Name that fallacy...

[Age]

You do, the end. You're the biggest hypocrite here.

So, LET 'us' SEE what ACTUAL PROOF 'you', SUPPOSEDLY, HAVE "atla".

Or, do 'you' NOT have ABSOLUTELY ANY PROOF AT ALL TO PUT FORTH and PRESENT here?

Almost all your comments. Fucking hypocrite.

Would 'you' LIKE to PRESENT JUST one of 'them'. So, THEN 'we' HAVE some 'thing' to LOOK AT, SEE, and DISCUSS?

If no, then WHY NOT, EXACTLY?

What would 'you' BE AFRAID or SCARED OF, EXACTLY?

[Atla]

So, LET 'us' SEE what ACTUAL PROOF 'you', SUPPOSEDLY, HAVE "atla".

Or, do 'you' NOT have ABSOLUTELY ANY PROOF AT ALL TO PUT FORTH and PRESENT here?

Almost all your comments. Fucking hypocrite.

BUT I WILL REMIND 'you', 'they' ARE NOT BELIEFS.

Are 'you' ABLE TO COMPREHEND, UNDERSTAND, or ACCEPT this Fact?

If no, then 'this' IS BECAUSE of the BELIEFS, which 'you' ARE, currently, VERY STRONGLY HOLDING ONTO, and MAINTAINING.

See, if 'you' were NOT HOLDING ONTO and MAINTAINING BELIEFS, THEN, and ONLY THEN, 'you' COULD BECOME Truly OPEN, AND, it is ONLY WHEN one IS Truly OPEN that 'they' THEN CAN, and WILL, COME-TO-LEARN MORE, and/or ANEW 'things'.

They are beliefs. Who do you think you're lying to?

[Atla]

So, LET 'us' SEE what ACTUAL PROOF 'you', SUPPOSEDLY, HAVE "atla".

Or, do 'you' NOT have ABSOLUTELY ANY PROOF AT ALL TO PUT FORTH and PRESENT here?

Almost all your comments. Fucking hypocrite.

Would 'you' LIKE to PRESENT JUST one of 'them'. So, THEN 'we' HAVE some 'thing' to LOOK AT, SEE, and DISCUSS?

If no, then WHY NOT, EXACTLY?

What would 'you' BE AFRAID or SCARED OF, EXACTLY?

It's fully proven. Who do you think you're lying to? Who do you think you are?

[Iwannaplato]

BUT WHEN 'they' ARE 'RUNNING AWAY', then 'this' is NOT A PRESUMPTION, NOR BELIEF. This is just A COMMENT and/or REMARK ABOUT what 'they' ACTUALLY ARE DOING.

In English, in any context remotely like that you are obviously not being literal - so it is not what they are 'actually doing' in any literal sense. They are not literally running away. So, in its trope sense, the only one remaining, this phrase implies they are afraid. They are not simply turning and walking away, in your estimation. They are running away. This is convenient mind reading on you part. When people stop communicating with you they might feel just tired of the process - which at least one person has said to you. They might be annoyed. They might fairly dispassionately simply not think they are getting anything out of it. You may have judgments of them for having those reactions also, but the point in focus is that you are making up, without evidence, their mental and emotional state. It's a negative judgment. If you say: he stopped communicating with me: that's neutral. That is what is actually happening.

It is an example, yet another, of your judgments of people. The motives are unclear. It could be an attempt to shame people back into the dialogue. And, of course, people can feel shame when there is no reason to. Which I am sure you know about given you concerns about protecting children. So, you may well, unintentionally, be triggering people to continue doing something they don't want to do due to childhood traumas and neglect. It could be that it suits you to think of them as afraid. Iambiguous used to do this quite a bit. He would announce that people stopped communicating with him because he was triggering them into fears they could not face. This kind of self-serving mind reading and judgment of people is not supported. And given that it can be self-serving more skepticism about this seems wise to me on both your parts.

