And what is she supposed to say to them? "The problem is that you people believe that you exist?"Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:46 pmIf you're concerned with adult human beings who are creating wars and destruction, then address them. Most of us here aren't employed by militaries or industries that are destroying the world, nor condone the destruction that is happening in the world. Some of us want the wars and destruction to stop and are speaking up about it. When you say, "you adult human beings" are the cause of our problems, you are writing in a way that suggests, EVERY entity that is an "adult human being" is responsible for what is happening.Age wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:39 pm Unless, OF COURSE, 'you', "gary childress" WANT to CONTINUE on 'your' path of that 'you', adult human beings, ARE COMPLETELY INNOCENT, and ARE ALL JUST 'victims', BECAUSE some OTHER 'thing' IS CREATING ALL of those WARS, and DESTRUCTION, IN 'that world' in which 'you' ALL LIVE IN.
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I'm suggesting that s/he go annoy people on a military website since s/he seems to be good at annoying people.Atla wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:56 pmAnd what is she supposed to say to them? "The problem is that you people believe that you exist?"Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:46 pmIf you're concerned with adult human beings who are creating wars and destruction, then address them. Most of us here aren't employed by militaries or industries that are destroying the world, nor condone the destruction that is happening in the world. Some of us want the wars and destruction to stop and are speaking up about it. When you say, "you adult human beings" are the cause of our problems, you are writing in a way that suggests, EVERY entity that is an "adult human being" is responsible for what is happening.Age wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:39 pm Unless, OF COURSE, 'you', "gary childress" WANT to CONTINUE on 'your' path of that 'you', adult human beings, ARE COMPLETELY INNOCENT, and ARE ALL JUST 'victims', BECAUSE some OTHER 'thing' IS CREATING ALL of those WARS, and DESTRUCTION, IN 'that world' in which 'you' ALL LIVE IN.
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I doubt there's any other active forum on the internet where she wouldn't get banned after a few comments..Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:57 pmI'm suggesting that s/he go annoy people on a military website since s/he seems to be good at annoying people.Atla wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:56 pmAnd what is she supposed to say to them? "The problem is that you people believe that you exist?"Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:46 pm
If you're concerned with adult human beings who are creating wars and destruction, then address them. Most of us here aren't employed by militaries or industries that are destroying the world, nor condone the destruction that is happening in the world. Some of us want the wars and destruction to stop and are speaking up about it. When you say, "you adult human beings" are the cause of our problems, you are writing in a way that suggests, EVERY entity that is an "adult human being" is responsible for what is happening.
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I don't know. I have been to a forum or two that catered to military personnel. I told them in one that we shouldn't be fighting wars that Congress hasn't officially declared. Some of them got pissed and a few others seemed to agree. They didn't kick me off. I started to feel badly for the consternation I was causing and so I haven't been there in a while and I have forgotten the web address but it had something to do with military personnel. Since Age seems to have no problem with annoying people, maybe he would last longer there than I did?Atla wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:58 pmI doubt there's any other active forum on the internet where she wouldn't get banned after a few comments..Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:57 pmI'm suggesting that s/he go annoy people on a military website since s/he seems to be good at annoying people.
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1. Just so I make "myself" CLEARER and BETTER UNDERSTOOD here, the USE of the 'evidence' here does NOT WORK, for 'me'. The word 'proof' however DOES, and DOES WORK PERFECTLY, for 'me' AS WELL. And 'this' IS BECAUSE OF what the word 'evidence' MEANS and REFERS TO, EXACTLY.Atla wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:17 pmNO, that EVIDENCE for that has NOT ALWAYS BEEN THERE, but NOW it IS.Age wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:10 pmONCE MORE, and ONCE AGAIN, 'you' have MANAGED TO STILL COMPLETELY and UTTERLY MISS the POINT.
The EVIDENCE, and the ACTUAL PROOF, that the earth revolves around the sun HAS ALWAYS BEEN HERE, for ALL TO LOOK AT, and SEE. JUST LIKE the ACTUAL PROOF for what I AM SAYING and CLAIMING HAS ALWAYS BEEN HERE, for ALL TO LOOK AT, and SEE.
However, 'you', living IN the days when this is being written, it IS VERY EASY and SIMPLE for 'you' TO CLAIM that the EVIDENCE that the earth revolves around the sun IS 'THERE for ALL TO SEE', BUT 'you' would NOT have even been REMOTELY CLOSE to SAYING 'this' IF 'you' WERE living IN 'the days', IN THE PAST.
