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mickthinks wrote: Mon Dec 18, 2023 7:56 pm Wow! Victor Davis Hanson is brazenly dishonest, isn’t he?
No, he's not a Leftist Democrat Who Hates America.

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Walker wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 5:12 pm
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That's an error in reasoning.

There's no evidence of that because non-ignorant non-haters such as myself and others who are not confused by the fallacies of relativism are under no obligation to attempt any rational case for The Democrats Who Hate America.

Just because the Democrats Who Hate America live a bubble of ignorance does not mean that others do.

Trump needs no defense. For intelligent people, his record speaks for itself.
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Walker wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 8:41 pm Just because the Democrats Who Hate America live a bubble of ignorance does not mean that others do.

Trump needs no defense. For intelligent people, his record speaks for itself.
So the Republicans Who Hate America don't?

As to the Donald, he seems to believe he needs a defence even if you disagree with him. So one of you is wrong. But I agree his record is crystal clear.
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Walker wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 8:41 pm
Trump needs no defense. For intelligent people, his record speaks for itself.
For once we agree. Trump's record of sedition, autocracy, egomania, and bloviation does speak for itself. Politics has little to do with it. Intelligent people disliked Trump when he was a reality TV star. His obnoxious personality was as evident then as it is now, as was his stupidity and lack of interest in anything but himself. He'll be found guilty of fraud, bilking the public, and interfering (or trying to) with legal elections. That so many Americans seem to like him does him no credit; instead it is a commentary on the stupidity and lack of patriotism on the part of many Americans.

If the shoe fits, Walker.......
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How can "Democrats" be for Democracy when they blacklist their political opposition from the ballots???

That doesn't seem very "Democratic" to me...

Can we just get over the farce, and begin calling Liberal-Leftist-Democrats what you all really are...? Fascists. Tyrants. And you will be dealt with similar to previous tyrants.


How many Civil Wars do US Democrats have to lose before they get the message???
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Alexiev wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 12:33 am
Walker wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 8:41 pm
Trump needs no defense. For intelligent people, his record speaks for itself.
For once we agree. Trump's record of sedition, autocracy, egomania, and bloviation does speak for itself. Politics has little to do with it. Intelligent people disliked Trump when he was a reality TV star. His obnoxious personality was as evident then as it is now, as was his stupidity and lack of interest in anything but himself. He'll be found guilty of fraud, bilking the public, and interfering (or trying to) with legal elections. That so many Americans seem to like him does him no credit; instead it is a commentary on the stupidity and lack of patriotism on the part of many Americans.

If the shoe fits, Walker.......
- Keep feeding that vision and someday you could possibly apply for the position of delusional fact checker with small horizons and narrow vision.

- Keeping the focus on Trump the man and not Trump The People’s Choice is yet another slimy Leftist tactic.

- Corrupting the Constitution and the legal system, on top of all the other institutions that the Marxist Left has corrupted, in order to keep The People’s Choice off the ballot, is an attack on the country, just as surely as The Left's open borders are an attack on the country.

- The Constitution needs defending from the Evil Marxist Left, because the Constitution was written to protect individual God-given rights from the corruption that The Left so dearly loves.

- Voters know this, which is why the Corrupt Democrat Party is pulling out all the stops to falsely disqualify Trump The People’s Choice.

- The Corrupt Democrat Party knows that The People’s Choice will defend the Constitution with a motivated offense against the corrupt Democrats … and they have seen the results of the now famous, focused Trump efficiency that did so much good in the face of corrupt opposition that attacked the executive branch in many ways, both officially and by back-stabbing the executive branch.

- This is one the big reasons Trump is The People's Choice.

- The Evil Left That Hates America has corrupted elections by removing vote protections and inserting as POTUS, a semi-comatose puppet who is the front man for ignoring laws and twisting laws in order to exercise totalitarian power.

- This time decent folks know what happens when The Corrupt Democrat Party says don’t believe your lying eyes … believe the Democrat Party that has been telling one proven lie after another, at public expense, for years and years.

- However this time, the sausage makers are no longer a surprise to Trump.

- Trump has seen what The Evil Democrat Party That Hates America does and says behind closed doors, and how they lie, how they backstab after the obligatory shaking of hands and the cute bumping of elbows, the hugs and cheek kisses. (The high-fives are amongst their own lying selves.)

- Trump has promised to change the Swamp’s Trough recipe … Robustly! :lol:

- The Evil and Corrupt Democrat Party is afraid.

- Oh yes … be afraid. Be very afraid.

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Wizard22 wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:25 am How can "Democrats" be for Democracy when they blacklist their political opposition from the ballots???

That doesn't seem very "Democratic" to me...

Can we just get over the farce, and begin calling Liberal-Leftist-Democrats what you all really are...? Fascists. Tyrants. And you will be dealt with similar to previous tyrants.


How many Civil Wars do US Democrats have to lose before they get the message???
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LuckyR wrote: Wed Dec 20, 2023 10:15 pm
Walker wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 8:41 pm Just because the Democrats Who Hate America live a bubble of ignorance does not mean that others do.

Trump needs no defense. For intelligent people, his record speaks for itself.
So the Republicans Who Hate America don't?

As to the Donald, he seems to believe he needs a defence even if you disagree with him. So one of you is wrong. But I agree his record is crystal clear.
- If the Democrats Who Hate America had not corrupted the judicial system, he would have a defense.
- Much government time, money, and teams of attorneys have been expended in denying Trump a defense.
- Trump's only hope, as a man with a personal life under attack, is to be elected POTUS.
- Otherwise he will spend the rest of his life needing justice, because the Evil Left will not stop, they will grind him, his family, his fortune, and his name into dust.
- That's how The Evil Democrat Party That Hates America, rolls.

