There is no cure for mental illness
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Gary Childress
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There is no cure for mental illness
There is no hope. This world is unbelievably cruel. I never stood a chance of getting anywhere worthwhile, because there's nothing worthwhile to embrace in this world. How can God be so heartless?
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Re: There is no cure for mental illness
As usual you are looking at things wrong. Mental illness is the cure for sanity.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:56 am There is no hope. This world is unbelievably cruel. I never stood a chance of getting anywhere worthwhile, because there's nothing worthwhile to embrace in this world. How can God be so heartless?
ps. Stop blaming God (IT causes you more mental stress - love the entity, give thanks for your existence and things will improve)
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Re: There is no cure for mental illness
Life is lonely and hopeless. There's nothing for a lonely, hopeless person to love or be thankful for.attofishpi wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:52 am ps. Stop blaming God (IT causes you more mental stress - love the entity, give thanks for your existence and things will improve)
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When we keep arguing for our limitations we get to keep them.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 3:00 amLife is lonely and hopeless. There's nothing for a lonely, hopeless person to love or be thankful for.attofishpi wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:52 am ps. Stop blaming God (IT causes you more mental stress - love the entity, give thanks for your existence and things will improve)
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Re: There is no cure for mental illness
I'm not arguing "for" limitations. I'm complaining about them.attofishpi wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 3:27 amWhen we keep arguing for our limitations we get to keep them.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 3:00 amLife is lonely and hopeless. There's nothing for a lonely, hopeless person to love or be thankful for.attofishpi wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:52 am ps. Stop blaming God (IT causes you more mental stress - love the entity, give thanks for your existence and things will improve)
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How are 'you' defining the words 'this world' EXACTLY?
WHEN 'you' ARE CAPABLE OF DOING 'this', so that 'we' can SEE what 'you' are ACTUALLY talking ABOUT and referring TO, EXACTLY, THEN, and ONLY THEN, I will be ABLE TO SEE how 'this world', itself, COULD ACTUALLY BE 'cruel' in ANY way, let alone a so-called UNBELIEVABLY CRUEL way. That is; OF COURSE, IF 'this world' EVER COULD BE.
How long have 'you', "gary childress", KNOWN FOR that 'you' are an ABSOLUTE WORTHLESS and COMPLETELY USELESS "victim" "gary childress"?Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:56 am I never stood a chance of getting anywhere worthwhile, because there's nothing worthwhile to embrace in this world.
Who and/or what is this 'God Thing', EXACTLY, which 'you' speak OF and talk ABOUT here, "gary childress"?
By the way I suggest that 'you' BECOME, and then REMAIN, OPEN UNTIL 'you' FIND OUT what God IS, EXACTLY, BEFORE 'you' even BEGIN to JUDGE 'IT'.
Re: There is no cure for mental illness
SO, here we have 'it'. The MEANING OF 'life', itself, IS 'loneliness AND hopelessness'. Well according to just one human being known as "gary childress' here anyway.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 3:00 amLife is lonely and hopeless.attofishpi wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:52 am ps. Stop blaming God (IT causes you more mental stress - love the entity, give thanks for your existence and things will improve)
If absolutely ANY one TELLS 'you', or EXPECTS 'you', to be thankful for what 'you' have EXPERIENCED, and for 'the life' that 'you' ARE LIVING, then 'that one' has NOT YET LEARNED what the ACTUAL Truth IS, EXACTLY, HERE YET.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 3:00 am There's nothing for a lonely, hopeless person to love or be thankful for.
FEELING 'lonely' and/or 'hopeless' is NOT is 'one thing'. But 'you', "yourself", are NOT what IS just being FELT. 'you' ARE MORE than just A 'feeling' "gary childress".
'you' are NOT an, ACTUAL, 'lonely, hopeless person'. Although 'those feelings' are OBVIOUSLY being FELT, within.
