The USA and Israel

[Iwannaplato]

I think Jews are waking-up to the unpleasant reality in the West...that their Liberal-Lefty golems don't have their backs after all. It puts worldwide Jewry in a precarious situation, having to reassess political allies and reposition their mountains of gold. I believe worldwide Jewry might shift to the hard-right after this affair, strengthening US populists like Donald Trump, who have consistently backed Jews and Israel, while the Liberal-Left wavers and concedes on the point. Either way, Jews are acting emotionally and irrationally at this point. I don't think they care about public opinion anymore.

It's great that you have so much confidence in your ability to read the minds of people you loathe. Must be hard seeing Trump doesn't share your anti-semitism.

[Wizard22]

t's great that you have so much confidence in your ability to read the minds of people you loathe. Must be hard seeing Trump doesn't share your anti-semitism.

What part of what I said is anti-semitic?

[Iwannaplato]

t's great that you have so much confidence in your ability to read the minds of people you loathe. Must be hard seeing Trump doesn't share your anti-semitism.

What part of what I said is anti-semitic?

Bringing 'mountains of gold' into a post about war is a cliche anti-semitic way of referring to Jews. But your antisemitism has taken many forms since you came here and I'm not reacting to just that post. A little taste:

I thought we cleared this up already, peabrained little moshe?

I believe genetics is a very deep topic, that most people are scared about, because of the negative attention it draws from Neurotic Anglo-Jews like Flash.

Jewish neuroticism in all its glory folks... White peoples' brains must be so perplexing to you.

[Wizard22]

Bringing 'mountains of gold' into a post about war is a cliche anti-semitic way of referring to Jews.

They always call you "anti-semite" but they never call you "wrong". Weird.

I reserve the Philosophical Right, to criticize international Jewry without being Anti-Semitic...sorry Ivanna, you're just not privileged enough.

[Iwannaplato]

Bringing 'mountains of gold' into a post about war is a cliche anti-semitic way of referring to Jews.

They always call you "anti-semite" but they never call you "wrong". Weird.

I reserve the Philosophical Right, to criticize international Jewry without being Anti-Semitic...sorry Ivanna, you're just not privileged enough.

1) Any criticism was at best implicit in mountains of Gold, though I suppose you could be so inept you think you mounted some kind of critique that wasn't playing into anti-semitic cliches 2) the quotes I took from elsewhere are not critical of international Jewry. LOL.

It'll be interesting to see if the people in this thread, who see Nazis everywhere, and everyone who disagrees with them about anything they think is aiding genocide,
will actually call out a direct anti-semite.

Oh, you're not right about FlashDangerPants being Jewish, by the way. LOL.

I know you think those quotes aimed at him are noble, fact-filled critiques of International Jewry....lol.

[Wizard22]

I'm not a "direct anti-semite". You're pulling my arguments against FlashDpants, which were said specifically due to his emotional reaction which I half-serious claimed that Volodymyr Zelensky was blood-sacrificing the Ukranian nation, in a great demonic ritual to Satan and Israel. From that point, Dpants followed me around from thread to thread, obsessed. I don't think a normal white person would act that way, hence why and how I picked up on his Jewish identity. I don't care if he's Jewish. I don't care if he's obsessed about my joke.

What I do care about is logical consistency. Most people on this planet, intrinsically defend what they value most. If Dpants is a Ukrainian Jew who cannot allow such a joke, transgression, then so be it. But why do you care so much? The matter was and is between him and I. It doesn't have anything to do with this thread, or my stance on Israel. What matters is what's true, rational, and logically consistent. What matters is what's reasonable and convincing.

So, to reassert, I can criticize the Jewish people and Israeli state all I want, doesn't mean I'm "Anti-Semiticcccc!!!"

Jews are not immune to criticism, teasing, being the butt of a joke, being made fun of.

I understand your loyalty and protection of their interests, as you are a Zionist for them, but Jews can defend themselves. They don't need British goyim doing their work, for them.

[FlashDangerpants]

I half-serious claimed that Volodymyr Zelensky was blood-sacrificing the Ukranian nation, in a great demonic ritual to Satan and Israel.

Which half are you serious about?

[Iwannaplato]

I'm not a "direct anti-semite". You're pulling my arguments against FlashDpants, which were said specifically due to his emotional reaction which I half-serious claimed that Volodymyr Zelensky was blood-sacrificing the Ukranian nation, in a great demonic ritual to Satan and Israel. From that point, Dpants followed me around from thread to thread, obsessed. I don't think a normal white person would act that way, hence why and how I picked up on his Jewish identity. I don't care if he's Jewish. I don't care if he's obsessed about my joke.

What I do care about is logical consistency. Most people on this planet, intrinsically defend what they value most. If Dpants is a Ukrainian Jew who cannot allow such a joke, transgression, then so be it. But why do you care so much? The matter was and is between him and I. It doesn't have anything to do with this thread, or my stance on Israel. What matters is what's true, rational, and logically consistent. What matters is what's reasonable and convincing.

So, to reassert, I can criticize the Jewish people and Israeli state all I want, doesn't mean I'm "Anti-Semiticcccc!!!"