'you', "atla", IF 'you' lived IN 'those days', would have been the PRIME CANDIDATE for BEING the VERY one ATTEMPTING TO ANTAGONIZE, the MOST, 'the one' who WAS SAYING and CLAIMING that, ACTUALLY, it IS the earth that revolves around the sun, WHILE CLAIMING that 'that' IS a HUGE CLAIM of which there is NO evidence NOR PROOF FOR AT ALL. ALL WHILE ENCOURAGING "others" to JUMP ON 'your' BAND WAGON, and some might say, and HELP IN the OSTRACIZING and RIDICULING OF 'the one' MAKING the such an APPARENT OUTLANDISH and OUTRAGEOUS CLAIM.
'you' ARE SO LOST and CONFUSED here "atla" 'you' are, ONCE AGAIN, GOING SO FAR OFF TRACK.
IF 'you' living BACK IN the so-called 'olden days', WHEN EVERY one BESIDES one BELIEVED that the sun revolves around the earth, THEN, ALL of "those others" HAD NOT YET SEEN, FOR "themselves", what 'the one' ACTUALLY ALREADY HAD, which was; the EVIDENCE and the PROOF that ACTUALLY it IS the earth that revolves around the sun, and NOT the OTHER WAY AROUND as EVERY one "ELSE" WAS 'seeing' and 'believing'.
One day, HOPEFULLY, 'you' ALSO WILL GET TO SEE and UNDERSTAND 'this' here "atla".
2. Now, the PROOF that the earth is NO flat, that the earth revolves around the sun, that there is ONLY One Mind, that there IS Intelligence existing within 'you', human beings, that the Universe did NOT begin, that the Universe is NOT expanding, and/or that the Universe IS infinite AND eternal, has ALWAYS been HERE, and NOW. That 'you', human beings, do NOT individually COME-TO-SEE and RECOGNIZE these IRREFUTABLE Facts ALL AT ONCE, IS EXTREMELY OBVIOUS. But, what is ALSO JUST AS OBVIOUS is that PROOF and Facts do NOT just COME-INTO-BEING. 'They' ARE ALWAYS HERE, for EVERY one TO LOOK AT, and SEE.
3. 'you', human beings, in the days when this is being written, however, just need TO LEARN HOW TO LOOK AT and SEE 'things' for HOW 'they' ARE, EXACTLY.
4. WHEN is 'NOW' TO 'you', "atla"?
ONCE AGAIN, 'this one' is STILL YET TO COMPREHEND and UNDERSTAND that just like SOME CLAIMED that there is STILL NO EVIDENCE and NO PROOF for 'the' CLAIM that ACTUALLY the earth revolves around the sun, although the ACTUAL PROOF WAS ALWAYS EXISTING, 'they' ONLY thought or BELIEVED 'this' BECAUSE 'they' WERE ALSO ONLY LOOKING and SEEING FROM just a NARROWED or CLOSED perspective of 'things'.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:10 pm But even NOW, there is STILL NO EVIDENCE and NO PROOF for 'your' CLAIM.
ONCE AGAIN, 'this one' USES the 'dishonest' word in what some would SAY is IN the MOST Dishonest and/or DECEIVING WAY.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:10 pm So you UTTERLY AND COMPLETELY MISS the POINT AGAIN and are COMPLETELY DISHONEST.
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But you said relevant things. I imagine Age would start shouting that militaries and Congresses don't actually exist, they are just making all that stuff up, which makes them evil etc. and then she would get banned.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 2:03 pmI don't know. I have been to a forum or two that catered to military personnel. I told them in one that we shouldn't be fighting wars that Congress hasn't officially declared. Some of them got pissed and a few others seemed to agree. They didn't kick me off. I started to feel badly for the consternation I was causing and so I haven't been there in a while and I have forgotten the web address but it had something to do with military personnel. Since Age seems to have no problem with annoying people, maybe he would last longer than I did?Atla wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:58 pmI doubt there's any other active forum on the internet where she wouldn't get banned after a few comments..Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:57 pm
I'm suggesting that s/he go annoy people on a military website since s/he seems to be good at annoying people.
