here's why i'm the legitimate owner of the universe

[Age]

Because NO legitimate and rightful so-called 'owner' of parcels of earth would hand them over voluntarily to "another" who would 'sell' them for money nor to who would pass them on to those who would 'sell' them, for money.

That's nonsensical. Here, in S. Louisiana, the earliest inhabitants were nomads (about 20,000 years back). Between 6 and ten thousand years back the area was settled by the Tunican and Caddoan. About 2,000 years back, farming (and hence land ownership) began.

LOL and you call what I said and wrote 'nonsensical'.

So, WHERE, WHEN, and HOW, EXACTLY, did 'the earth', or parcels of 'the earth', so-call 'hence become owned land'?

It is like you are, laughingly, 'trying to' claim here that, BECAUSE about 2,000 years back farming began, then, HENCE, automatically and magically, 'land' became mystically, automatically, 'owned' by a few of 'you', human beings.

If you are 'trying to' claim that because of 'farming' itself and/or only because of 'farming', 'the end' suddenly became 'owned' by 'you', human beings, then you are CLEARING MISSING THE POINT here.

BUT, if 'this' is NOT what you are 'trying to' claim here, then 'what' are you 'trying to' claim here, exactly?

Also, what did you recap of 'the earliest inhabitants' 'being nomads' and/or some labeled group of human beings between six and ten thousands years back got to do with absolutely ANY thing regarding ACTUAL legitimate and rightful 'ownership' of earth or of parcels of the earth?

Now accordin' to you, one of the first peoples, who took possession of a tract and worked the soil, either wasn't a legit owner (makin' you commie scum), or, if he were a legit owner, would never, ever, sell his tract to one of his fellows. And that guy would never, ever, sell, in part or whole, his tract to another, and so on.

'you' STILL do NOT GET 'it' "henry quirk". NO person, EVER, has 'taken possession' of 'the earth', nor of ANY 'parcel of the earth', BECAUSE it is, literally, NOT a physically possible thing to do.

Now, OF COURSE, 'you', human beings, can USE 'the earth' for and in your OWN GREEDY and SELFISH ways. 'you' can also TAKE FROM 'the earth', but absolutely NONE of 'you' ACTUALLY REALLY 'own' ANY 'parcel of' 'the earth', let alone 'the earth', itself.

Although this was, OBVIOUSLY, contrary to, (popular?), BELIEF, BACK in the days when this was being written.

That's silly...and stupid.

Well considering that ONLY 'you' "henry quirk" thought this up, and presented 'this view', of 'yours', here, publicly, then if you also want to say and claim that 'your view' here is silly AND stupid, then 'you' will get NO disagreement at all from me.

Earth, nor parts of 'it', like the Universe, and parts of 'It', can not be justly 'owned' by (persons).

So: I don't own my house, my land, my car, my clothes, my books, my garden, my shotgun, or, apparently, myself.

The word 'myself' is an oxy-moron and logically self-contradictory.

As for the rest, that is a resounding, 'Yes'. Although 'you', obviously, BELIEVE otherwise.

Commie scum it is.

What does the word 'commie' even mean, and/or refer to, exactly, to you "henry quirk"?

[henry quirk]

What does the word 'commie' even mean(?)

Free helicopter ride.

[Iwannaplato]

What does the word 'commie' even mean(?)

Free helicopter ride.

Which also means sour grapes fascism.

[henry quirk]

What does the word 'commie' even mean(?)

Free helicopter ride.

Which also means sour grapes fascism.

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[Iwannaplato]

Free helicopter ride.

Which also means sour grapes fascism.

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Henry, Henry...we disagree about some things, but I didn't see you as someone who would think leftist college students, for example, should be thrown out of helicopters into the Pacific. Freedom of thought and speech and all that. I got that you were joking. I just saw the free helicoptor ride could be taken two ways: as a consequence and as a symbol. I described what it symbolized.

[henry quirk]

I got that you were joking.

If you say so.

[Iwannaplato]

I got that you were joking.

If you say so.

I do. Pinochet wasn't a libertarian.

[henry quirk]

Pinochet wasn't a libertarian.

Irrelevant to the joke.

[Iwannaplato]

Pinochet wasn't a libertarian.

Irrelevant to the joke.

Sigh. Nope, not to that. To how you took my response.

Though I appreciate the disrespect these tangents show to this silly thread (OP).

[Age]

What does the word 'commie' even mean(?)

Free helicopter ride.

Once again we have another one who free makes claims, but very quickly runs away and 'ties to' hide when it comes to backing up, supporting, and/or explaining what they are actually talking about and meaning.

[Age]

What does the word 'commie' even mean(?)

Free helicopter ride.

Seems, 'PROVING that "Henry quirk" is only 'possessing', what is NOT legitimately owned by 'it', is about one of the most simplest and easiest 'things' to do here', happened even quicker, simpler, and easier than I was even expecting.