- So far, the only criticisms about Trump around here are about his style, not his content, as evidenced by judgements such as ... "bombast."

- Well, Biden's style is a vicious mean asshole with a smile more fake than a used-car salesman ... but so what. Apparently that, and Obama's narcissistic preening, is the Left's favored style. Sad when it gets aped by the minions.


Perhaps you need to broaden your focus beyond ... Get Trump.
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Statement: I will agree that Trump the man does need defense against narrow-minded morons ... but doesn't everyone?

Anticipated Moronic Response: (Yes, that's why everyone needs defense from you.)


Yessir ... that says just the way it is.

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Walker wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:03 pm Statement: I will agree that Trump the man does need defense against narrow-minded morons ... but doesn't everyone?

Anticipated Moronic Response: (Yes, that's why everyone needs defense from you.)


Yessir ... that says just the way it is.

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Ah yes, name calling. The last refuge of those without facts. Works on the playground, in adult life... not so much. But you be you.

Keep rooting for policies that help the top few percent, we appreciate it.
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why would u maintain a dialogue with anyone who admires Trump in the first place? if your intention is to make an ass out of them, i can understand that becuz that can be entertaining.

also, suppose your boy walker is part of the top few percent (wealthy, non working class, etc). why would u expect him not to endorse Trump?

seems to me tho that your involvement in these 'debates' is... *gasp*... serious? I'd have to guess that you must be a philosophy forum newbie then since u aren't able to recognize a cartoon room when u see one. please allow me to inform u that this place is a cartoon room.
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promethean75 wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 3:53 pm why would u maintain a dialogue with anyone who admires Trump in the first place? if your intention is to make an ass out of them, i can understand that becuz that can be entertaining.

also, suppose your boy walker is part of the top few percent (wealthy, non working class, etc). why would u expect him not to endorse Trump?

seems to me tho that your involvement in these 'debates' is... *gasp*... serious? I'd have to guess that you must be a philosophy forum newbie then since u aren't able to recognize a cartoon room when u see one. please allow me to inform u that this place is a cartoon room.
Oh, it's all good sport. As to your question, it's simple really. If someone is in the top few percent financially, voting in their own best interest is logical (of course many in that statistically small group vote against their financial interest since they value other things more, like say, democracy).

However, no one can get elected to anything with 2% of the vote. Thus to get anywhere near 50% of the vote requires finding large numbers of the easily fooled to get worked up on social issues to fall for handing the elite and powerful more financial advantage, which to my eye is illogical.

Thus if someone is, in fact, wealthy I completely understand acquiring more wealth. There's not really much to say about that. But that scenario is statistically unlikely.
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"of course many in that statistically small group vote against their financial interest since they value other things more, like say, democracy"

but voting for a liberal democrat or independent does not make a voter pro-democracy. or rather he may be pro-democracy, but he doesn't understand what the concept 'democracy' implies or what a society would have to be like to be a functioning democracy.

there has never been a genuine democracy, and the concept, philosophically, has been sabotaged since its inception in ancient greece. a fabrication that has now become part of the philosophical furniture in western thought. today people just toss the word around and haven't a clue what they're talking about.

the hard truth is that man, the animal, is not naturally a 'democratic' creature, but a hierarchical creature that not only recognizes natural rank and inequality, but also (consciously or not) seeks it out, aspires to it, is attracted to it, etc. the most difficult task would be to design a genuine democracy that honors that natural inclination and thrives on it. is it possible? we dunno yet. gotta try a vertical governing system by counsel democracy and replace private enterprise with collective working class ownership of the modes and means of production and distribution, first.

if that doesn't work out, by all means, carry on with the circus shitshow that is the world right now. imma anarchist nihilist, so i couldn't care less. aks Novatore and Jacob. they know wussup.
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promethean75 wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 7:30 pm "of course many in that statistically small group vote against their financial interest since they value other things more, like say, democracy"

but voting for a liberal democrat or independent does not make a voter pro-democracy. or rather he may be pro-democracy, but he doesn't understand what the concept 'democracy' implies or what a society would have to be like to be a functioning democracy.

there has never been a genuine democracy, and the concept, philosophically, has been sabotaged since its inception in ancient greece. a fabrication that has now become part of the philosophical furniture in western thought. today people just toss the word around and haven't a clue what they're talking about.

the hard truth is that man, the animal, is not naturally a 'democratic' creature, but a hierarchical creature that not only recognizes natural rank and inequality, but also (consciously or not) seeks it out, aspires to it, is attracted to it, etc. the most difficult task would be to design a genuine democracy that honors that natural inclination and thrives on it. is it possible? we dunno yet. gotta try a vertical governing system by counsel democracy and replace private enterprise with collective working class ownership of the modes and means of production and distribution, first.

if that doesn't work out, by all means, carry on with the circus shitshow that is the world right now. imma anarchist nihilist, so i couldn't care less. aks Novatore and Jacob. they know wussup.
Ha, ha. Yes, holding up "genuine democracy" as a realistic option ranks about as likely as "genuine socialism".

I don't disagree with your proposition that humans are psychologically drawn to inequity and meritocracy. Thus current "non genuine" democracy, while definitely not the real thing (as described by academics), is practically speaking, in fact "genuine" since it actually exists. Being not an anarchist, I'm good with that.
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