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I didn't make those remarks, Age. Please do not quote me for things I did not say. Thank you.Age wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 2:04 pm1. Just so I make "myself" CLEARER and BETTER UNDERSTOOD here, the USE of the 'evidence' here does NOT WORK, for 'me'. The word 'proof' however DOES, and DOES WORK PERFECTLY, for 'me' AS WELL. And 'this' IS BECAUSE OF what the word 'evidence' MEANS and REFERS TO, EXACTLY.Atla wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:17 pmNO, that EVIDENCE for that has NOT ALWAYS BEEN THERE, but NOW it IS.Age wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:10 pm
ONCE MORE, and ONCE AGAIN, 'you' have MANAGED TO STILL COMPLETELY and UTTERLY MISS the POINT.
The EVIDENCE, and the ACTUAL PROOF, that the earth revolves around the sun HAS ALWAYS BEEN HERE, for ALL TO LOOK AT, and SEE. JUST LIKE the ACTUAL PROOF for what I AM SAYING and CLAIMING HAS ALWAYS BEEN HERE, for ALL TO LOOK AT, and SEE.
However, 'you', living IN the days when this is being written, it IS VERY EASY and SIMPLE for 'you' TO CLAIM that the EVIDENCE that the earth revolves around the sun IS 'THERE for ALL TO SEE', BUT 'you' would NOT have even been REMOTELY CLOSE to SAYING 'this' IF 'you' WERE living IN 'the days', IN THE PAST.
'you', "atla", IF 'you' lived IN 'those days', would have been the PRIME CANDIDATE for BEING the VERY one ATTEMPTING TO ANTAGONIZE, the MOST, 'the one' who WAS SAYING and CLAIMING that, ACTUALLY, it IS the earth that revolves around the sun, WHILE CLAIMING that 'that' IS a HUGE CLAIM of which there is NO evidence NOR PROOF FOR AT ALL. ALL WHILE ENCOURAGING "others" to JUMP ON 'your' BAND WAGON, and some might say, and HELP IN the OSTRACIZING and RIDICULING OF 'the one' MAKING the such an APPARENT OUTLANDISH and OUTRAGEOUS CLAIM.
'you' ARE SO LOST and CONFUSED here "atla" 'you' are, ONCE AGAIN, GOING SO FAR OFF TRACK.
IF 'you' living BACK IN the so-called 'olden days', WHEN EVERY one BESIDES one BELIEVED that the sun revolves around the earth, THEN, ALL of "those others" HAD NOT YET SEEN, FOR "themselves", what 'the one' ACTUALLY ALREADY HAD, which was; the EVIDENCE and the PROOF that ACTUALLY it IS the earth that revolves around the sun, and NOT the OTHER WAY AROUND as EVERY one "ELSE" WAS 'seeing' and 'believing'.
One day, HOPEFULLY, 'you' ALSO WILL GET TO SEE and UNDERSTAND 'this' here "atla".
2. Now, the PROOF that the earth is NO flat, that the earth revolves around the sun, that there is ONLY One Mind, that there IS Intelligence existing within 'you', human beings, that the Universe did NOT begin, that the Universe is NOT expanding, and/or that the Universe IS infinite AND eternal, has ALWAYS been HERE, and NOW. That 'you', human beings, do NOT individually COME-TO-SEE and RECOGNIZE these IRREFUTABLE Facts ALL AT ONCE, IS EXTREMELY OBVIOUS. But, what is ALSO JUST AS OBVIOUS is that PROOF and Facts do NOT just COME-INTO-BEING. 'They' ARE ALWAYS HERE, for EVERY one TO LOOK AT, and SEE.
3. 'you', human beings, in the days when this is being written, however, just need TO LEARN HOW TO LOOK AT and SEE 'things' for HOW 'they' ARE, EXACTLY.
4. WHEN is 'NOW' TO 'you', "atla"?
ONCE AGAIN, 'this one' is STILL YET TO COMPREHEND and UNDERSTAND that just like SOME CLAIMED that there is STILL NO EVIDENCE and NO PROOF for 'the' CLAIM that ACTUALLY the earth revolves around the sun, although the ACTUAL PROOF WAS ALWAYS EXISTING, 'they' ONLY thought or BELIEVED 'this' BECAUSE 'they' WERE ALSO ONLY LOOKING and SEEING FROM just a NARROWED or CLOSED perspective of 'things'.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:10 pm But even NOW, there is STILL NO EVIDENCE and NO PROOF for 'your' CLAIM.
