Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 10:00 pm
Of course you can. People do that all the time.
That's not a very important point. To my knowledge, nobody claims Israel is without faults. No state is. However, Hamas will not quit, will not surrender, and will not negotiate -- they have declared so. And they will kill all Jews "from the river to the sea." So that's their "resolution" position.
So what's your idea, given that Hamas will not accept any resolution but genocide?
Hamas already said that they would accept a ceasefire if Israel stops the aggression. Israelis killed 21,000 civilians by now. How about stopping aggression which means that Israel stops bombing Gaza and takes its force outside of Gaza?
What happened after the last 'ceasefire'? You need to refresh my memory. I know 'something' happened but can't remember 'what'.
Hamas did wrong and now civilians pay the price. That should be the responsibility of civilized nations, such as Israel if it is really civilized, to come up with a solution to stop the genocide.
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 10:17 pm
Wow, the 'death toll' of Gazan human shields keeps snowballing. Soon there won't be anyone left in Gaza.
Hamas is doing wrong. Israel is doing wrong as well. So what is your point?
bahman wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 10:23 pm
Hamas did wrong
Wow. Good of you to acknowledge that they were 'a bit naughty'.
And Israel is an innocent kid in your opinion. Isn't it?
In this case yeah, it's as 'innocent' as it's possible for it to be. Do you expect it to just forget about the hostages as everyone else 'conveniently' has?
Israel even gave prior warning to give people a chance to evacuate but Hamas was stopping its human shields from leaving. The IDF were having to escort Gazans themselves to protect them from Hamas thugs for fuck sake! Who else would bother?
Wow. Good of you to acknowledge that they were 'a bit naughty'.
And Israel is an innocent kid in your opinion. Isn't it?
In this case yeah, it's as 'innocent' as it's possible for it to be. Do you expect it to just forget about the hostages as everyone else 'conveniently' has?
How about Israel killing 100,000 civilians? When enough is enough? How about not using dumb bombs? How about not cutting electricity and water?...
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 10:37 pm
Israel even gave prior warning to give people a chance to evacuate but Hamas was stopping its human shields from leaving.
Great, how gentle of them!
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 10:37 pm
The IDF were having to escort Gazans themselves to protect them from Hamas thugs for fuck sake! Who else would bother?
bahman wrote: ↑Tue Dec 26, 2023 10:44 pm
Are you a fanatic Jew?
How would being Jewish alter facts? Do you think facts change depending on who's saying them? I'm not Jewish. What difference would it make if I was?
Hamas knew exactly how Israel would react which is why it took the hostages in the first place. If it didn't want Gaza bombed then it could have just returned the hostages. Simple. All of the Gazan deaths are at the hands of Hamas.
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