I think this response, which I quoted above is disingenuous no can you know what people need, despite the implicit claims about how important your role is in helping humanity. I say disingenuous because you clearly do not know what they are feeling and you were wrong certainly my case. In fact, I hadn't even move away. I said I was not longer going to do work for you. Which you interpreted through the distorted lens you have of humans, a group you do not consider yourself a part of. Despite this self-image, you repeatedly show yourself to have the main foibles you judge people to have at this time.

At this time, this kind of narrowing the possibilities to one combined with an implicit claim of mindreading is a kind of dominance technique. I don't assume you are conscious of this. But, then consciousness is not necessary for it to be problematic or self-serving or both.

I know you think you have this extremely important role and have the key to helping all of humanity.

But I am not impressed with your interpersonal understanding, nor your self-understanding.

Reread the quote I included of yours at the top. I can't imagine that you would have accepted such a confused, naive statement from someone else. And this is a charitable reation. The other possible interpretation is that you are consciously gaslighting.

[Age]

Almost all your comments. Fucking hypocrite.

BUT I WILL REMIND 'you', 'they' ARE NOT BELIEFS.

Are 'you' ABLE TO COMPREHEND, UNDERSTAND, or ACCEPT this Fact?

If no, then 'this' IS BECAUSE of the BELIEFS, which 'you' ARE, currently, VERY STRONGLY HOLDING ONTO, and MAINTAINING.

See, if 'you' were NOT HOLDING ONTO and MAINTAINING BELIEFS, THEN, and ONLY THEN, 'you' COULD BECOME Truly OPEN, AND, it is ONLY WHEN one IS Truly OPEN that 'they' THEN CAN, and WILL, COME-TO-LEARN MORE, and/or ANEW 'things'.

They are beliefs.

What, EXACTLY, are, SUPPOSEDLY, 'beliefs'?

'They' are JUST 'your BELIEFS'.

Who do you think you're lying to?

But 'I' AM NOT LYING. 'you' JUST BELIEVE 'I' AM, ONLY.

[Age]

Almost all your comments. Fucking hypocrite.

Would 'you' LIKE to PRESENT JUST one of 'them'. So, THEN 'we' HAVE some 'thing' to LOOK AT, SEE, and DISCUSS?

If no, then WHY NOT, EXACTLY?

What would 'you' BE AFRAID or SCARED OF, EXACTLY?

It's fully proven.

TO WHO, EXACTLY?

And what is the 'It' word here REFERRING TO, EXACTLY?

Who do you think you're lying to?

BUT 'I' AM NOT LYING. 'you' JUST BELIEVE that 'I' AM.

Who do you think you are?

'I' do NOT 'think'. 'I' KNOW.

[Atla]

'I' do NOT 'think'. 'I' KNOW.

There is no 'I' and you don't know, you believe. Who do you think you're lying to?

[Age]

BUT WHEN 'they' ARE 'RUNNING AWAY', then 'this' is NOT A PRESUMPTION, NOR BELIEF. This is just A COMMENT and/or REMARK ABOUT what 'they' ACTUALLY ARE DOING.

In English, in any context remotely like that you are obviously not being literal - so it is not what they are 'actually doing' in any literal sense.

ARE OKAY, so 'now' 'you', FINALLY, WANT TO LOOK AT and TAKE 'things' here LITERALLY.

It TOOK QUITE A WHILE TO GET 'here', BUT 'we' FINALLY DID, and HAVE.

They are not literally running away.

GREAT. SEE HOW EASY, HOW SIMPLE, and HOW QUICK it REALLY IS TO GET TO, SEE, and OBTAIN the ACTUAL and IRREFUTABLE Truth OF 'things'?

So, in its trope sense, the only one remaining, this phrase implies they are afraid.

YES. 'That' WAS WHAT WAS BEING INTENDED. THANK 'you' FOR FINALLY RECOGNIZING and ACKNOWLEDGING this Fact.

They are not simply turning and walking away, in your estimation. They are running away.

YES. 'They' WERE and STILL ARE 'MY WORDS'.

This is convenient mind reading on you part.

BUT 'you' DO NOT YET KNOW what the 'Mind' IS, EXACTLY, NOR FULLY.

So, what do 'you' ACTUALLY MEAN here WHEN 'you' USE the words 'mind reading'?

