Wonkers and Israel

[Walker]

The oppressed human beings are acting appropriately in regards to the oppressed human beings that they regard themselves to be. I would say that living under an iron dome, and having your citizens attacked by those who are brainwashed to hate you and kill the most defenseless among you, is a rather oppressive way to live, and eviction of the demonstrably dangerous death cult living next door is appropriate.

[Age]

The oppressed human beings are acting appropriately in regards to the oppressed human beings that they regard themselves to be. I would say that living under an iron dome, and having your citizens attacked by those who are brainwashed to hate you and kill the most defenseless among you, is a rather oppressive way to live, and eviction of the demonstrably dangerous death cult living next door is appropriate.

VERY True.

VERY SADLY though, EVERY one of 'you', adult human beings, in the days when this is being written, BELIEVES 'you' are 'the one' acting, or behaving, 'appropriately' here.

When it is in fact EVERY one of 'you', adult human beings, who IS ACTUALLY acting, and misbehaving, INAPPROPRIATELY here. But, as has ALREADY been PROVED True NONE or 'you' will OPENLY and Honestly ADMIT to this Fact.

Thus, WHY 'moving forward' was about at ZERO, in the days when this was being written.

[Impenitent]

I predict that Israel will be invaded from the north and east as well...

Lebanon, Syria, Gaza and Iran will be turned to ash...

China and Russia will escalate and comrade Biden will return fire

WW3 will be fought with ICBMs

-Imp

The pieces are in place.

Are you taking personal precautions for when everything changes as a result of that?

I'm not a "survivalist"

the meek shall inherit a nuclear wasteland

no thanks

-Imp

[Walker]

Everyone in South America has moved to North America so there should be some places to rent. South America is probably out of the blast zone, which has made Patagonia popular with those who can manage the payments.

[Walker]

VERY SADLY though, EVERY one of 'you', adult human beings, in the days when this is being written, BELIEVES 'you' are 'the one' acting, or behaving, 'appropriately' here.

Are you sure? The root of terrorism is inappropriateness, and it must be known to commit, to pack a debilitating punch.

[Walker]

Israeli Ambassador: Israel Is Creating ‘Safe Zones’ with Food, Medical Support for Gaza Civilians
https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2 ... civilians/

comment:
By doing this Israel is taking the cooperating, human shields away from Hamas. This could change the narrative. Israel could be found guilty in the court of Leftist Media for not properly protecting their prisoners from Hamas in the “so-called” safe zones where they will say the Gaza folks are in fact being interrogated and falsely charged with conspiracy to commit murder.

[Averroes]

Professor Norman Finkelstein just described the Israeli operation in Gaza as "somewhere between a crime against humanity and genicide under international law", and said Israel's goal appears to be "to ethnically cleanse the northern sector of Gaza and declare it Israeli's new security zone".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql9FfYTKt1Q

[Age]

VERY SADLY though, EVERY one of 'you', adult human beings, in the days when this is being written, BELIEVES 'you' are 'the one' acting, or behaving, 'appropriately' here.

Are you sure? The root of terrorism is inappropriateness, and it must be known to commit, to pack a debilitating punch.

Are you sure that 'to them' they believe that they are NOT behaving appropriately?

[Alexis Jacobi]

This recent event, these unfolding events, encompass within them a microcosm of so many of the issues and conflicts besetting the world. The pressure is on to define oneself — morally — in relation to each thorny social question.

[Walker]

VERY SADLY though, EVERY one of 'you', adult human beings, in the days when this is being written, BELIEVES 'you' are 'the one' acting, or behaving, 'appropriately' here.

Are you sure? The root of terrorism is inappropriateness, and it must be known to commit, to pack a debilitating punch.

Are you sure that 'to them' they believe that they are NOT behaving appropriately?

That is the meaning of the sentence you quoted but didn't compose.

[Walker]

Professor Norman Finkelstein just described the Israeli operation in Gaza as "somewhere between a crime against humanity and genicide under international law", and said Israel's goal appears to be "to ethnically cleanse the northern sector of Gaza and declare it Israeli's new security zone".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql9FfYTKt1Q

Terrorist cleansing is not ethnic cleansing.

Clearing Hamas out the tunnels and destroying the tunnels could compromise what remains of the structural integrity of the buildings on top of the tunnels, which would endanger the civilian surface dwellers, which is why they have to clear out. No one except Israel seems too concerned with getting them out, so Israel is protecting the civilians by setting up safe zones, so says the news.

