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accelafine wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:08 am
Sculptor wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:41 am
accelafine wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:30 am Amazing how with all this 'slaughter and genocide' going on in Gaza, Hamas feels the need to saturate the internet with bizarre images of 6 fingered AI 'victims', women in hospital with bandages OVER their hijabs, people in body bags playing with their cell phones. actors who keep showing up in different disguises (some of them dead)... So no actual victims to film then? Interesting the way Jew-haters like the cretin above believe every bit of crap that comes out of Gaza, yet are oddly silent on the rapes, torture and mass murders that were all filmed by Hamas and gleefully so.
What are you talking about?
Better ask your wet dream, Jeremy Corbyn. I understand he is the ventriloquist to your dummy.
Nice substantive post.
I have misjudged aceelafine as being merely bile and assertions.
Here we see he can actually mount an effective critique and clearly understands what a philosophical discussion is.
I apologize for my former judgments of him.
We're all going to learn more about critical thinking by interacting with him.
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Re: The USA and Israel

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Iwannaplato wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 6:24 am
accelafine wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 5:08 am
Sculptor wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:41 am

What are you talking about?
Better ask your wet dream, Jeremy Corbyn. I understand he is the ventriloquist to your dummy.
Nice substantive post.
I have misjudged aceelafine as being merely bile and assertions.
Here we see he can actually mount an effective critique and clearly understands what a philosophical discussion is.
I apologize for my former judgments of him.
We're all going to learn more about critical thinking by interacting with him.
Another wokie intellectual who can sway others using only his brilliance and profound knowledge. Praise the lord.
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Immanuel Can wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 6:02 pm
phyllo wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 5:46 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 5:30 pm
Because the corrupt establishment, both Democrat and Rhino Republican, needs wars. War is how they launder your tax dollars into kickbacks. If they're not killing Afghanis and Ukrainians to do it, they'll be killing Jews and Arabs to do it. But they need to be doing it, or the money-flow stops.

Wars turn "aid" dollars into military equipment and explosives...all of which are perishable and impossible for accountants to track. Then the military-industrial complex feeds dollars back to the politicians that support the wars. They all win, and we all lose. But without a war, the grift becomes obvious, and laundering their ill-gotten tax gains becomes impossible.

Expect wars. They like them.
I take it that means, the US ought to be pressuring Israel to stop.
Hamas is pressuring Israel to continue, and has them in a vice. If they stop, Hamas massacres them again; if they continue, then they look really bad on the world stage. It's very clever and very sinister; and the pawns, of course, are the innocent Jews and Palestinians Hamas is murdering, using as human shields, and otherwise arranging to get killed so their evil PR campaign can persist.

The only way to stop it is to stop Hamas. Hamas is the thing that's keeping the war going. They started it, and they're orchestrating it. It will end when Hamas ends, obviously. But Hamas will not let it end any earlier...that much, they've already declared.
It could be said and argued that "hamas" began, or was started, BECAUSE they were 'standing up' for the innocent human beings who were being MURDERED and DISPLACED.

So, when, and if, the people in "israel" STOP KILLING, BOMBING, DISPLACING, and HARMING and DAMAGING INNOCENT human beings, then, and ONLY THEN, 'it' will end.

BUT, the people of "israel" have declared that 'they' will NOT stop until 'those human beings' have been WIPED OFF the earth.
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accelafine wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 6:33 am Another wokie intellectual who can sway others using only his brilliance and profound knowledge. Praise the lord.
What woke things do I believe in? LOL.
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You hate Jews for one. Oops. i mean 'zionists'. There's a difference you know :roll:
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accelafine wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 8:06 am You hate Jews for one. Oops. i mean 'zionists'. There's a difference you know :roll:
Accelefine is also showing us the importance of psychic ad homs in philosophical discussion.
Accelefine is a pedophile.
Oh, this is fun.
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Iwannaplato wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 8:12 am
accelafine wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 8:06 am You hate Jews for one. Oops. i mean 'zionists'. There's a difference you know :roll:
Accelefine is also showing us the importance of psychic ad homs in philosophical discussion.
Accelefine is a pedophile.
Oh, this is fun.
'Psychic'?? What's 'pedophile'? The harm drink and drugs can do. it's tragic.
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accelafine wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 8:17 am What's 'pedophile'?
I'll be charitable and assume you're English, maybe Irish. In the other English-speaking countries they don't add the 'a'. Though even in England, they use both. Of course, perhaps you simply don't know very much. That was the only charitable explanation I could think of for your ignorance.
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accelafine wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 4:50 am
attofishpi wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:51 am
Sculptor wrote: Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:25 pm The simple fact is that the way Israel has chosen to wage this conflict can only have one result; to create a new generation of Hamas fighters from the parentless children and childless parents, that now scratch for food and water from the ruins.
Exactly. It's also breeding anti-Israel thoughts in children of the West Bank, Lebanon and other Islamic countries.

Certainly the IDF should never have bombed residential buildings (destroying them) - war crimes abound.

I think they should have had a ground offensive at the outset using commando and any elite forces first. This would no doubt have more military casualties, but something had to be done but the mass killing of civilians should never be an option.
I'm sure Israel would appreciate your 'sage advice', all the way from Australia ( one of America's little bitches in the ME). Australia, where there were protests calling for the gassing of Jews BEFORE Israel took any action to get the hostages back.
So what is your point?
Are you agreeing that Israel's actions are ramping up the anti Israel feeling?
Or are you using this snippet of information to suggest Israel is doing the right thing?
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accelafine wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 8:06 am You hate Jews for one. Oops. i mean 'zionists'. There's a difference you know :roll:
There is , unless you are a US congressman.
ALl my Jewish friends are against Zionism, and Have always thought it was a bad idea.
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It's a war of words.
Plenty to go round. Select the delusion you want. But it does not change the fact that when an occuplying force has bulldozers as part of its arsenal the aim is genocide.
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Sculptor wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 10:07 am It's a war of words.
Plenty to go round. Select the delusion you want. But it does not change the fact that when an occuplying force has bulldozers as part of its arsenal the aim is genocide.

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What the fuck is wrong with you? You believe every bit of bullshit that comes from Hamas, but dismiss all the atrocities against Jews. What is that cheapo scrap of screenshot with the hashtags? :mrgreen: Do you think they humanely euthanised all those babies and children?

It's not hard to see how the Holocaust happened.

Brilliant counterargument: ''All of my Jewish friends hate zionists'' :lol: What are 'zioninsts' anyway? Anyone who thinks Israel has a right to exist? I don't think there are any 'zionists' around today. That ship has long since sailed. Israel is there. Now. Just as the US is there, now. And Canada. And Australia. And Egypt. And probably every country on the planet.
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accelafine wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 10:17 am Just as the US is there, now. And Canada. And Australia. And Egypt. And probably every country on the planet.
What!!? You actually think that every country on the planet exists? Wow, you're a genius, thanks for letting us all know.

..are you sure Israel Isreal?
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Typical of the hypocrisy of so-called self-proclaimed 'Marxists'. Pretend to care so much about Gazans, yet couldn't give a rat's arse that the leaders of Hamas are billionaires-- billions that were stolen from the people of Gaza. Leaders who look down their noses at the place to the extent that they won't even live there.
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attofishpi wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 10:29 am
accelafine wrote: Thu Dec 07, 2023 10:17 am Just as the US is there, now. And Canada. And Australia. And Egypt. And probably every country on the planet.
What!!? You actually think that every country on the planet exists? Wow, you're a genius, thanks for letting us all know.

..are you sure Israel Isreal?
Did you evolve in Australia? If you didn't then you really should leave. There were people there before you.
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