When people stop communicating with you they might feel just tired of the process - which at least one person has said to you.

BUT I HAVE NEVER EVER SAID nor IMPLIED otherwise. So, WHY BRING UP 'this' COMPLETELY TRIVIAL and OFF-TOPIC COMMENT and REMARK here?

They might be annoyed. They might fairly dispassionately simply not think they are getting anything out of it. You may have judgments of them for having those reactions also, but the point in focus is that you are making up, without evidence, their mental and emotional state.

BUT 'you' HAVE JUST MADE UP 'things', which HAVE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH THE ACTUAL WORDS THAT I PUT FORTH here.

'you' KEEP MISINTERPRETING 'MY WORDS' here. And, WHY 'you' KEEP DOING 'this' here IS VERY OBVIOUS. Well TO 'me' anyway, if NOT TO 'you'.

'you' KNOW what I WOULD LOVE here? In case 'you' MIGHT, then I WOULD LOVE IF 'you' JUST FOCUSED ON THE ACTUAL WORDS THAT I SAY, WRITE, and USE here, ONLY, and 'you' MADE 'your' COMMENTS and REMARKS in relation TO 'them' ALONE, and ONLY.

'you' seems to MISS QUITE A LOT OF WHAT I SAY and WRITE here. BUT, 'this' WAS A VERY COMMON 'practice' among adult human beings, BACK in the days when this was being

It's a negative judgment. If you say: he stopped communicating with me: that's neutral. That is what is actually happening.

OKAY. BUT I HAVE NEVER TALKED ABOUT just STOPPED COMMUNICATING WITH 'me'.

So, WHY 'you' BRING 'this' OFF-TOPIC comment and remark up, ONLY 'you' WOULD KNOW FOR SURE here.

It is an example, yet another, of your judgments of people.

OKAY. But considering the Fact that I HAVE NOT MY JUDGMENTS IN RELATION TO JUST 'STOPPED COMMUNICATING', ONLY, what 'you' WANT TO JUDGE 'me' ON, and NEGATIVELY JUDGE 'me' ON, has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AT ALL TO WHAT I HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN SAYING, and TALKING ABOUT, here.

The motives are unclear.

OKAY. So, HOW DO 'you' IMAGINE 'you' COULD CLEAR 'things' UP here?

It could be an attempt to shame people back into the dialogue.

AND 'it' COULD BE MANY OTHER 'things' AS WELL. BUT, there is ONLY One REAL WAY TO CLARIFY and CLEAR 'things' UP here. BUT, 'you' HAVE ALREADY ADMITTED that 'you' ARE NOT INTERESTED IN 'that way' OF DOING 'things'.

And, of course, people can feel shame when there is no reason to.

IS 'this' HOW 'you' FEEL?

Which I am sure you know about given you concerns about protecting children.

HOW do the TWO 'things' here RELATE, EXACTLY?

So, you may well, unintentionally, be triggering people to continue doing something they don't want to do due to childhood traumas and neglect.

Well, OF COURSE, 'they' WILL KEEP DOING the Wrong 'things' IF 'they' DO NOT ADMIT that 'they' ARE, AND, DO NOT WANT TO CHANGE, FOR THE BETTER, FOR children's SAKE.

It could be that it suits you to think of them as afraid.

WHY do 'you' ENVISION, IMAGINE, and/or BELIEVE that 'it' COULD SUIT 'me', EXACTLY?

Iambiguous used to do this quite a bit.

'you' REALLY LOVE or ENJOY LOOKING AT "others", JUDGING 'them', talking ABOUT 'them, AND DOING SO NEGATIVELY, correct?

He would announce that people stopped communicating with him because he was triggering them into fears they could not face.

OKAY. BUT WHO CARES?

I PREFER 'you' TO SPEAK ABOUT 'you', and INFORM 'us' OF the Wrong 'things' that 'you' DO, but which 'you' REALLY WANT TO STOP DOING.

WOULD 'you' LIKE TO INFORM 'us' of the Wrong 'things' 'you' DO?

