The thoughts of Nisargadatta Maharaj

[seeds]

The Big Bang Point that contained all matter and energy in the universe had nothing external to it.

And you know this, HOW?

I suggest that your insisting that nothing existed external to the point (the "singularity") from which the universe emerged, is like saying that nothing existed externally to the pinpoint singularity of nothingness from which your own mind somehow manifested into existence on the inside of a brain that was formed in your mother's womb.

My goodness, it's amazing that people cannot see the parallels I am providing that show what the singularity of the Big Bang really was.

For it appears to have begun in precisely the same way that our own minds began.

And that would be from an infinitesimal point of nothingness from which a new (universe creating) soul emerged into existence from the "cosmic womb" of a prior soul who - in the context of its eternal life - had made it to the heights of creative control over the mental fabric of its very own being, as is depicted in one of my fanciful illustrations...



(Note: if anyone is interested in reading the blurry dialogue, then it comes through clearer in this link: http://theultimateseeds.com/Images/11%20page%2013.jpg)

In the meantime, if you just look into the spatial arena of your own mind, you will see that it is simply an un-ordered (embryonic) version of the same type of spatial arena you see when you look out into the universe. Both of which are filled with holographic-like manifestations of what we call "reality," with one merely being more ordered and more highly resolved than the other. And more importantly, both containing a central, self-aware consciousness who can willfully shape the mental holography into absolutely anything it wishes.

For crying out loud, when seen in the proper light, the parallels between our minds and the mind of God (the universe) are almost too obvious.

Furthermore, I'm sorry if my illustrations annoy everyone. However, I created them in order to help me explain my theory in these types of debates, and I see no reason not to employ them simply because a bunch of jaded old atheists who, according to Einstein,...

"...are like slaves who are still feeling the weight of their chains which they have thrown off after hard struggle..."

...and thus get upset with me for uploading drawings that imply the existence of a transcendent intelligence, which, in truth, is simply the "fully-fruitioned" (adult) version of what was once an "ultimate seed" just like us.

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[seeds]

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Your Big Tree Acorn, infinitely larger than The Big Bang Point that contained all matter and energy in the universe, requires externals such as wind to grow into a tree. Wind is not within the acorn and without wind, there can be no tree.

You asked me how all of the matter and energy of the universe could have fit into the infinitesimal singularity associated with the Big Bang theory, and I gave you the answer to that question in a proverbial "nutshell" (pun intended)...





...the details of which i sorted out in a book I published back in 2008 titled:



As always, I freely admit that I could be wrong.

However, the bottom line is that what I am presenting is a vision of reality that is so simple, so natural, so organic, and so full of infinite potential and beauty for every human ever awakened into existence, that its irrefutable confirmation must be kept from us until death so that we are not compelled to seek it out prematurely.

Not that I expect you will do this, but you are certainly free to view the general contents of the book on my website: http://www.theultimateseeds.com/

Now, with all of that being said, and without you quoting "Nissy," how about you give me your own personal theory regarding our ultimate and eternal destiny?
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[Dontaskme]

For crying out loud, when seen in the proper light, the parallels between our minds and the mind of God (the universe) are almost too obvious.

The ineffable mind.

The absolute.

We cannot know the ABSOLUTE, because we are it.

In the same context: a mountain cannot know it is a mountain, there's just nothing mountaining.

[Walker]

Hey seeds, I’ll ponder your posting as evidence of what you consider a truly logical and precise explanation, to be.

This next one is a biggie.

SNM: In death only the body dies. Life does not, consciousness
does not, reality does not. And the life is never so alive as after
death.

[Walker]

- You know what they say … The wind blows in many directions but only God can make a tree.

Who says that other than idiots?

Now Gary. Don't be mean. Be nice.

Those who say it, whoever they are, are not limited by science or art.

The line combines a scientifically identified element required for tree creation, with the last line of a famous poem of dubious artistic merit and of course a theological assertion that just nixes everything for God-haters, which is likely why Joyce saved it for the last line. You may know of it.

Trees
By Joyce Kilmer

I think that I shall never see
A poem lovely as a tree.

A tree whose hungry mouth is prest
Against the earth's sweet flowing breast;

A tree that looks at God all day,
And lifts her leafy arms to pray;

A tree that may in summer wear
A nest of robins in her hair;

Upon whose bosom snow has lain;
Who intimately lives with rain.

Poems are made by fools like me,
But only God can make a tree.


Commentary: He was a boy named Joyce, which doesn't rhyme with how do you do.

[Gary Childress]

And the life is never so alive as after death.[/b]

I doubt it. But to be nice, it's a nice way to look at things.

[Sculptor]

“… in the stillness of the mind I saw myself as I am — unbound …”

This is probably one of my favorite quotes ever.

[Dontaskme]

“… in the stillness of the mind I saw myself as I am — unbound …”

This is probably one of my favorite quotes ever.

A still mind is like a still wind, it takes wind to make a tree. The breath of life.



The breath of life is in the sunlight and the hand of life is in the wind. Life and respiration are complementary. There is nothing living which does not breathe nor anything breathing which does not live.

[Sculptor]

“… in the stillness of the mind I saw myself as I am — unbound …”

This is probably one of my favorite quotes ever.

A still mind is like a still wind, it takes wind to make a tree. The breath of life.



The breath of life is in the sunlight and the hand of life is in the wind. Life and respiration are complementary. There is nothing living which does not breathe nor anything breathing which does not live.

Not true either factually or metaphorically.

[Dontaskme]

Not true either factually or metaphorically.

That's not true.

[Sculptor]

Not true either factually or metaphorically.

That's not true.

Prove it

[Dontaskme]

Not true either factually or metaphorically.

That's not true.

Prove it

If it were true, you wouldn't need to ask for proof..

[Dontaskme]

And the life is never so alive as after death.

Why did the philosopher cross the road? To get to the other side of the argument.

I doubt it. But to be nice, it's a nice way to look at things.

Existentialists would insist that you haven't lived until you constantly think about death.

[Sculptor]

That's not true.

Prove it

If it were true, you wouldn't need to ask for proof..

Indeed, and you have just shot yourself in the foot.

[Dontaskme]

Prove it

If it were true, you wouldn't need to ask for proof..

Indeed, and you have just shot yourself in the foot.

Prove it.