Crop Circles

[accelafine]

Farmers don't generally wander their fields in the middle of the night. It's not hard to do something like making crop circles without being seen.
'Manifestations of collective human consciousness'? Now I think you know what I'm going to say next so I won't bother.

[Gary Childress]

Farmers don't generally wander their fields in the middle of the night. It's not hard to do something like making crop circles without being seen.
'Manifestations of collective human consciousness'? Now I think you know what I'm going to say next so I won't bother.

If crop circles around the world are a hoax, then there are some (one might think a LOT to account for them all over the years) pretty seriously talented hoaxsters out there. Since there is an area in England that seems to be a hotbed of crop circles, has anyone thought of putting out cameras equipped with night vision equipment to catch these elusive people who make all these crop circles? I mean, surely it wouldn't be too difficult with enough cameras and time to catch at least one instance of doing it on camera if someone devoted the time and effort. Otherwise, as it stands right now I'm not aware of any footage showing a person creating a crop circle that resembles some of the amazing patterns out there.

[accelafine]

Farmers don't generally wander their fields in the middle of the night. It's not hard to do something like making crop circles without being seen.
'Manifestations of collective human consciousness'? Now I think you know what I'm going to say next so I won't bother.

If crop circles around the world are a hoax, then there are some (one might think a LOT to account for them all over the years) pretty seriously talented hoaxsters out there. Since there is an area in England that seems to be a hotbed of crop circles, has anyone thought of putting out cameras equipped with night vision equipment to catch these elusive people who make all these crop circles? I mean, surely it wouldn't be too difficult with enough cameras and time to catch at least one instance of doing it on camera if someone devoted the time and effort. Otherwise, as it stands right now I'm not aware of any footage showing a person creating a crop circle that resembles some of the amazing patterns out there.

What do you mean a 'hoax'? Maybe it's just a hobby? They aren't the idiots claiming they are from 'alien spaceships' or whatever? I mean ffs. What's more likely? People have already demonstrated EXACTLY how they do it. Why would aliens be any better at doing it?

[attofishpi]

Farmers don't generally wander their fields in the middle of the night. It's not hard to do something like making crop circles without being seen.
'Manifestations of collective human consciousness'? Now I think you know what I'm going to say next so I won't bother.

If crop circles around the world are a hoax, then there are some (one might think a LOT to account for them all over the years) pretty seriously talented hoaxsters out there. Since there is an area in England that seems to be a hotbed of crop circles, has anyone thought of putting out cameras equipped with night vision equipment to catch these elusive people who make all these crop circles? I mean, surely it wouldn't be too difficult with enough cameras and time to catch at least one instance of doing it on camera if someone devoted the time and effort. Otherwise, as it stands right now I'm not aware of any footage showing a person creating a crop circle that resembles some of the amazing patterns out there.

What do you mean a 'hoax'? Maybe it's just a hobby? They aren't the idiots claiming they are from 'alien spaceships' or whatever? I mean ffs. What's more likely? People have already demonstrated EXACTLY how they do it. Why would aliens be any better at doing it?

Well, it's obvious, the aliens must have more advanced two by four planks of wood and rope.

LW: Sorry, couldn't resist - extreeeemly busy but will have a read of the OP later

n Gazza, that 'hotbed' of crop circles is up the road from where I lived (in Hampshire), and you know what a wacky sense of humour my lot have!

Hampshire born,
Hampshire bred,
strong in the arm,
thick in the head.

(irony - me, weak in the arm, deep finker)

[attofishpi]

Enjoy...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoxC5QLIUdo

I was hoping the vid was going to be a doco with some supporting evidence of some of what you stated in the OP - rather than pretty pictures in fields to music!

..anyway, if my kin from Hampshire didn't do it - then sage did, maybe he ran a little algorithm insertion to the God mainframe.

[Lacewing]

Farmers don't generally wander their fields in the middle of the night. It's not hard to do something like making crop circles without being seen.

From the OP:

> They are generally formed at night during the shortest evenings of the English year when darkness lasts but four hours, in fields eagerly watched by farmers, military, laser alarms, scientists or hundreds of enthusiasts in their sleeping bags hoping to be the lucky ones to witness a crop circle forming. Yet despite many stakeouts and fields rigged with top surveillance equipment, crop circles have appeared out of the mist right under the noses of those looking for them.

[Lacewing]

I was hoping the vid was going to be a doco with some supporting evidence of some of what you stated in the OP - rather than pretty pictures in fields to music!

I just wanted to show some of the images that surely weren't created with string and boards!

FFS - Think about the implications of these things... or not. People are so easily explaining them away despite all to the contrary.

There are videos that discuss all kinds of supporting evidence readily available via the internet.

I offered a brief summary that anyone could scan through before commenting with their dismissive nonsense for which they offer no solid reasoning.

So, whatever.

