Wonkers and Israel

[Walker]

LOL

Age, I invite you to take a gander at this.

IT’S TIME TO CRUSH GAZA
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/ ... h-gaza.php

“But there is something else going on, something beyond even Israel’s need to win the war or the entirely appropriate desire to exact revenge. The Palestinians, and Gazans in particular, have the sickest culture on Earth. Little productive work is done; Gaza exists largely as the beneficiary of international welfare. Instead of goods and services, the main product of Gaza is ideology–the perverted ideology of Jew-hatred.”

Comment: Crushing Gaza will not end a hatred that has burned through cultures for thousands of years at temperatures fashionable to the times of the cultures, but crushing does hold the possibility of making the hatred less fashionable in civil society where science tells us men are losing their aggression, but not all of it. Now that machines are doing more of the back-work, and now that girly-men are so popular, what aggression that does remain in men does not get channeled into work, not as much as the channeling done in the olden days when hatred was expressed up close and personal with swords that had pet names. For desk jockeys today, the aggression goes upstairs into the home office and sticks its nose where it doesn’t belong, causing trouble, which is a cross-cultural condition.

[Age]

Are you a silicone-based life-form?

WHO are 'you' DIRECTING this question here TO, exactly, "alexis jacobi"?

[Age]

LOL

Age, I invite you to take a gander at this.

Okay.

IT’S TIME TO CRUSH GAZA
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/ ... h-gaza.php

“But there is something else going on, something beyond even Israel’s need to win the war

1. There is NO 'winning' in wars.

2. Although there is NO 'winning' in wars, BOTH "sides" STILL BELIEVE that "their side" NEEDS to 'win the war'.

or the entirely appropriate desire to exact revenge.

There is NEVER EVER ANY 'appropriate' 'desire to exact revenge'.

If there are some who STILL 'having desires' 'to exact revenge', then 'those ones' ARE STILL LACKING IN UNDERSTANDING, and EMPATHY.

The Palestinians, and Gazans in particular, have the sickest culture on Earth.

ONCE MORE we are provided with MORE examples and PROOF of just how BLIND, DEAF, and CLOSED some people REALLY WERE, back then.

'These people' REALLY could NOT even SEE that whenever ANY one is on "one-side" of 'things', like 'this' here, then it is ALWAYS the OTHER culture, ON the "other-side" who have the so-called "sickest culture on the WHOLE of earth".

And, BECAUSE 'these people' could NOT even SEE this Fact 'they' were ALSO STILL ABSOLUTELY INCAPABLE of JUST UNDERSTANDING WHY 'this' HAPPENED and OCCURRED.

And, BECAUSE 'they' could NOT LEARN and UNDERSTAND WHY, 'they' ALSO could NOT LEARN and UNDERSTAND HOW TO DISCONTINUE 'their' OBVIOUSLY Truly ABSURD and INAPPROPRIATE MISBEHAVIOR here.

Little productive work is done; Gaza exists largely as the beneficiary of international welfare.

AND WHY would 'this' BE THE CASE here?

Could having one's land STOLEN and being FORCED to live in smaller and smaller 'pockets of land' AFFECT the way 'those OPPRESSED people' live and survive, to you?

Or, is it just THE CASE ALL of 'those people' were just born STUPID, and USELESS, to you?

Or, is the IMAGINED and PERCEIVED 'little productive work' just one's OWN view, perspective, or opinion, and NOT REALLY THE ACTUAL CASE of 'things', EXACTLY?

Or, is there some thing ELSE 'you' would like to ADD to WHY 'that perceived perspective' here exists, EXACTLY, "walker"?

Instead of goods and services, the main product of Gaza is ideology–the perverted ideology of Jew-hatred.”

Are 'goods and/or services' CREATED to FULFILL adult human beings LOVE-OF-MONEY, and thus to HELP SATISFY the GREED of 'them' REALLY absolutely ANY 'thing' to Truly even CONSIDER here?

If yes, then WHY do 'you' ENVISION such a HATRED of a 'particular group of human beings' CAME INTO Existence?