If no, then WHY INFORM 'us' OF the Wrong 'things' "OTHER" people DO?

This kind of self-serving mind reading and judgment of people is not supported.

BUT is 'your' SELF-SERVING, so-called 'MIND READING', and JUDGMENT OF "OTHER" 'people' SUPPORTED?

If yes, then HOW, EXACTLY?

And given that it can be self-serving more skepticism about this seems wise to me on both your parts.

BUT NOT ON 'your part', right?

I think this response, which I quoted above is disingenuous no can you know what people need, despite the implicit claims about how important your role is in helping humanity.

BUT I KNOW, IRREFUTABLY, FOR SURE, what 'you', 'people', AND 'you', 'human beings' NEED.

BUT, AGAIN, 'you' ARE ABSOLUTELY FREE TO 'think' ABSOLUTELY WHATEVER 'you' LIKE TO.

ALSO, 'you' ARE EXACTLY Right here that the EXTREMELY IMPORTANT ROLE of so-called 'helping humanity', which is what ALL OF 'you', CAPABLE adult human beings, SHOULD JUST BE DOING ANYWAY, HAS NO BEARING AT ALL ON 'me' KNOWING, FOR SURE, WHAT 'you', human beings and people, NEED, IN Life.

I say disingenuous because you clearly do not know what they are feeling and you were wrong certainly my case.

BUT what HAS 'this' GOT TO DO WITH the word 'need', which 'you' CHOSE TO USE, in your PREVIOUS SENTENCE here?

In fact, I hadn't even move away.

BUT 'you' do NOT YET KNOW WHO NOR WHAT the 'I' IS, EXACTLY. So, OBVIOUSLY, 'you' WOULD NOT KNOW WHETHER thee 'I' 'moved away', OR NOT, here.

I said I was not longer going to do work for you. Which you interpreted through the distorted lens you have of humans, a group you do not consider yourself a part of.

WHY MENTION 'your' ASSUMPTION or BELIEF that 'I' have A DISTORTED LENS, in relation TO 'you' SAYING that you were ' no longer going to do work for 'me' ',
HOW ARE the TWO, SUPPOSEDLY, RELATED, EXACTLY?

In other words, WHAT is 'your INTERPRETATION', of what 'you' think or BELIEVE was 'my INTERPRETATION' of what 'you SAID and CLAIMED?

Despite this self-image, you repeatedly show yourself to have the main foibles you judge people to have at this time.

OKAY. BUT 'you', adult human beings, especially in the days when this was being written, did have a VERY STRONG TENDENCY TO 'anthropomorphize' 'that' what is NOT 'human'. So, MAYBE what 'you' ARE 'SEEING', REALLY DOES NOT EXIST. BUT, 'you' BELIEVE otherwise, correct?

At this time, this kind of narrowing the possibilities to one combined with an implicit claim of mindreading is a kind of dominance technique.

BUT I HAVE NEVER EVER THOUGHT that 'this' IS so-called 'mind reading', LET ALONE EVER IMPLIED 'this' ABSOLUTELY ANYWHERE here. So, if what 'you' ARE 'SEEING' IS such a so CLAIMED 'implicit claim of mindreading', then here is FURTHER PROOF of just HOW MUCH BELIEFS ARE BIASED, and HOW MUCH BELIEFS CREATE False and/or Wrong CONFIRMATION.

I don't assume you are conscious of this.

I SUGGEST 'you' do NOT ASSUME ANY 'thing', ANYWHERE here.

If 'you' STOPPED ASSUMING here COMPLETELY, then 'you' WOULD NOT BE SO Wrong, AS SO OFTEN, as 'you' OBVIOUSLY ARE and HAVE BEEN here.

But, then consciousness is not necessary for it to be problematic or self-serving or both.

What 'we' have here IS A PRIME example of one being Truly DISINGENUOUS. ALTHOUGH 'this one' BELIEVES otherwise.

Some find it Truly AMAZING and VERY HUMOROUS how ALL of the 'things' that 'this one' IS JUDGING 'me' AND "others" OF DOING, and DOING SO NEGATIVELY, 'this one' DOES THE EXACT SAME 'things'.

