Wonkers and Israel

[seeds]

By gum, that could use an inspirational soundtrack. Airpods make reality soundtracks possible.

E by gum. Since you like it simplistic I thought you might like this truth.



"Surgical strikes causing unintentional collaterol damage""

The futility of getting through to certain individuals is painful to experience.

However, I'm sure that Walker can come up with a beautiful and deeply spiritual quote from Nisargadatta that has led him (Walker) to believe that it was perfectly okay for a western-backed Jewish army to violently expel the Palestinians from their homes and lands and imprison them in a concentration camp.
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[seeds]

Those Rabbis (there are many with YouTube channels) seem to me captured by their mythologies.

Of course they are captured by mythology.

Can there exist any hardcore proponents of any specific religion who aren't captured by the religion's mythologies?

The fact that so many divisive and incompatible mythologies exist (and that includes materialism) is precisely why we are in this fine mess.

But right now all Israel is captured in dozens of layers of consequence. How this resolves itself is anyone’s guess.

Well, apparently, it's going to resolve itself in the self-fulfilling Armageddon prophecy that seems to have been pre-scripted in the Bible, which includes verses like this...

"And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened." -- Matthew 24:22

The question is, is it self-fulfilling because that's the way God wants it to go?...

...Or...

...Is it self-fulfilling because humans are simply acting-out what ancient minds have scripted?

Perhaps it's a little of both, in that the fulfillment of certain prophecies is one way for God to demonstrate to humans that there is something larger in control of reality without fully revealing what that "something" truly is.

For example, I personally think that this particular prophecy from the book of Revelation, 9:1...

"And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit."

...was fulfilled when the "key" to matter -- E=MC^2 -- was "given" to Einstein, which then helped usher-in quantum mechanics, which, in turn, has not only radically changed the world, but has also helped to reveal the illusory ("mind-like") nature of the universe.

(See my full exposition of that idea (i.e., a full interpretation of Revelation, chapter 9) in this post here: viewtopic.php?p=335026#p335026)

Anyway, no matter what, as I have suggested many times before, all religions are nothing more than "pacifying teats" for us worldlings to suckle-on until the ultimate truth of reality is revealed to us at the moment of death.
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[iambiguous]

Let's try not to lose track of some truly basic facts here...

1] there are extremists on both sides sustaining this slaughter of the innocents
2] they are extremists because they are religious fanatics able to rationalize the slaughter of the innocents in the name of God
3] it's the same God

That and the role played by the military industrial complex in supplying these fanatics with the tools of their trade. Unless, of course, the corporations who manufacture the weapons used to slaughter the innocent are actually donating them free of charge for "the cause".

Then going back historically to the events that brought about the state of Israel.

There's this narrative: https://youtu.be/zE8GCX1w3ys?si=Q7et0JAV01lcFbQl

And the equivalent of it from the Zionist perspective?

[Peter Kropotkin]

IAM has an excellent point... the wars fought since 1900, have
been wars financed to make money for the weapons makers...

Hitler was financed by British bankers as was Lenin,
the idea is to put money into the hands
of the politicians, and they will happily begin a war for you...
given that the price is right.. and politicians are plentiful
and very cheap... supply and demand suggests that it
doesn't take much money to get politicians to start a war...
and the weapons makers? why they rake in the bucks...
from the Krupps of Germany to the modern day Haliburton's....
Israel makes a lot of weapons... thus the arms makers are motivated
to cause a war in Israel... they make money off of death...

want the real cause of this Israeli war and the conflict in the Ukraine...
money.. corporations got together and paid off enough politicians to
start both wars.... every single war for over 100 years has money
at is heart...... the modern day war.... a simple cash grab by
weapons makers...nothing more, nothing less....

Kropotkin

[Gary Childress]

Let's try not to lose track of some truly basic facts here...

1] there are extremists on both sides sustaining this slaughter of the innocents
2] they are extremists because they are religious fanatics able to rationalize the slaughter of the innocents in the name of God
3] it's the same God

That and the role played by the military industrial complex in supplying these fanatics with the tools of their trade. Unless, of course, the corporations who manufacture the weapons used to slaughter the innocent are actually donating them free of charge for "the cause".

Then going back historically to the events that brought about the state of Israel.

