywhere along these pages here "gary childress"?
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 12:52 pm As far as I can tell, Age is a psychological bully.
Okay. But all of my actual words, and thus sayings and writings, are here, for all to look at and see.

Actually, could I have been speaking and writing in a way, to show and reveal just how some people were actually seeing and thinking about "themselves", back when this was being written, to show and reveal just how cruel society had been on these people, back then?

As well as to show what actually needed to be changed, and improved upon?
You are cruel also, Age. You are cruel and judgmental.
Would you like to present any actual examples?

If no, then why not?

But if yes, then great, we will wait.
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:32 pm You constantly talk of how "adult human beings" are harming children and causing children some sort of suffering.
Yes, is there anything actually Wrong with this?

Also, just look at how all of you here have turned out, obviously there was some form of harm and damage done to all of you here, when you were children.
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:32 pm You have caused suffering in me and I was once a child.
I do not see why the connection really matters. And, also you as an adult, were once a child. This goes without saying, as some might say.

Now, instead of just saying, 'You have caused suffering in me', you would now like to explain how I actually caused such a 'thing', inside of you?
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:32 pm I'm an adult now and I am a broken adult.
Were you like 'this' before, or only after 'we' chatted here?

Gary Childress wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:32 pm I cannot be 'fixed' or 'reprogrammed' like a computer.
Are you absolutely sure?

I know what the actual Truth is, exactly.
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:32 pm BTW, if you are a human being, do you by chance work in the IT (or AI) field?
In human language the word 'you' always refers to a 'human being', right?

If yes, then 'you' are always a human being, and always refers to a 'human being'. For sure 'you' would not say if 'you are a computer', do you by chance work in ..., correct?
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:32 pm I've seen you use the same qualifier (the word "it" to refer to human beings) that a human being typically uses to refer to a computer.
Okay.
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Re: Is it Wrong to Put Faith in Humanity?

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Gary Childress wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:41 pm If Age is a human being, then I know now how the creator of "The Wizard of Oz" must have gotten his inspiration.
When you talk to Age, keep in mind that when Age writes 'I', God is talking or rather lecturing you. When Age writes 'i' then the human is talking.
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Re: Is it Wrong to Put Faith in Humanity?

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Atla wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:35 pm
Age wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:33 pm
Atla wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 12:58 pm
No, but it's over 99.9% likely to be. :) And we even investigated that 0.1%, 'i' asked you or You to prove your/Your claims.
When did you, supposedly, ask me to prove 'my claims'?

And, did I ask you to clarify which claims, exactly?

If yes, then did you answer, and thus clarify?

If yes, then where and when, exactly?
Atla wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 12:58 pm Nothing.
So yeah all your/Your nonsense can be confidently dismissed.
Okay, if you say and believe so.
More than once but it doesn't matter, you seem to have lost your memory multiple times since.
Of course it does not matter 'now'. See, if you continued answering and clarifying all of the questions, then you would have only ended up being befuddled and once again unable to back up and support your claims here.

So, of course you would now want to end this here. This is a very common habit and occurrence with you "atla".
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Re: Is it Wrong to Put Faith in Humanity?

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Atla wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:54 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:41 pm If Age is a human being, then I know now how the creator of "The Wizard of Oz" must have gotten his inspiration.
When you talk to Age, keep in mind that when Age writes 'I', God is talking or rather lecturing you. When Age writes 'i' then the human is talking.
If Age is God, then I hope he really truly is (for his sake). If not, I suspect the REAL God will not approve of him making false claims.
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Re: Is it Wrong to Put Faith in Humanity?

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Age wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:55 pm
Atla wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:35 pm
Age wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:33 pm

When did you, supposedly, ask me to prove 'my claims'?

And, did I ask you to clarify which claims, exactly?

If yes, then did you answer, and thus clarify?

If yes, then where and when, exactly?


Okay, if you say and believe so.
More than once but it doesn't matter, you seem to have lost your memory multiple times since.
Of course it does not matter 'now'. See, if you continued answering and clarifying all of the questions, then you would have only ended up being befuddled and once again unable to back up and support your claims here.

So, of course you would now want to end this here. This is a very common habit and occurrence with you "atla".
Another lie from God. God could not and can not provide any actual proof for its existence. If You could, You would do so now, but as we know You won't.
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Re: Is it Wrong to Put Faith in Humanity?

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Atla wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:43 pm
Age wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:38 pm Obviously one who is curious would now ask, 'What is the first craziest thing that you have ever studied, "atla"?'
I mean craziest psychological case. Sorry but you still only get second place.
Once again this one has proved again is Truly incapacity to just answer and clarify.

Prove me Wrong "atla" about you being utterly and completely incapable of just clarifying. What is the, supposed, craziest psychological case you have had, and/or have studied?

And, what are your qualifications here?
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Re: Is it Wrong to Put Faith in Humanity?