LET 'us' SEE just HOW MUCH 'you' KNOW ABOUT 'consciousness'.

I know you think you have this extremely important role and have the key to helping all of humanity.

WHY do 'you' PRESUME that I think that I have a so-called and ALLEGED 'extremely important role', EXACTLY?

But I am not impressed with your interpersonal understanding, nor your self-understanding.

BUT 'you' have ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA NOR CLUE in regards to MY 'Self-understanding', NOR TO MY 'interpersonal understanding'. 'you' JUST think or BELIEVE 'you' DO.

Reread the quote I included of yours at the top.

OKAY.

DONE it.

I can't imagine that you would have accepted such a confused, naive statement from someone else.

Okay. If 'you' can NOT IMAGINE 'this', then 'this' IS ABSOLUTELY PERFECTLY FINE, and PERFECTLY UNDERSTANDABLE, TO 'me'.

And, the VERY REASON WHY 'you' can NOT EVEN IMAGINE such A 'thing' I have ALREADY PARTLY EXPLAINED, FOR 'you'.

And this is a charitable reation.

If 'you' BELIEVE SO.

The other possible interpretation is that you are consciously gaslighting.

IS there ANY OTHER POSSIBLE INTERPRETATIONS, FROM 'your perspective'?

[Age]

'I' do NOT 'think'. 'I' KNOW.

There is no 'I' and you don't know, you believe.

So, TO "atla" there is NO 'I'. Therefore, to ALL of 'you', human beings, who USE the WORD and LETTER 'I', there IS NO 'I', AND, LOOKING FOR AN ANSWER TO the QUESTION, 'Who AM 'I'?' would, OBVIOUSLY, TO "atla" be just a COMPLETE and UTTER WASTE OF 'time' AND 'energy' FOR 'you', human beings.

ALSO, "atla" BELIEVES, ABSOLUTELY, that NONE of 'you', human beings, KNOW ANY 'thing'. "atla" SAYS, 'you' JUST BELIEVE 'you' DO, ONLY.

Who do you think you're lying to?

WHO BELIEVES that 'I' AM LYING?

[Atla]

'I' do NOT 'think'. 'I' KNOW.

There is no 'I' and you don't know, you believe.

So, TO "atla" there is NO 'I'. Therefore, to ALL of 'you', human beings, who USE the WORD and LETTER 'I', there IS NO 'I', AND, LOOKING FOR AN ANSWER TO the QUESTION, 'Who AM 'I'?' would, OBVIOUSLY, TO "atla" be just a COMPLETE and UTTER WASTE OF 'time' AND 'energy' FOR 'you', human beings.

It's not a waste of time, liar. But you aren't representing our God, liar. Just who do you think you are?

ALSO, "atla" BELIEVES, ABSOLUTELY

I don't, you miserable pathetic liar

that NONE of 'you', human beings, KNOW ANY 'thing'. "atla" SAYS, 'you' JUST BELIEVE 'you' DO, ONLY.

It's what all sane people think, that's why you aren't getting anywhere with your ultimate lie that you're representing our god.

[Age]

There is no 'I' and you don't know, you believe.

So, TO "atla" there is NO 'I'. Therefore, to ALL of 'you', human beings, who USE the WORD and LETTER 'I', there IS NO 'I', AND, LOOKING FOR AN ANSWER TO the QUESTION, 'Who AM 'I'?' would, OBVIOUSLY, TO "atla" be just a COMPLETE and UTTER WASTE OF 'time' AND 'energy' FOR 'you', human beings.

It's not a waste of time, liar.

So, 'now', although TO "atla" there is ABSOLUTELY NO 'I', it is STILL NOT A WASTE OF 'time' for 'you', human beings, to go LOOKING FOR 'this NON EXISTING 'I', NOR is it A WASTE OF 'time' NOR for 'you', human beings, to KEEP SEEKING AN ANSWER TO WHO 'this NON EXISTING 'I' IS, EXACTLY.

One now WONDERS, IF the one KNOWN here AS "atla" can SEE ANY 'thing' that MIGHT APPEAR CONTRADICTORY here?