Do 'you' REALLY BELIEVE that 'that group' has NOT CONTRIBUTED IN ANY way, shape, NOR form TOWARDS the ACTUAL HATRED of 'them'?

Or, maybe 'you' BELIEVE that 'some groups of human beings' were BORN, NATURALLY, HATING, or to 'grow up' TO HATE,

Comment: Crushing Gaza will not end a hatred that has burned through cultures for thousands of years at temperatures fashionable to the times of the cultures, but crushing does hold the possibility of making the hatred less fashionable in civil society where science tells us men are losing their aggression, but not all of it.

Do 'you' YET KNOW WHY it is the "other-side" where 'the aggression', 'uncivility', and/or 'hatred' exists and lies?

Now that machines are doing more of the back-work,

Now, would a Truly 'civilized', 'non-aggressive', and 'loving' society CREATE 'machines', which could and would DO 'their KILLING' of human beings FOR 'them'?

In fact would a Truly loving and civilized society even IMAGINE CREATING ANY machine/weapon that could KILL human beings?

Just some 'thing' to think ABOUT and ponder OVER.

and now that girly-men are so popular, what aggression that does remain in men does not get channeled into work,

Does one even NEED 'aggression' to just DO WORK?

not as much as the channeling done in the olden days when hatred was expressed up close and personal with swords that had pet names. For desk jockeys today, the aggression goes upstairs into the home office and sticks its nose where it doesn’t belong, causing trouble, which is a cross-cultural condition.

Okay.

[Walker]

Does one even NEED 'aggression' to just DO WORK?

One needs energy for both back-work and aggression. Enough back-work takes the energy away from aggression, which is why Presidents should be farmers with dirty fingernails.

Sometimes ever-changing reality clarifies only to encounter the next veil, the one that mistakes the accurate pre-witnessing of action as cause of the actual events that inevitably unfold. Time will dilute the EXACT accuracy of predictions into the bones of principles because at some point incalculable human vagaries will intervene to blur specifics of predictability back into randomness.

Often an unknown element appears to disrupt the exactness the predictability, such as the sudden appearance of Obama who so radically changed the future into what is now in his third term of office at the time that this is written, in the tragedy and comedy of human existence, so obviously tectonic plate shifters such as Obama, who managed to even defy term-limits in arrogant distain of the rules, makes demands for EXACTNESS inapplicable when studying the taproot for principles prior to studying the leaves, which are clues too many to decipher in one short lifetime.

[Iwannaplato]

You do realize that nothing you said here addressed what you quoted from his post.

I think you missed the part in the quote where he talked about "anti-Israel" and "anti-Jewish" propaganda. My post directly addresses this issue. It might be difficult for you to understand because it requires one to think carefully about what was said. But this is a philosophy forum and it is expected that participants use their intellect and not have everything spoon-fed to them.

Everything in your post here could be correct and what he asserted could also be correct.

Is this what you think?

Here's what you quoted

Walker wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 5:48 pm
Hamas’ primary interest in the Gaza civilians is to use them for anti-Israel, anti-Jewish propaganda.

Nothing, not one thing dealt with Hamas' primary interest in Gaza civlians. Nothing. I just double checked, then wasted more of my time using the search function to see if I missed the part about Hamas.

If you were responding to parts of his post that you did not quote, then perhaps you don't understand the purpose of the quote function. Or you aren't interested in clarity.

And this

Did you know that the religious Orthodox Jews are themselves anti-Israel?

Then you quote one orthodox Jew who is an American Orthoxox Jew, the spokesperson for a minority fringe group.

So, right from the start of your post you start with an implicit lie (or you are not competent when it comes to generalizing and citing people, because it is a falsehood that the Orthodox Jew are anti-Israel. Some are, most are not.

If you are going to be condescending about intellect and spoon-fed, remember....
عَنْ يَزِيدَ بْنِ الأَصَمِّ قال أبو هريرة رضي الله عنه‏ يُبْص الْقَذَاةَ فِي عَيْنِ أَخِيهِ وَيَنْسَى الْجِذْلَ أَوِ الْجِذْعَ

سأكون مندهشًا إذا لم تصطدم بالجدران مع وجود ذلك الشيء هناك.

