Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:23 am
I believe that morality is objective: so knowing about that morality is the absolute best thing for all. You think morality is subjective, so the only possible "judge" would be the individual.
The individual (human ego ) is always the centre of it's own sense of self, as a self-realised being, which has it's own sense of control. This sense of self is the only one that can be known to know anything, it's the captain of it's own ship, who gets to judge whether something is right or wrong based on it's own direct experience.
If you start getting into the story that only God is in control, then his human creations become nothing more than God's slaves, who must obey and must worship their creator, or be damned. So God in this instant, is totally all for slavery, since he states very clearly that only he is the Master controller of all that happens in the universe, and that it's not up to man who is walking to even direct his step. And that his created humans are not to serve two masters, never themselves, but only HIM.
And that IC, is one Narcissistic God, the master slaver, and woe betide if anyone else claim to know what only he can know, else we become like Him.
And only man will be to BLAME and blaming creates opposition, it creates the need to defend one's rightful position to the death.
On the other side of the story, as we all know, there's always two sides to every story....
Jung philosophy, states that the I AM, meaning, (the conscious knowing centre of self after self-realisation dawns) says, I AM not what happens to me. I AM what I choose to become. And I AM always what I do, and NOT what I say I will do.
I agree with Jung's philosophical statements.
There is no objective statement that is not subjective to a certain extent, because the minute a thing goes into language it is ipso facto conditioned in it's objectivity.
The conscious knowing centre of self after self-realisation, aka the EGO, where energy flows my attention goes.. can NEVER experience this self as an ''object'' in the objective sense, it can only know the object within it's own subjective mind conceptually.
The epistemological self, are the aspects of self-knowledge acquired through self-reflection that can become objects of investigation in cognitive neuroscience. By contrast, the first-person singular pronoun subjectivity "ontological self" cannot be reflected on, but only sensed or felt in a non-conceptual way that makes it nearly impossible to approach through science, and certainly not by using the methods of reductive materialistic science. The ontological self's apparent unity, simplicity and continuity without content, distinguishes it from the epistemological self, which has various types of content and as such can be studied as an object. The ontological self, though reflexively self-aware, cannot become an object of knowledge in an objective sense.