Hamas’ primary interest in the Gaza civilians is to use them for anti-Israel, anti-Jewish propaganda. Using the civilians as human shields is one way to do this, which is why Hamas embedded themselves in the population, with offices in hospital basements, that sort of thing. The problem for Hamas is, if the civilians leave for their safety they can’t be human shields, which makes them less effective propaganda tools because in the news, if it bleeds it leads.

Applying logic to the murderous and ruthless terrorists that want to destroy Israel and the Jews, plan B for Hamas, in regards to the civilians, would be to wait until all the civilians are corralled into a Safe Zone, then kill the Gaza civilians in ways that would leave some body parts for the propagandists to photograph and distribute, and of course say that Israel did it.

This could be accomplished by the Hamas terrorists who are still embedded in the population, and who would be sent to safe zones along with the civilians … in the same way that terrorists embed themselves in the civilians who are illegally crossing the southern border of the US to enter the safe zone of America, safe being a relative and transitory condition.

[Walker]

You could maybe replace the tuning fork with a giant Nepalese singing bowl, but it would still need the bedrock.

With all due respects, Walker, all your recent posts have been ridiculous and it does not cast a favorable light on your arguments (such as they are).

Let’s ask this question: What will the actual result be in 3 months, in 6 months, after this *unprecedented* invasion of Gaza?

What if a wider conflict develops? (A regional conflict).

Here's a question for you, with all due respects.

Did you see the video of that Hamas Freedom Fighter who found one of his enemy on the ground with a wound, semi-conscious and bleeding out?

It's the video where the Freedom Fighter took a garden hoe, positioned himself a hoe's length from the wounded man's head, and then began chopping on his throat with hoe with long, powerful blows to chop the man's head off. The camera turned for a moment and you could see the face of Hamas, and it had a big smile. Looked kind of excited, his dreams were coming true. He may have even been giggling, then he went back to the chopping. The victim's hands involuntarily twitched with each chop to his throat.

Did you see that one, for perspective upon the situation?

[Alexis Jacobi]

Here's a question for you, with all due respects.

Did you see the video of that Hamas Freedom Fighter who found one of his enemy on the ground with a wound, semi-conscious and bleeding out?

It's the video where the Freedom Fighter took a garden hoe, positioned himself a hoe's length from the wounded man's head, and then began chopping on his throat with hoe with long, powerful blows to chop the man's head off. The camera turned for a moment and you could see the face of Hamas, and it had a big smile. Looked kind of excited, his dreams were coming true. He may have even been giggling, then he went back to the chopping. The victim's hands involuntarily twitched with each chop to his throat.

Did you see that one, for perspective upon the situation?

No, I did not see that one, and you really should include links.

What you are attempting here, in this odd game that you are playing, is for me to either attempt to justify it or to identify with your *horror*. I'll bet however that you do not have much experience with this conflict and though I could not say mine is extraordinary I have been aware of these sorts of atrocities for quite some time. Yet as has been said here there is a disproportionate Israeli violence against Palestinians. I would put it at 100-to-one. And I knew all this even when I had Zionist sympathies and defended Israel and Zionism.

If you are asking me to explain how people can veer toward that psychological state where atrocious acts become possible, that too I am familiar with. There is no place, no culture, no conflict, where those acts do not show up.

I would also point out to you that all of your recent posts, explaining and defending the retaliatory destruction that is happening now and will increase ten-fold and more soon enough, offer a glimpse into how it comes to be.

Oddly enough -- and who knows if this is even real or not? don't we all have to prepare ourselves for deep-fakes? -- here is an alternative anecdote. I am not really trying to connect this to your post or my response. It is just that it came up on YouTube.

[Walker]

I assume that our resident wonkers are celebrating the current (very public) torture and murder of Israelis in Israel. It's strange, because it's wonkers who keep telling us that uncontrolled immigration is good, yet when it was Jews emigrating to Israel this was apparently a bad thing, even though Jews are indigenous to Israel ('indigenous' being another word beloved by wonkerdom). Anyone else confused by these (apparent) conflicts?

No. Territory is the ostensible reason. Hatred is the primary, driving force that reconciles mental conflict that may inhibit atrocities.

Could our delightful resident wonkers please explain and make logical sense of these anomalies?

Apparently not, but not being fluent in Wonker may have caused me to miss the wonker rationale that makes logical sense of chopping off heads with glee, among other atrocities of agression against civilization and humanity, and my answer of indoctrinated, ingrained, irrational, illogal hatred that adds up to Evil may not satisfy a wonker.

[Walker]

No, I did not see that one, and you really should include links.

Vaaazz.
(the link) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPb45NFfI80

You really should open your eyes and mind to know the truth, as I educate you only as a courtesy to make the point, and because words that I use further remove us from the atrocity that a video would make more real.