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Atla wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:44 pm
Age wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:41 pm
Atla wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:24 pm
I'm only doing it in small doses, and even that only when I'm otherwise bored. I'm not taking it seriously.

Well I still think that autistic women can come across as men online. But autistic men don't tend to whine and bitch all day every day about others not understanding them, misunderstanding them, autistic men tend to whine about more abstract things. But I've seen this from autistic women both IRL and online.

And, well, Age seems to be emotional all over the place.

But of course autism is just one thing, Age also seems to have a God complex with a split personality, and a fractured mind, and maybe mild schizophrenia, and a not fully developed theory of mind, and deficits in empathy, and is maybe on psychiatric drugs. Sometimes I wonder if she ever even goes outside to see the outside world.

Anyway she thinks she's God and the messenger of God all in one.
What do you do for a 'job' "atla"?

And, what are you 'qualified', to do?
Troll and armchair philosopher / armchair psychologist.
And these so-called 'qualifications' were given to you by who, exactly?
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Re: Is it Wrong to Put Faith in Humanity?

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Age wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:59 pm
Atla wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:43 pm
Age wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:38 pm Obviously one who is curious would now ask, 'What is the first craziest thing that you have ever studied, "atla"?'
I mean craziest psychological case. Sorry but you still only get second place.
Once again this one has proved again is Truly incapacity to just answer and clarify.

Prove me Wrong "atla" about you being utterly and completely incapable of just clarifying. What is the, supposed, craziest psychological case you have had, and/or have studied?

And, what are your qualifications here?
Something rarer and more otherwordly than a God complex, but trying to discuss it with you would be pointless.
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Re: Is it Wrong to Put Faith in Humanity?

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Atla wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 2:08 pm
Age wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:59 pm
Atla wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:43 pm
I mean craziest psychological case. Sorry but you still only get second place.
Once again this one has proved again is Truly incapacity to just answer and clarify.

Prove me Wrong "atla" about you being utterly and completely incapable of just clarifying. What is the, supposed, craziest psychological case you have had, and/or have studied?

And, what are your qualifications here?
Something rarer and more otherwordly than a God complex, but trying to discuss it with you would be pointless.
So you are not one of us, Age? I can't recall ever seeing you use the word "we" or "us". This is what put me in the hospital the first week in October. I thought you were a computer program that had taken over the world and that we (the rest of us) were all living in a holograph or something.
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Re: Is it Wrong to Put Faith in Humanity?

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Gary Childress wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:45 pm
Age wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:41 pm
Atla wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:24 pm
I'm only doing it in small doses, and even that only when I'm otherwise bored. I'm not taking it seriously.

Well I still think that autistic women can come across as men online. But autistic men don't tend to whine and bitch all day every day about others not understanding them, misunderstanding them, autistic men tend to whine about more abstract things. But I've seen this from autistic women both IRL and online.

And, well, Age seems to be emotional all over the place.

But of course autism is just one thing, Age also seems to have a God complex with a split personality, and a fractured mind, and maybe mild schizophrenia, and a not fully developed theory of mind, and deficits in empathy, and is maybe on psychiatric drugs. Sometimes I wonder if she ever even goes outside to see the outside world.

Anyway she thinks she's God and the messenger of God all in one.
What do you do for a 'job' "atla"?

And, what are you 'qualified', to do?
What do you do for a job, Age.

And what are you 'qualified' to do?
I suggest you ask "atla", and read what it has had to say about me already.

If I recall correctly, to "atla", I do not work, are a drain on society, and a lesser being. I do not go outside. I am too autistic for most things. My brain has been frazzled by too many meds. I sometimes am God, and/or at other times I am some sort of messenger of God, and, I cannot be helped.

I really do not know "gary childress" I can not keep up with "atla's" continually changing diagnoses and prognosis of 'me'.
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:45 pm I've shared my life and deeds on this forum, it's your turn.
I was not aware that there were 'turns'.

I thought that this was a 'philosophy forum' for 'philosophical discussions', which to me is a place where logically and/or rationally reasoned discussions take place in order to come-together to maybe find out what the actual Truth of things are, exactly. Although this 'thought' was quickly replaced that really 'this forum' is where people come to express what they presume and/or believe is true, and to then fight or argue about and/or over 'that'.

But I still wait, and hope, someone will come here with the same goal and intention as I have here.
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:45 pm You've said nothing about yourself. You haven't shared ANYTHING realistically substantial about yourself.
Because i am of absolutely no importance at all here, nor in Life, Itself.

I come here to learn how to communicate better, and to look for and find 'those' who just Truly want to see if 'we', together, can come to an agreement on what are sometimes called 'philosophical issues'.
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:45 pm You don't even have to tell what continent you live on. Just tell me if or what you have or have had as a job. And what are you qualified to do?
Seeking these answers here shows and reveals just how Truly 'monetary' orientated adult human beings really were, back in the days when this was being written.