But you aren't representing our God, liar.

WHY, WHO IS 'your God', EXACTLY?

Just who do you think you are?

'I' do NOT 'think' here. 'I' KNOW WHO, (and WHAT), 'I' AM, EXACTLY?

Who do 'you' think 'you' ARE, "atla"?

ALSO, "atla" BELIEVES, ABSOLUTELY

I don't, you miserable pathetic liar.

Okay, "atla" ONLY PARTIALLY believes what 'it' SAID and CLAIMED before here.

that NONE of 'you', human beings, KNOW ANY 'thing'. "atla" SAYS, 'you' JUST BELIEVE 'you' DO, ONLY.

It's what all sane people think,

AND, 'you' "atla" WERE one of the sane people, right, BACK, IN the days when this WAS being written?

that's why you aren't getting anywhere with your ultimate lie that you're representing our god.

But 'I' am NOT representing God.

WHY did 'you' PRESUME or BELIEVE that 'I' WAS LYING here, AS WELL?

[Iwannaplato]

That post was a complete lack of responsibility-taking on your part for what you said.

[Atla]

So, 'now', although TO "atla" there is ABSOLUTELY NO 'I', it is STILL NOT A WASTE OF 'time' for 'you', human beings, to go LOOKING FOR 'this NON EXISTING 'I', NOR is it A WASTE OF 'time' NOR for 'you', human beings, to KEEP SEEKING AN ANSWER TO WHO 'this NON EXISTING 'I' IS, EXACTLY.

One now WONDERS, IF the one KNOWN here AS "atla" can SEE ANY 'thing' that MIGHT APPEAR CONTRADICTORY here?

The point is to find out what the "I" really is, and it has nothing to do with this God you are trying to push on others.

WHY, WHO IS 'your God', EXACTLY?

The truth beyond reasonable doubt is that there isn't one. You are just making the whole thing up for selfish reasons, liar.

'I' do NOT 'think' here. 'I' KNOW WHO, (and WHAT), 'I' AM, EXACTLY?

No you don't, stop lying.

[Age]

That post was a complete lack of responsibility-taking on your part for what you said.

AND what was 'that post', EXACTLY?

ALSO, was 'this post' of 'yours' here one of those JUDGMENT POSTS OF 'me' here, which when 'you' SAY I make 'judgments' of "others" is A NEGATIVE 'thing' TO DO?

[Age]

So, 'now', although TO "atla" there is ABSOLUTELY NO 'I', it is STILL NOT A WASTE OF 'time' for 'you', human beings, to go LOOKING FOR 'this NON EXISTING 'I', NOR is it A WASTE OF 'time' NOR for 'you', human beings, to KEEP SEEKING AN ANSWER TO WHO 'this NON EXISTING 'I' IS, EXACTLY.

One now WONDERS, IF the one KNOWN here AS "atla" can SEE ANY 'thing' that MIGHT APPEAR CONTRADICTORY here?

The point is to find out what the "I" really is,

But 'this' HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE. Although 'you', "atla, OBVIOUSLY BELIEVE, ABSOLUTELY, that doing so would be an IMPOSSIBLE 'thing' TO DO. Considering what 'you' HAVE SAID and CLAIMED above hee.

and it has nothing to do with this God you are trying to push on others.

WHO and/or WHAT is 'this God', EXACTLY, which 'you' SPEAK ABOUT and MENTION here?

WHY, WHO IS 'your God', EXACTLY?

The truth beyond reasonable doubt is that there isn't one.

SO, TO 'atla", anyway, there is NO God, AND, NO 'I'.

You are just making the whole thing up for selfish reasons, liar.

'I' AM, SUPPOSEDLY, JUST MAKING 'what' UP, EXACTLY?

'I' do NOT 'think' here. 'I' KNOW WHO, (and WHAT), 'I' AM, EXACTLY?

No you don't, stop lying.

So, 'you', the one here known as "atla", KNOWS, ABSOLUTELY, that 'thee, or this, I' does NOT KNOW WHO and WHAT 'I' AM, EXACTLY.