Re: There is no cure for mental illness
Clinical depression is an imbalace of neurotransmitters, so don't blame gods. Whereas sadness (an entirely different entity), feels similar but has an experiencial cause. Though it is a normal response to such experiences and though unpleasant, is part of the recovery from the negative event, not unlike the physical pain associated with healing from a physical ailment.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:56 am There is no hope. This world is unbelievably cruel. I never stood a chance of getting anywhere worthwhile, because there's nothing worthwhile to embrace in this world. How can God be so heartless?
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Re: There is no cure for mental illness
Actually that industry created model was never particularly well supported and is pretty much debunked.LuckyR wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 8:05 amClinical depression is an imbalace of neurotransmitters, so don't blame gods.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:56 am There is no hope. This world is unbelievably cruel. I never stood a chance of getting anywhere worthwhile, because there's nothing worthwhile to embrace in this world. How can God be so heartless?
This I tend to agree with.Whereas sadness (an entirely different entity), feels similar but has an experiencial cause. Though it is a normal response to such experiences and though unpleasant, is part of the recovery from the negative event, not unlike the physical pain associated with healing from a physical ailment.
Re: There is no cure for mental illness
I apologize for sloppy wording, what I meant by "clinical depression" was not every case that meets the diagnostic criteria for the diagnosis. What I meant was cases of clinical depression unassociated with an external stressor ie. caused by an internal source. Professionals commonly feel the causes in such cases are (grossly) either genetic, implying an inherited biochemical imbalance or personality type, which may also have it's origins from a biochemical source.Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:57 pmActually that industry created model was never particularly well supported and is pretty much debunked.LuckyR wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 8:05 amClinical depression is an imbalace of neurotransmitters, so don't blame gods.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:56 am There is no hope. This world is unbelievably cruel. I never stood a chance of getting anywhere worthwhile, because there's nothing worthwhile to embrace in this world. How can God be so heartless?
True these mechanisms are not known at the granular level. And you're right that post hoc gross measurements of serotonin levels do not support a simplistic "high" vs "low" systemic level as being causative, though to be fair improvement in symptoms through SSRI use is well documented and the possibility of a key role of neurotransmitters in dysfunctional mood disorders, while not proven as you pointed out, certainly is consistent with the available metadata.
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Re: There is no cure for mental illness
All humans are "programmed" with the critical, necessary and critical basic 4Fs, certain instincts and emotions to facilitate basic survival.Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:56 am There is no hope. This world is unbelievably cruel. I never stood a chance of getting anywhere worthwhile, because there's nothing worthwhile to embrace in this world. How can God be so heartless?
Mental illness arise when there is something wrong or damage to them, such that they cannot operate normally.
For example, all humans are "programmed" with the 'oughtness to kill' for food and self-defence to ensure survival and preservation of the species. There is a also a 'program' to inhibit this 'oughtness to kill' so that humans do not direct this to kill other humans which in principle would defeat its original objective, i.e. preservation of the species.
The emotions including 'sadness' is a critical emotion for survival, else humans would not have adapted to it.
Like all other basic drives and emotions there are inhibitors and modulators to ensure they operate within optimal limits.
If there is something wrong or damage to the inhibitors and modulators, them 'mental' illness will manifest, e.g. if the inhibitors and modulators sadness are weakened or damage, then, we have depression.
It is critical to note, all mental illness come in degrees or within a spectrum.
If it is of the severest degrees, one would have been given the strongest medicine available or confined to a psychiatric ward.
Since you are able to post and discuss in a forum like here, your problem is not serious [supposedly with medicine].
Since your case is not serious and can access to the internet and other resources, you will be able to manage the situation by understanding the relevant facts, then accept them as naturally occurring and work around it.
To work around it, besides the necessary medicine, you will need to practice mindfulness meditation where if the issue [mental pain or suffering] whenever is triggered, then one can rationalize it away using the various techniques from mindfulness meditation.
It is not easy with mental issues in contrast to physical handicaps, but one has to try one's best.