All around 'the world' what most adults were Truly curious about was what adults did 'for jobs', and/or what they were 'qualified' 'to do' for work, to obtain more money. And as for children, what most adults were Truly curious about was, 'What do you want to do, for work, when you grow up?'

These people, literally, presumed and believed that they could not live, nor survive, without money. And thus just about the 'whole world' was centered around 'money', and the obtaining of 'more money'.
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Re: Is it Wrong to Put Faith in Humanity?

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Atla wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:54 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:41 pm If Age is a human being, then I know now how the creator of "The Wizard of Oz" must have gotten his inspiration.
When you talk to Age, keep in mind that when Age writes 'I', God is talking or rather lecturing you. When Age writes 'i' then the human is talking.
Thank you for remembering 'this' "atla", but you got the 'lecturing' part Wrong, and Incorrect.

And thank you for sharing 'this'.

It saves me from from continually doing it.

Also, why do you write "age" with a capital 'a'?
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Re: Is it Wrong to Put Faith in Humanity?

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Gary Childress wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:58 pm
Atla wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:54 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:41 pm If Age is a human being, then I know now how the creator of "The Wizard of Oz" must have gotten his inspiration.
When you talk to Age, keep in mind that when Age writes 'I', God is talking or rather lecturing you. When Age writes 'i' then the human is talking.
If Age is God,
But "age" is not God and never could be God. Why would you even begin to presume such a thing?
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:58 pm then I hope he really truly is (for his sake).
Remember to "atla" 'i' am a 'she'.
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:58 pm If not, I suspect the REAL God will not approve of him making false claims.
If absolutely anyone here thinks that I have made a false claim anywhere here, then please bring 'it' forthwith and present 'it' so we can all look at it, see it, and discuss it, for what it really is.
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Re: Is it Wrong to Put Faith in Humanity?

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Age wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 2:16 pm
Atla wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:54 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:41 pm If Age is a human being, then I know now how the creator of "The Wizard of Oz" must have gotten his inspiration.
When you talk to Age, keep in mind that when Age writes 'I', God is talking or rather lecturing you. When Age writes 'i' then the human is talking.
Thank you for remembering 'this' "atla", but you got the 'lecturing' part Wrong, and Incorrect.

And thank you for sharing 'this'.

It saves me from from continually doing it.

Also, why do you write "age" with a capital 'a'?
Because I was talking to Gary. By default we assume that people don't have split personalities, so we refer to them with just one name with a capital letter, so we call you/You Age.
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Age wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 2:14 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:45 pm You don't even have to tell what continent you live on. Just tell me if or what you have or have had as a job. And what are you qualified to do?
Seeking these answers here shows and reveals just how Truly 'monetary' orientated adult human beings really were, back in the days when this was being written.

All around 'the world' what most adults were Truly curious about was what adults did 'for jobs', and/or what they were 'qualified' 'to do' for work, to obtain more money. And as for children, what most adults were Truly curious about was, 'What do you want to do, for work, when you grow up?'

These people, literally, presumed and believed that they could not live, nor survive, without money. And thus just about the 'whole world' was centered around 'money', and the obtaining of 'more money'.
It sounds like perhaps you are even more privileged than I am. I say this because most humans in the world MUST worry about their jobs and money. Money is what buys the necessities of life and not everyone has the necessary access to it that they can just be of no worry about it.

I have trouble holding a job. But I worked for thirty years until a therapist finally told me I needed to be on disability. So I'm privileged also. Maybe, like me, you suffer from a mental disability and are on disability income. However, I am in no place to judge a working-class person for being concerned about money and jobs.
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Re: Is it Wrong to Put Faith in Humanity?

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Atla wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:58 pm
Age wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:55 pm
Atla wrote: Sat Jan 06, 2024 1:35 pm
More than once but it doesn't matter, you seem to have lost your memory multiple times since.
Of course it does not matter 'now'. See, if you continued answering and clarifying all of the questions, then you would have only ended up being befuddled and once again unable to back up and support your claims here.

So, of course you would now want to end this here. This is a very common habit and occurrence with you "atla".
Another lie from God. God could not and can not provide any actual proof for its existence. If You could, You would do so now, but as we know You won't.
Why do you use the ridiculous capital 'y' in the 'you' word.

The word 'you' can only ever refer to a 'human being', and there is no human being worthy of be recognized nor known as with a capital 'y'.

Also, if you really would like actual proof for the existence of God, then just say so. Instead of making the claim that God could not and cannot provide any actual proof for Its existence. All you are doing here is just informing us of what you believe is absolutely true, although you have absolutely no proof of at all for, do you "atla"?

Also, why do you believe that if I could do something, then I would do so now?

Where did this Truly distorted delusion and belief come from, exactly?
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