If God is perfect then He would create the final creature, final world, etc. There was no need for, change, struggle, etc.
Evolution, God made or an accident
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Well, if you agree with me!
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Please refer to the post I made some time ago.
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Actually, bahm, it appears that you are agreeing that there is no God.
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If God were perfect he would have created the final version of all species to begin with. God did not do that. God could not be perfect. If God isn’t perfect he cannot be God. If God cannot be God there can be no God.
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Re: Evolution, God made or an accident
If God were perfect he would have created the final version of all species to begin with. God did not do that. God could not be perfect. If God isn’t perfect he cannot be God. If God cannot be God there can be no God.
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Where do you get that premise from, God has to be perfect? God could be defined as a creator or a being who enforces order in the natural world. None of these definitions require God to be perfect.commonsense wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 1:37 amIf God were perfect he would have created the final version of all species to begin with. God did not do that. God could not be perfect. If God isn’t perfect he cannot be God. If God cannot be God there can be no God.
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Re: Evolution, God made or an accident
Yours are idiosyncratic. Generally an imperfect God is no God.bahman wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:57 amWhere do you get that premise from, God has to be perfect? God could be defined as a creator or a being who enforces order in the natural world. None of these definitions require God to be perfect.commonsense wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 1:37 amIf God were perfect he would have created the final version of all species to begin with. God did not do that. God could not be perfect. If God isn’t perfect he cannot be God. If God cannot be God there can be no God.
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God is perfect is one of your premises that you have prove that is correct.commonsense wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 2:57 pmYours are idiosyncratic. Generally an imperfect God is no God.bahman wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:57 amWhere do you get that premise from, God has to be perfect? God could be defined as a creator or a being who enforces order in the natural world. None of these definitions require God to be perfect.commonsense wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 1:37 am
If God were perfect he would have created the final version of all species to begin with. God did not do that. God could not be perfect. If God isn’t perfect he cannot be God. If God cannot be God there can be no God.
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No, it is a priori according to an acceptable definition of God. God must be perfect or else anyone, e.g. bahman, could be God. And that’s blasphemous.bahman wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:15 pmGod is perfect is one of your premises that you have prove that is correct.commonsense wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 2:57 pmYours are idiosyncratic. Generally an imperfect God is no God.
A priori.
Generally accepted definition.
Blasphemy.
Even if not understood by you, bahman.
Have you ever encountered someone who explicitly agrees with you?
Now reply with a repetition of your unique tenet about God, bahman.
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I don't agree with that definition and I don't think that anyone else could be God given the definition of God I provided.commonsense wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:26 pmNo, it is a priori according to an acceptable definition of God. God must be perfect or else anyone, e.g. bahman, could be God. And that’s blasphemous.bahman wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:15 pmGod is perfect is one of your premises that you have prove that is correct.commonsense wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 2:57 pm
Yours are idiosyncratic. Generally an imperfect God is no God.
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Re: Evolution, God made or an accident
Provide the name of someone who agrees with your premise that God is not perfect. I down-and-dirty-double-dog dare you.bahman wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:55 pmI don't agree with that definition and I don't think that anyone else could be God given the definition of God I provided.commonsense wrote: ↑Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:26 pmNo, it is a priori according to an acceptable definition of God. God must be perfect or else anyone, e.g. bahman, could be God. And that’s blasphemous.