Jews are not immune to criticism, teasing, being the butt of a joke, being made fun of.

Sigh. Do I take this mess as serious flailing or a joke. Hard to tell. It's a public forum, something personal between you and FDP could be handled in.....................a private message. Why do I care if you are anti-semitic? I don't like antisemitism. Just like you I express you dislikes here in the forum. The irony of it coming in a thread where so many people who aren't antisemitic get called out as Nazis, makes it interesting.

I don't think a normal white person would do that.

LOL. See it's sentences like this, in context especially that make it so hard to know if you are joking or not. What's charitable? the judgment that you're inept? I love the way you slide from not caring if he's Jewish, when it's obvious you cared, since you wrote about it a lot. Or you cared to accuse him - as if it is something to accuse someone of - of it because this is some way you think you can annoy people, I don't know. I mean there is so much silliness in your responses, the idea that you're a troll or half trolling, just enjoying trying to upset people is another possible option.

I understand your loyalty and protection of their interests, as you are a Zionist for them, but Jews can defend themselves. They don't need British goyim doing their work, for them.

[/quote]LOL. Now I'm being called a Zionist. And a British one, ta boot.

Anyway, thank you for your response. I don't need to rebut anything, you help me so much.

Keep on staying on topic about the US and Israel. I won't bother you more unless more idiocy arises.

[Wizard22]

Which half are you serious about?

Good question...

[Iwannaplato]

I can certainly see Hamas managing to kill Israelis, but how would they manage to carry out genocide? Against a vastly superior military that cannot be caught off guard again for the foreseeable future.

One can show statistics of how many Israelis and Palestinians have been killed in the last 20 to 25 years. The number of Israelis killed is surprisingly small. Significantly more Palestinians have been killed.

One can show the superiority of Israeli offensive and defensive weapons.

One can show the US sailing their warships into the area at the slightest threat to Israel.

It makes no impact in these discussions.

Well, there's the team,here, that tells us we are Nazis, antisemitic and perpetuating genocide if we question anything about their view on the war. And now I just got called a Zionist, a British one for some reason, by Wizard, because I called him out on his obvious, in print antisemitism and judgments of jews. Not judgments of the state of Israel, but Jews themselves. Will his doing this be called out by our discussion partners as antisemitism or perpetuating genocide?
Who knows?

[Wizard22]

Sigh. Do I take this mess as serious flailing or a joke. Hard to tell. It's a public forum, something personal between you and FDP could be handled in.....................a private message. Why do I care if you are anti-semitic? I don't like antisemitism. Just like you I express you dislikes here in the forum. The irony of it coming in a thread where so many people who aren't antisemitic get called out as Nazis, makes it interesting.

What the hell are you talking about...YOU brought it up! You made it public! You're the one who brought it into this thread, just now...so obviously it's been on your mind.

LOL. See it's sentences like this, in context especially that make it so hard to know if you are joking or not. What's charitable? the judgment that you're inept? I love the way you slide from not caring if he's Jewish, when it's obvious you cared, since you wrote about it a lot. Or you cared to accuse him - as if it is something to accuse someone of - of it because this is some way you think you can annoy people, I don't know. I mean there is so much silliness in your responses, the idea that you're a troll or half trolling, just enjoying trying to upset people is another possible option.

I believe people argue more ferociously over what they actually believe. I believe that Dpants actually cares about Jewish libel, and takes it personally. Again, that signals to me that he's Jewish, not white. That's why he took my joke personally and offensive, instead of feeling it out for what it was.

LOL. Now I'm being called a Zionist. And a British one, ta boot.

Anyway, thank you for your response. I don't need to rebut anything, you help me so much.

Keep on staying on topic about the US and Israel. I won't bother you more unless more idiocy arises.

Buh bye.

[Wizard22]

Well, there's the team,here, that tells us we are Nazis, antisemitic and perpetuating genocide if we question anything about their view on the war. And now I just got called a Zionist, a British one for some reason, by Wizard, because I called him out on his obvious, in print antisemitism and judgments of jews. Not judgments of the state of Israel, but Jews themselves. Will his doing this be called out by our discussion partners as antisemitism or perpetuating genocide?
Who knows?

What a vicious, conniving little sneak you are...?

I called you British because this is a British philosophy forum. It's a natural presumption to make. And you are, in effect, defending Zionism by implication of your Ad Hom attacks.

[Iwannaplato]

Wizard, thankfully your own rebuttal posts often function well enough to support my reactions to them.
Perhaps others will take up your antisemitism. Perhaps not.
But I'm done with the topic for now. Best of luck.

[O-Lucifer]

Which half are you serious about?

Good question...

..much work ahead. U as usual R gettin bogged in details.

[Wizard22]

Wizard, thankfully your own rebuttal posts often function well enough to support my reactions to them.
Perhaps others will take up your antisemitism. Perhaps not.
But I'm done with the topic for now. Best of luck.

So you interrupt my point, smear with "Muh Anti-Semiiiiite!!!" libel, shoot and scoot?

You're a lil bietch, dude. Very cowardly behavior.