Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:22 amOh. So you don't agree with the Palestinians on their rabid desire to kill the Jews. You just want the Jews moved out of the Middle East.
To where?
Wyoming?
Personally, I have no agenda and in that sense I have no desire. I don't think I have any power either to decide anything. My position is that of observer of a really strange enactment and rehearsal. One thing I have said, because I think it is true, is that Jewish history has not ended. And what I notice is that through those always tragic twists and turns of fate, which have never operated very favorably for the people of Israel, that on the cosmic chessboard Jewry put itself or was put in an untenable position. That is what we see playing out in front of us. Yet it has profound potential consequences for all of us. I would say that all Gentiles should take stock of this. That involves a deep and careful examination of the very innards of Judaic belief. Most will avoid it because it is such a hot and dangerous topic.
For all that it seemed that the reconquest of Judea would solve the Jewish historical problem, it has turned out (or is beginning to look like it might turn out) as a trap. Who did this? you might ask. Well, it seems to have been a combination of circumstances. I have noted, and you should be aware, that Christian Zionism predated the Jewish Zionist movement. And my assertion is that Christian Zionism can be examined and implicated in destructive actions that result in *bad fruit* ripening. That
bad fruit is the military-political régime that runs Israel and has most strongly determined Israel's affairs for 70+ years.
It [CZ] can be seen as *heretical* insofar as its doctrines are all falsely linked to the Bible and to Bible prophecy. For this reason I suggest to readers here that they better understand
Christian Zionism. However, jumping into all that requires entering
as if you are a believer, which is a very strange thing to ask of people who do not believe (most who write on this forum). You have to participate to a degree in the system in order to be able to grasp how it operates.
So for example I continually *enter into* your bizarre and screwy belief-system
just to be able to talk to you -- or
at you as the case may be since you are incapable of listening & learning.
There are Evangelical Christians who oppose the tenets of Christian Zionism and they do so while remaining *committed Christians*. They are still within the belief system, but are opposing a sick and twisted perversion of Christian doctrines. (As you well know you are one of the sickest fucks I have ever come across and the root of your sickness is in your bizarre links to both Christian Zionism and Bible literalism, that in combination with various personality defects and a distorted intellectualism).
I will submit here that despite the fact that you say and pretend that you are a great friend to Jewry, that as a Christian Zionist you cannot be. And I suggest that people reading here take into consideration that many non-Christian Zionist Evangelicals believe that Christian Zionism is an expression, though occulted, of an antisemitic posture. Because in those dread Final Days Jewry will be wiped out and only a remnant will become Christians and then ascend to Heaven with Jesus and the rest of the flock. These are nut-case level hallucinations, naturally, and obviously none of this is going to happen at any point, ever. But because you are a self-confessed Christian fanatic you believe a whole group of different hallucinated beliefs, and these are part of a movement that can only be compared to
mass hysteria, and you-plural are extremely powerful and have been, especially in American government since Eisenhower's presidency. All following American presidents have been influenced by Christian Zionist ideology (and heresy if one remains a Christian believer but rejects CZ).
Therefore, I suggest that it is Christian Zionist support [mostly by the US] of Israel that has contributed mightily to the creation of the conditions that have now ripened into this horrifying and consequential situation that could blow up at any moment. But you, you sick asshole, you fraud, you don't
really care. If you did care, and if your ilk actually cared, you'd have reined in your religious madness and seen into the projecting psychology that you are so deeply committed to.
Is this getting any clearer?
You are a Great Inadvertent Teacher! If one devotes time to dismantling the fallacies and self-deceptions that have you so powerfully in their grip, one can employ you as a tool to achieve greater understanding and clarity.
Before any proposal could be made about *what to do with Israel* or what to do *about Israel*, the first order of business must necessarily be that of getting as clear as possible about what Israel is and what the entire situation is. The advantage we of philosophical inclination have is that we can, technically, undertake such a careful examination and try to see into the essence of the issue.
In this project you are
totally and completely useless. How proud you must feel!
Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:38 pm "From the river to the sea," you mean?