ONCE AGAIN, 'this one' USES the 'dishonest' word in what some would SAY is IN the MOST Dishonest and/or DECEIVING WAY.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:10 pm So you UTTERLY AND COMPLETELY MISS the POINT AGAIN and are COMPLETELY DISHONEST.
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Well, that's because Age is not speaking in ways that s/he could best communicate what needs to be communicated. Hopefully, s/he will improve over time.Atla wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 2:05 pmBut you said relevant things. I imagine Age would start shouting that militaries and Congresses don't actually exist, they are just making all that stuff up, which makes them evil etc. and then she would get banned.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 2:03 pmI don't know. I have been to a forum or two that catered to military personnel. I told them in one that we shouldn't be fighting wars that Congress hasn't officially declared. Some of them got pissed and a few others seemed to agree. They didn't kick me off. I started to feel badly for the consternation I was causing and so I haven't been there in a while and I have forgotten the web address but it had something to do with military personnel. Since Age seems to have no problem with annoying people, maybe he would last longer than I did?
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Well good for you, that looks like material worth at least 5 Nobel prizes. I envy your wisdom.Age wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 2:04 pm 2. Now, the PROOF that the earth is NO flat, that the earth revolves around the sun, that there is ONLY One Mind, that there IS Intelligence existing within 'you', human beings, that the Universe did NOT begin, that the Universe is NOT expanding, and/or that the Universe IS infinite AND eternal, has ALWAYS been HERE, and NOW. That 'you', human beings, do NOT individually COME-TO-SEE and RECOGNIZE these IRREFUTABLE Facts ALL AT ONCE, IS EXTREMELY OBVIOUS. But, what is ALSO JUST AS OBVIOUS is that PROOF and Facts do NOT just COME-INTO-BEING. 'They' ARE ALWAYS HERE, for EVERY one TO LOOK AT, and SEE.
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No, she literally means that people don't have their own minds and are just making the problems of the world up.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 2:07 pmWell, that's because Age is not speaking in ways that s/he could best communicate what needs to be communicated. Hopefully, s/he will improve over time.Atla wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 2:05 pmBut you said relevant things. I imagine Age would start shouting that militaries and Congresses don't actually exist, they are just making all that stuff up, which makes them evil etc. and then she would get banned.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 2:03 pm
I don't know. I have been to a forum or two that catered to military personnel. I told them in one that we shouldn't be fighting wars that Congress hasn't officially declared. Some of them got pissed and a few others seemed to agree. They didn't kick me off. I started to feel badly for the consternation I was causing and so I haven't been there in a while and I have forgotten the web address but it had something to do with military personnel. Since Age seems to have no problem with annoying people, maybe he would last longer than I did?
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MANY FOLLOWERS and/or BELIEVERS IN and/or OF 'what', EXACTLY, "atla"?Atla wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:23 pmThe OPPOSITE is true: 'you' are 'TRYING TO' GARNISH as MANY FOLLOWERS, and BELIEVERS, as 'you' can.Age wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:20 pmTo RESPOND to the EXTRA BITS here.Atla wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:55 pm
The EVIDENCE that the earth revolves around the sun is THERE for ALL TO SEE. BUT 'SEEING' something FOR 'themselves' is NOT what EVIDENCE is AT ALL. INSTEAD it is what MILLIONS of SELF-PROCLAIMED MESSENGERS of TRUTH before 'you' have ALREADY tried to PUSH DOWN our throats. WHEN WILL 'you' UNDERSTAND that it is 'you' who has been MISSING THE POINT ENTIRELY from the START?
The 'one' who WOULD HAVE BEEN the so-called 'self-proclaimed messenger of truth', BACK in the day, WAS ACTUALLY 'the one' who WAS TELLING the Truth and who WAS 'TRYING TO' EXPLAIN the ACTUAL Truth, that is; that ACTUALLY the earth revolves around the sun.
But there WERE 'people' just like 'you' "atla" who WOULD HAVE BEEN SAYING and CLAIMING that 'that one is just a 'self-proclaimed messenger of truth, who just tries to push LIES down our throats'.
All the one while 'TRYING TO' GARNISH as MANY FOLLOWERS, and BELIEVERS, as 'you' could to 'TRY TO' RIDICULE and HUMILIATE what 'that one' was just SAYING, and EXPLAINING.
Which IS MORE or LESS EXACTLY what 'you' ARE DOING, SHOWING, and PROVING Right here, now, in this forum, "atla".
