Sex and gender

[Harbal]

My comment was directed at your comment. Do you have an argument?

I won't know until I hear someone else's.

Perhaps you should try reading then.

You are probably right, but it can seem like so much effort some times.

[Immanuel Can]

...it's not even clear from what you've written what you're saying the story is.

I don't believe you. I know you do get the point, and you're just obfuscating. So I'm not wasting any more time on that.

"Gender" is a fake concept, (at least in its intended application to human beings). If you don't understand such a clear claim, I don't know what to tell you anymore.

[Immanuel Can]

It isn't necessary for words to have a gender;

And yet, in Spanish, or French, they certainly do. You may not like that, but it's how those languages are.

...why do human beings have fewer rights than things like tables when it comes to being entitled to have a gender?

"Gender" is a nonsense word, not a right. You may as well complain, "How come human beings have fewer rights than streetcars, when they can't be called "modes of transportation"?

[Sculptor]

Right.

Can you picture these gender-ideologues trying to run a farm? "Gee, I have ten cows and no calves...I don't understand...two of my cows identify as bulls..."

You have already failed to undertand the simple concept in the opening post.
It's almost like you can't read.

It's like you can't farm.

I have farmed.
Humans are a bit more complicated than Cows, but even cows demonstrate gender diversity. If you had spent a day on a farm you might have noticed.
But, as usual, you are speaking from your monumental ignornace.

[Immanuel Can]

You have already failed to undertand the simple concept in the opening post.
It's almost like you can't read.

It's like you can't farm.

I have farmed.

Then you know that animals come in two kinds: male and female. And it doesn't matter what they "identify" as.

[Harbal]

It isn't necessary for words to have a gender;

And yet, in Spanish, or French, they certainly do. You may not like that, but it's how those languages are.

I don't mind it in the slightest; why should I? Neither do I mind what gender anyone wants to apply to themselves. If you want to say that only biological women should be allowed to use women only facilities, and participate in women only sport, then I totally agree, but other than things like that, what does it matter?

"Gender" is a nonsense word,

If people use the word to describe an aspect of themselves, and others understand what they mean by it, then the word is functioning. What more can you expect of a word? "God" and "theism" are nonsense words to a lot of people, but you don't seem to have a problem with those.

Don't get me wrong, I couldn't care less about "gender issues", I am just trying to understand your antagonism towards the matter.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

You have already failed to undertand the simple concept in the opening post.
It's almost like you can't read.

It's like you can't farm.

I have farmed.
Humans are a bit more complicated than Cows, but even cows demonstrate gender diversity. If you had spent a day on a farm you might have noticed.
But, as usual, you are speaking from your monumental ignornace.

Oh my. Is there nothing you haven't done, or claimed to have done? No one gives a shit. How do those cows express their 'gender diversity' exactly?

[vegetariantaxidermy]

if you want to say that only women should be allowed to use women only facilities, and participate in women only sport, then I totally agree, but other than things like that, what does it matter?

Then you should be arguing with the clay-headed misogynistic sourpuss instead of sucking up to him. If you don't think men should be in women's facilities and sport then that's about the some total of the women's rights position.
It seems to me that you don't know enough about this to be even commenting. You do realise that MEN are claiming that they ARE WOMEN don't you? And that means WOMEN! I will leave you to work out what that means for women in a practical sense.

ps. A woman is a woman. No embellishment needed.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Argument against Jews? ''I'm Jewish''.

Argument regarding farm animals? ''I used to be a farmer''.

Argument to support the torture of children? ''I know some people with children''.

Argument to support men in women's spaces and sports? ''I like to wear women's clothes''.

Argument to support islamic hatred for gays? ''I know some muslims who don't throw gays off buildings''.

He has the fallacy of the irrelevancy down to a fine art.

[Flannel Jesus]

...it's not even clear from what you've written what you're saying the story is.

I don't believe you. I know you do get the point, and you're just obfuscating. So I'm not wasting any more time on that.

"Gender" is a fake concept, (at least in its intended application to human beings). If you don't understand such a clear claim, I don't know what to tell you anymore.

Nothing you've said prior made it clear that gender is a fake concept. You said gender refers to things like verbs - are verbs, and things like verbs, also fake concepts?

[Sculptor]

It's like you can't farm.

I have farmed.

Then you know that animals come in two kinds: male and female. And it doesn't matter what they "identify" as.

Dumb fuck.
Animals have no langauge, moron.
They don't know what male and female is, and dont much care who they fuck either.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

I have farmed.

Then you know that animals come in two kinds: male and female. And it doesn't matter what they "identify" as.

Dumb fuck.
Animals have no langauge, moron.
They don't know what male and female is, and dont much care who they fuck either.

pssssst Humans are animals

[vegetariantaxidermy]

...it's not even clear from what you've written what you're saying the story is.

I don't believe you. I know you do get the point, and you're just obfuscating. So I'm not wasting any more time on that.

"Gender" is a fake concept, (at least in its intended application to human beings). If you don't understand such a clear claim, I don't know what to tell you anymore.

Nothing you've said prior made it clear that gender is a fake concept. You said gender refers to things like verbs - are verbs, and things like verbs, also fake concepts?

Can you not actually read?

Try this one then. Define what you mean by 'gender'.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

What fun. A bunch of men (most of whom have probably never had sex) telling women what women are.

This takes mansplaining into a whole new realm. Can anyone beat it?

[Harbal]

if you want to say that only women should be allowed to use women only facilities, and participate in women only sport, then I totally agree, but other than things like that, what does it matter?

Then you should be arguing with the clay-headed misogynistic sourpuss instead of sucking up to him.

Maybe I would if his identity weren't such a closely guarded secret.

It seems to me that you don't know enough about this to be even commenting.

If I only commented on things I knew about, there would be no point in my being here. Mmm.

If you don't think men should be in women's facilities and sport then that's about the some total of the women's rights position.

But you give the impression that your objection to men calling themselves women goes beyond that.