[Iwannaplato]

I find it to be very interesting that the Rabbi said that many non-religious Jews and Evangelical Christians support the criminal terrorist state of Israel. Having discussed with you before, I don't recall you as a non-religious Jew. However, you seem to be a supporter of the terrorist and pariah state of Israel, may I ask : are you an Evangelical Protestant Christian?

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You ended up quoting me rather than the author of the above, so they may have missed this.

[Age]

Does one even NEED 'aggression' to just DO WORK?

One needs energy for both back-work and aggression.

OBVIOUSLY.

BUT, in case you MISSED 'it' MY QUESTION was ASKING, 'Does one even NEED 'aggression' to just DO WORK?

Enough back-work takes the energy away from aggression, which is why Presidents should be farmers with dirty fingernails.

Okay if you SAY and BELIEVE so.

Sometimes ever-changing reality clarifies only to encounter the next veil, the one that mistakes the accurate pre-witnessing of action as cause of the actual events that inevitably unfold. Time will dilute the EXACT accuracy of predictions into the bones of principles because at some point incalculable human vagaries will intervene to blur specifics of predictability back into randomness.

Okay, AGAIN, if you SAY and BELIEVE SO.

Often an unknown element appears to disrupt the exactness the predictability, such as the sudden appearance of Obama who so radically changed the future into what is now in his third term of office at the time that this is written, in the tragedy and comedy of human existence, so obviously tectonic plate shifters such as Obama, who managed to even defy term-limits in arrogant distain of the rules, makes demands for EXACTNESS inapplicable when studying the taproot for principles prior to studying the leaves, which are clues too many to decipher in one short lifetime.

All I ASKED WAS; 'Does one even NEED 'aggression' to just DO WORK?', and LOOK WHERE just 'that' TOOK 'this person' here.

[Sculptor]

LOL

Age, I invite you to take a gander at this.

IT’S TIME TO CRUSH GAZA
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/ ... h-gaza.php

Palestinian kids face this everyday, and have done for decades

You do not have to rely on me, I got that from several IDF soldiers that have left Israel after being horrified at the abuses they were expected to inflict daily on Palestinians going about their daily lives.

[promethean75]

https://www.kaotic.com/video/5d73d284_20231015142026_t

For two points, explain why they paint the rockets black.

[promethean75]

That's correct. To prevent the rocket from reflecting sun light and revealing your position.

[promethean75]

If u get caught up in the 'who's land is it' argument, u can simply look at jewish people and immediately recognize their ethnicity is mixed with european ancestry; they look way more like whitey than they do arabs.

This has to mean they couldn't have been there first. Rather they ended up there, and then planted the propaganda that they were there first.

[Walker]

https://www.kaotic.com/video/5d73d284_20231015142026_t

For two points, explain why they paint the rockets black.

Because they have lots of time and nothing else to do but reproduce prodigiously, and a steady diet of anything can get boring, even that.

Tough for Gazaians to get a visa out of the region, probably tough for Gazaians to break into whatever job-controlling syndicates that exist inside or outside the pressure cooker, even if they had job skills. Terrorist doesn’t look good on the resume, no matter what sob-story excuse they offer to HR. Folks prefer to not have a terrorst in their country or on their payroll, and like Egypt can exercise that option until some authority they recognize pressures them enough to offer a drink of water and a patch of dirt to sleep.

Never-the-less, the Gazians, about the same age and perhaps temperament as those men pouring over the southern border of the USA, are responsible for what they do, including atrocities, no matter how unfair and tough the world is. This is the burden of all human caretakers, to be responsible for the actions of the body we didn't create.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

LOL

Age, I invite you to take a gander at this.

IT’S TIME TO CRUSH GAZA
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/ ... h-gaza.php

Palestinian kids face this everyday, and have done for decades

You do not have to rely on me, I got that from several IDF soldiers that have left Israel after being horrified at the abuses they were expected to inflict daily on Palestinians going about their daily lives.

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[Sculptor]

The day to day life of innocent people.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XCVxz6rIQ74

[vegetariantaxidermy]

The day to day life of innocent people.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XCVxz6rIQ74

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