'you' ARE DOING the VERY 'thing' that I WANTED TO SHOW "others" HOW 'the people's' BACK in 'those days' used to MISBEHAVE like, which WILL EXPLAIN EXACTLY WHY it took PAST 'human beings' TO REACH WHERE 'we' ARE NOW, HERE.
I have NOT YET EVEN BEGUN to even START TO EXPLAIN what 'it' IS that I REALLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT and SHARE?
So, 'what', EXACTLY, am I, SUPPOSEDLY, 'GARNISHING' FOLLOWERS and BELIEVERS IN, and HOW, EXACTLY, am I, SUPPOSEDLY, DOING 'this' GARNISHING?
1. What 'debate'? There NEVER WAS ANY ACTUAL 'thing' TO 'debate'. SOME were just OPEN to LISTENING, and HEARING, and LOOKING AT, and SEEING, what WAS ALWAYS ACTUALLY JUST True AND Right, while "others" just CONTINUED TO REMAIN CLOSED and ONLY LOOK AT and LISTEN TO what they HAD ALREADY CONCLUDED and BELIEVED was true.
2. The REST of 'your' CLAIM here is BASED SOLELY on 'your' OWN MADE UP PRESUMPTIONS and/or BELIEFS, ALONE, which IS OBVIOUSLY False, Wrong, Inaccurate, AND Incorrect, but which 'you' BELIEVE IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE.
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That part I haven't paid attention to, if that's what s/he's saying. I mostly notice Age constantly posting that "you [us] adult human beings" are causing all the world's problems.Atla wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 2:09 pmNo, she literally means that people don't have their own minds and are just making the problems of the world up.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 2:07 pmWell, that's because Age is not speaking in ways that s/he could best communicate what needs to be communicated. Hopefully, s/he will improve over time.
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Yeah but by 'you adult human beings' she neither means you, nor adult human beings, because she has no conception that such things exist.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 2:13 pmThat part I haven't paid attention to, if that's what s/he's saying. I mostly notice Age constantly posting that "you [us] adult human beings" are causing all the world's problems.Atla wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 2:09 pmNo, she literally means that people don't have their own minds and are just making the problems of the world up.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 2:07 pm
Well, that's because Age is not speaking in ways that s/he could best communicate what needs to be communicated. Hopefully, s/he will improve over time.
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What is the 'it' word here REFERRING TO, EXACTLY?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:24 pmSince you've been stating it incorrectly,Age wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:22 pmAre 'you' here SAYING and CLAIMING that 'you', "gary childress", ALSO have NOT YET COMPREHENDED and UNDERSTOOD what I have been SAYING and GETTING AT here?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:57 pm
It doesn't appear that your message is getting through, Age. Perhaps you have repeatedly been using the wrong means?
What have I, SUPPOSEDLY, been stating INCORRECTLY, EXACTLY?
Here we have ANOTHER GREAT example of just HOW MUCH 'these people', BACK THEN were NOT LISTENING, and NOT HEARING.
How many times have I suggested that if one Truly WANTS TO LEARN some 'thing' MORE, or ANEW, then it is ALWAYS BEST TO NOT BE ASSUMING ABSOLUTELY ANY 'thing'?
So, BASED ON the Fact that I have BEEN CONTINUALLY SUGGESTING that it IS BEST to NEVER ASSUME ABSOLUTELY ANY 'thing' AT ALL, EVER, then ASKING 'me' in regards to what 'you' SHOULD 'assume', just SHOWS and PROVES how LITTLE of what I have been SAYING here gets even RECOGNIZED, let alone HEARD and UNDERSTOOD.
ONCE AGAIN, 'you' ARE ABSOLUTELY FREE to CHOOSE TO THINK or DO ABSOLUTELY ANY 'thing' 'you' LIKE or WANT TO.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 1:24 pm Should I assume you're a basket case and of no good in this world? Or should I assume that you have a valid message but are unable to communicate it properly to many people on this forum.
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If s/he doesn't believe that adult human beings exist, then who is s/he addressing with statements like "you adult humans"? I took her/him to be saying that its adult human beings who are causing all the problems.Atla wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 2:16 pmYeah but by 'you adult human beings' she neither means you, nor adult human beings, because she has no conception that such things exist.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 2:13 pmThat part I haven't paid attention to, if that's what s/he's saying. I mostly notice Age constantly posting that "you [us] adult human beings" are causing all the world's problems.