There's this narrative: https://youtu.be/zE8GCX1w3ys?si=Q7et0JAV01lcFbQl

And the equivalent of it from the Zionist perspective?

The post above pretty much sums the situation up and does it well, IMO.

[Sculptor]

By gum, that could use an inspirational soundtrack. Airpods make reality soundtracks possible.

E by gum. Since you like it simplistic I thought you might like this truth.



"Surgical strikes causing unintentional collaterol damage""

The futility of getting through to certain individuals is painful to experience.

However, I'm sure that Walker can come up with a beautiful and deeply spiritual quote from Nisargadatta that has led him (Walker) to believe that it was perfectly okay for a western-backed Jewish army to violently expel the Palestinians from their homes and lands and imprison them in a concentration camp.
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It's puzzling.
Either he is ignoring the history of the last 75 years; he genuinely does not give a damn about genocide; or he's just being a contrarian?
Such people are baffling to me.

[Atla]

Here's some more context though why the Zionists would get this much support from the Christian West, it's not just about money:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_To-cV94Bo

[accelafine]

By gum, that could use an inspirational soundtrack. Airpods make reality soundtracks possible.

E by gum. Since you like it simplistic I thought you might like this truth.



"Surgical strikes causing unintentional collaterol damage""

The futility of getting through to certain individuals is painful to experience.

However, I'm sure that Walker can come up with a beautiful and deeply spiritual quote from Nisargadatta that has led him (Walker) to believe that it was perfectly okay for a western-backed Jewish army to violently expel the Palestinians from their homes and lands and imprison them in a concentration camp.
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Is your comment satirical?

[accelafine]

E by gum. Since you like it simplistic I thought you might like this truth.



"Surgical strikes causing unintentional collaterol damage""

The futility of getting through to certain individuals is painful to experience.

However, I'm sure that Walker can come up with a beautiful and deeply spiritual quote from Nisargadatta that has led him (Walker) to believe that it was perfectly okay for a western-backed Jewish army to violently expel the Palestinians from their homes and lands and imprison them in a concentration camp.
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It's puzzling.
Either he is ignoring the history of the last 75 years; he genuinely does not give a damn about genocide; or he's just being a contrarian?
Such people are baffling to me.

Or you are ignoring the history of Great Britain and the US.

[Sculptor]

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Maybe this will jog a conscience in god fearing Walker?

[Walker]

Not only do I have no blood on my hands, I have identified the cause of the troubles.

[Gary Childress]

Here's some more context though why the Zionists would get this much support from the Christian West, it's not just about money:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_To-cV94Bo

That's a sobering video.

[Walker]

Here's some more context though why the Zionists would get this much support from the Christian West, it's not just about money:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_To-cV94Bo

That's a sobering video.

Make an effort for once, and explain why it's sobering. Good grief, make yourself useful.

[Gary Childress]

Here's some more context though why the Zionists would get this much support from the Christian West, it's not just about money:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_To-cV94Bo

That's a sobering video.

Make an effort for once, and explain why it's sobering. Good grief, make yourself useful.

It's sobering because it seems to put the onus of evil on Islam. Perhaps Islam is the ultimate expression of "religion", the ultimate solution for "believer" versus "unbeliever". Eradicate the "unbelievers" in the name of "good", in the name of "heaven" on Earth. It even originates in the Abrahamic tradition. If there's a God, judging from Islam's success, I'd say God doesn't seem to have too much of a problem with it.

As I've said elsewhere, let's just all ditch God and try something else.

[Walker]

It's puzzling.

You always take the Chickenshit Pathway no matter the topic, don’t you Sculptor. Fortunately, you may be a faux judge but you are not also a real jury and executioner.

You seem to lack the moral framework to comprehend, to distinguish between what Hamas did against civilization, humanity and decency, from what Israel does in order to prevent future atrocities against Israel, by forces that have vowed Israel's extermination.

Pictures of babies? Get real, Chickenshit. Israel will do what it takes to survive, including offend you. By Any Means Necessary, because Israel is at War for its survival.

What irony for the Jew Hating Democrats Who Hate America (a hatred of Jews explained in Mark Levin's best selling book), who apply any means necessary to politics for aquiring power and crushing opposition.