Is morality objective or subjective?

[Dontaskme]

The important point is rather that the Atheist claims to have no evidence for God, while refusing to set any test for evidence.

Given that he refuses to specify how anything at all could ever convince him of the existence of God, how can it be a surprise to anybody that he continues to claim he's seen no such evidence?

It's exactly what one would expect: no test, no results.

If there was something other than God then God would not be God.
Why would an all one God and only God need to test whether he exists or not when he already exists?





Deuteronomy 4:29
But if from there you will seek the LORD your God, you will find Him if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul.

This quote implies two not one.
The Bible emphatically declares that there is one, and only one, God. Not “gods”—plural.

Please explain ?who? is this 'other' that seeks and finds GOD.

[Harbal]

Deuteronomy 4:29
But if from there you will seek the LORD your God, you will find Him if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul.

It strikes me that you could convince yourself of almost anything if you put all your heart and all your soul into persuading yourself to believe it.

[Dontaskme]

Deuteronomy 4:29
But if from there you will seek the LORD your God, you will find Him if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul.

It strikes me that you could convince yourself of almost anything if you put all your heart and all your soul into persuading yourself to believe it.

I believe Cinderella exists, I've seen her in a Disney Movie.

[Immanuel Can]

So what is it you actually believe as regards a "god"?

I'm not sure what your question is supposed to be asking, or what particular point among many is what you're trying to address here. The most direct answer is, "quite a lot of things," but I'm pretty sure that's not what you want. Can you refine the question?

Such obfuscation.
We ask for proof and you cannot even say of what.

Where is the word "proof" in your question? I didn't even know what you are asking for. You just said, "What do you believe, etc...?" That's one heck of a broad question to ask about anything, let alone the Supreme Being.

So what did you want, by way of proof?

[Immanuel Can]

Deuteronomy 4:29
But if from there you will seek the LORD your God, you will find Him if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul.

It strikes me that you could convince yourself of almost anything if you put all your heart and all your soul into persuading yourself to believe it.

Except you're not being told to "convince yourself" of anything. You're being invited to reach out, to search, to examine the case.

You're being promised success, if you will genuinely seek for God.

[FlashDangerpants]

You guys just let IC right off the hook and put it back to his home game where he gets to blame you for your lack of faith which makes you blind to truth.

[Age]

I'm not sure what your question is supposed to be asking, or what particular point among many is what you're trying to address here. The most direct answer is, "quite a lot of things," but I'm pretty sure that's not what you want. Can you refine the question?

Such obfuscation.
We ask for proof and you cannot even say of what.

Where is the word "proof" in your question? I didn't even know what you are asking for. You just said, "What do you believe, etc...?"

There IS NO 'do' word in 'that question', NEITHER.

That's one heck of a broad question to ask about anything, let alone the Supreme Being.

Although 'that question' may have been, supposedly, 'broad', to 'you', "immanuel can", which then 'allows' 'you' to REFUSE to JUST ANSWER the VERY SIMPLE and OPEN QUESTION. BUT, I have ALREADY ANSWERED, FOR 'you', 'the QUESTION' ASKED, TO 'you', "immanuel can".

What 'it' is that 'you' actually BELIEVE in regards to a "god", or God, is that 'you' ABSOLUTELY BELIEVE that God IS a 'male'.

So what did you want, by way of proof?

[Age]

You guys just let IC right off the hook and put it back to his home game where he gets to blame you for your lack of faith which makes you blind to truth.

IF 'my posts' WERE being SEEN and READ by 'these posters' here, then 'they' would have REALIZED that 'I' have NEVER so-called 'let, "immanuel can", off the hook', AT ALL.

"immanuel can" has BECOME and EXPERT MANIPULATOR. But this is ONLY BECAUSE 'it' has HAD TO LEARN HOW to DEFLECT and DETRACT, SO OFTEN, FROM 'its' OWN complete and utter False, Wrong, AND Incorrect BELIEFS here.

OBVIOUSLY "immanuel can" could NEVER back up and support ANY of ALL of the Truly ABSURD and False BELIEFS that 'it' HOLDS ONTO here. So, 'it' HAS HAD TO LEARN how TO DECEIVE and TRICK NOT just "its" OWN 'self' but ALSO "others" AS WELL.

And, PART OF LYING, DECEPTION, and DECEIVING "others" IS TRICKING and FOOLING 'them' INTO BELIEVING that it IS 'them' who can NOT SEE the so-called "real picture".

[FlashDangerpants]

You guys just let IC right off the hook and put it back to his home game where he gets to blame you for your lack of faith which makes you blind to truth.

IF 'my posts' WERE being SEEN and READ by 'these posters' here

You don't count. My comments were for the other people.

[Age]

You guys just let IC right off the hook and put it back to his home game where he gets to blame you for your lack of faith which makes you blind to truth.

IF 'my posts' WERE being SEEN and READ by 'these posters' here

You don't count. My comments were for the other people.

Okay. But as long as 'you' ALREADY KNEW that I have NEVER 'let, "immanuel can", off the hook', as some call 'it', and that I have made it CLEAR that I have NOT, then all is well and good here.

[Immanuel Can]

I believe Cinderella exists, I've seen her in a Disney Movie.

That's a good comment on subjective morality, actually: "I imagined my actions were moral, so they were."

[Dontaskme]

I believe Cinderella exists, I've seen her in a Disney Movie.

That's a good comment on subjective morality, actually: "I imagined my actions were moral, so they were."

Cinderella's image can be seen as imaged.

But where's God's image? Hmm, still no show, and no show = no God.

Keep plugging the fictional character IC, it's all you can know.

[Dontaskme]

Except you're not being told to "convince yourself" of anything. You're being invited to reach out, to search, to examine the case.

You're being promised success, if you will genuinely seek for God.

If there was something other than God then God would not be God.
Why would an all one God and only God need to test whether he exists or not when he already exists?

You IC seem reluctant to address this comment, why is that ?

Deuteronomy 4:29
But if from there you will seek the LORD your God, you will find Him if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul.

This quote implies two not one.
The Bible emphatically declares that there is one, and only one, God. Not “gods”—plural.
Please explain ?who? is this 'other' that seeks and finds GOD.

And reluctant to address this too, why is that?

[Harbal]

Deuteronomy 4:29
But if from there you will seek the LORD your God, you will find Him if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul.

It strikes me that you could convince yourself of almost anything if you put all your heart and all your soul into persuading yourself to believe it.

Except you're not being told to "convince yourself" of anything. You're being invited to reach out, to search, to examine the case.

You're being promised success, if you will genuinely seek for God.

I have no reason to think there is a God, and more than enough reason to think there isn't, which leaves me rather short of motivation to go looking for him.

I have also heard what you and others have said about God, and what it is like to believe in him, none of which attracts me in the slightest, so again, no motivation.

Btw, you didn't respond to my reply on page 412. Am I to assume we are no longer perusing that particular line of enquiry?

[Dontaskme]

"I imagined my actions were moral, so they were."

I imagine I exist so I do.

I imagine God exist so God does.

Harbal was right to say: ''It strikes me that you could convince yourself of almost anything if you put all your heart and all your soul into persuading yourself to believe it.''