[Lacewing]

People have already demonstrated EXACTLY how they do it.

From the OP:

> That people with a good amount of training can go into a field and eventually create a coherent pattern has never been the issue. The issue is that no man-made crop circle has satisfactorily replicated the features associated with the real phenomenon which has baffled scientists and researchers.

FFS! Read the OP before you spew any more of your resistance via the typical lame dismissals that have already been addressed in the OP.

[accelafine]

'Supporting evidence' for 'what' exactly? A 'collective subconscious 'thingamegig' that manifests as flattened patches of wheat in fields that just happen to occur mostly in one part of England? That's a very specific and targeted 'manifestation of human consciousness'.
I read the OP. There's very little to no meat on those bones. There's nothing to really disagree 'with' because it's deliberately vague, so I don't know why you are getting annoyed when others take a difference 'stance'. You've obviously made up your mind that crop circles are something other than what they obviously are (not interesting enough) and nothing is going to change that.
Btw, 'alien invasion' is a far more likely explanation than boring old 'weather balloons'

[Lacewing]

I'm not aware of any footage showing a person creating a crop circle that resembles some of the amazing patterns out there.

Right! Wouldn't there be some artists eager to show how THEY can create huge, intricate designs that extend node bends in the plants (using heat, and leaving radioactive traces) such that the stalks are laid down and spiraled together without breakage or trampling from force?

Do the man-made circles provide an easy way to dismiss those that are truly phenomenal appearing right in front of us?

How hard would it be to pull off a simple discrediting campaign to keep people as compliant and unquestioning as livestock? Especially when people are so eager to continue serving their own established beliefs.

[Lacewing]

'Supporting evidence' for 'what' exactly? A 'collective subconscious 'thingamegig' that manifests as flattened patches of wheat in fields that just happen to occur mostly in one part of England? That's a very specific and targeted 'manifestation of human consciousness'.
I read the OP. There's very little to no meat on those bones. There's nothing to really disagree 'with' because it's deliberately vague, so I don't know why you are getting annoyed when others take a difference 'stance'. You've obviously made up your mind that crop circles are something other than what they obviously are (not interesting enough) and nothing is going to change that.
Btw, 'alien invasion' is a far more likely explanation than boring old 'weather balloons'

Your ongoing density and distortions don't deserve interaction. Go be stupid somewhere else.

[accelafine]

'Supporting evidence' for 'what' exactly? A 'collective subconscious 'thingamegig' that manifests as flattened patches of wheat in fields that just happen to occur mostly in one part of England? That's a very specific and targeted 'manifestation of human consciousness'.
I read the OP. There's very little to no meat on those bones. There's nothing to really disagree 'with' because it's deliberately vague, so I don't know why you are getting annoyed when others take a difference 'stance'. You've obviously made up your mind that crop circles are something other than what they obviously are (not interesting enough) and nothing is going to change that.
Btw, 'alien invasion' is a far more likely explanation than boring old 'weather balloons'

Your ongoing density and distortions don't deserve interaction. Go be stupid somewhere else.

Touchy little thing aren't you? Go be a crazy, gullible twat somewhere else then. There are tons of pseudoscience conspiracy sites out there. You won't have to put up with being irritated by anyone making fun of your nonsense on those.

[Gary Childress]

Farmers don't generally wander their fields in the middle of the night. It's not hard to do something like making crop circles without being seen.

From the OP:

> They are generally formed at night during the shortest evenings of the English year when darkness lasts but four hours, in fields eagerly watched by farmers, military, laser alarms, scientists or hundreds of enthusiasts in their sleeping bags hoping to be the lucky ones to witness a crop circle forming. Yet despite many stakeouts and fields rigged with top surveillance equipment, crop circles have appeared out of the mist right under the noses of those looking for them.

It's possible that the culprits (dastardly bunch, they) are able to spot people camping out or watching the fields, however, what about using camera drones that have no lights on them? That might catch someone unawares.

[Lacewing]

It's possible that the culprits (dastardly bunch, they) are able to spot people camping out or watching the fields, however, what about using camera drones that have no lights on them? That might catch someone unawares.

With all the ongoing interest, I'm guessing that all kinds of technology is being used. Evidently, there is no one to catch in the 'authentic' (non-manmade) cases... and there are no dogs barking, or farmers waking up, or cameras picking up activity, or people seeing anyone doing anything, or signs of entry... there are just some elaborate crop circles appearing almost instantly, which are then photographed and investigated by people who think it's significant.

[Alexiev]

As with many things, the crop circles are interesting and the theories about them are interesting. Hoaxes? Or aliens? Aren't there a myriad of other possibilities? God? Fairies? It is, perhaps, ethnocentric to think only human-like, space travelling aliens could possibly be the explanation. Maybe the culprit is something we haven't even thought about or imagined. The idea that crop circles are persuasive evidence for alien visitation is, to be generous, a stretch.