But we, obviously, still await to see if absolutely ANY one can show and prove that "henry quirk'" 'legitimately owns' a part of planet earth, and when for how long exactly some proposed 'legitimate ownership' began and lasts for

[henry quirk]

Sigh. Nope, not to that. To how you took my response.

I guess all this back & forth is over my head cuz I have no clue what your point is.

Though I appreciate the disrespect these tangents show to this silly thread (OP).

Ah, the silver lining.

[henry quirk]

Once again we have another one who free(ly) makes claims

What are my claims? Can you state them? Can you even quote them?

but very quickly runs away and 'ties to' hide when it comes to backing up, supporting, and/or explaining what they are actually talking about and meaning.

Oh, I'm right here, buddy.

And I won't offer back up, support, or explanations, not yet.

Why?

Here's why...

Seems, 'PROVING that "Henry quirk" is only 'possessing', what is NOT legitimately owned by 'it', is about one of the most simplest and easiest 'things' to do here', happened even quicker, simpler, and easier than I was even expecting.

You haven't PROVED I only possess and do not own. Do that first.

But we, obviously, still await to see if absolutely ANY one can show and prove that "henry quirk'" 'legitimately owns' a part of planet earth, and when for how long exactly some proposed 'legitimate ownership' began and lasts for

I'm afraid no one else gives a shit. It just you and me, Abbot & Costello, together again.

[Age]

Once again we have another one who free(ly) makes claims

What are my claims?

That you 'legitimately' OWN that tiny little parcel of 'the earth', itself, which you call and claim is 'yours'.

Can you state them?

Yes, as above.

Can you even quote them?

Yes, as below.

When you said and wrote, 'I paid the asking price for my little plot.', is ANOTHER one of 'your claims'.

Now, and by the way, when you said and wrote 'that' where you meaning, and claiming, that you were the 'legitimate owner' of said 'little plot', or were you meaning, and claiming, to be NOT the 'legitimate owner' of said 'plot'?

but very quickly runs away and 'ties to' hide when it comes to backing up, supporting, and/or explaining what they are actually talking about and meaning.

Oh, I'm right here, buddy.

Maybe so, for 'now'.

And I won't offer back up, support, or explanations, not yet.

Why?

Here's why...

Seems, 'PROVING that "Henry quirk" is only 'possessing', what is NOT legitimately owned by 'it', is about one of the most simplest and easiest 'things' to do here', happened even quicker, simpler, and easier than I was even expecting.

You haven't PROVED I only possess and do not own. Do that first.

Done so by your own inability to show how you, supposedly, 'own' a part of 'the earth' itself.

And, just handing over numbers, either on coins, bits of paper/plastic, or through a computer network to "another" human being does NOT mean that ANY one of 'you', human beings, actual 'own' 'the earth' nor any 'parts of the earth'.

One can NOT also make claim to actually 'owning' any parts of the earth through any form of 'agreement' FROM "another" human being.

Any such claim is just ANOTHER example of how 'you', human beings, actually TRICK and FOOL "yourselves" INTO BELIEVING some things.

But we, obviously, still await to see if absolutely ANY one can show and prove that "henry quirk'" 'legitimately owns' a part of planet earth, and when for how long exactly some proposed 'legitimate ownership' began and lasts for

I'm afraid no one else gives a shit. It just you and me, Abbot & Costello, together again.

And, ONCE AGAIN, you have provided absolutely NOTHING AT ALL to back up and support 'your claim' here.

I have ALREADY COUNTERED the very LITTLE that you said and wrote here regarding 'this', and because you NEVER responded to what I COUNTERED, then this leaves you at the current moment with, once more, absolutely NOTHING AT ALL.

Also, maybe the reason why, supposedly, NO one "else" gives a so-called "shit" is because NO one "else" is so ADAMANT that they OWN a part of planet earth, itself.

[henry quirk]

That you 'legitimately' OWN that tiny little parcel of 'the earth', itself, which you call and claim is 'yours'.

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Now, and by the way, when you said and wrote 'that' where you meaning, and claiming, that you were the 'legitimate owner' of said 'little plot', or were you meaning, and claiming, to be NOT the 'legitimate owner' of said 'plot'?

Morally and legally: I own my little plot of land.

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Maybe so, for 'now'.

Oh, I think I'll long-haul it with you.

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Done so by your own inability to show how you, supposedly, 'own' a part of 'the earth' itself.

Nope. I can tell you exactly why it is I am the morally rightful owner of my plot (and all my other stuff), and I will after you give me sumthin' more substantial than...

To PROVE, irrefutably, that NO 'thing' can 'legitimately', that is; JUSTIFY, 'owning' earth, nor parts of earth, is to show and present the actual Fact that there is not ONE human being who has been able to JUSTIFY the claim that 'one, or more, of them' ACTUALLY 'owns' said land.

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One can NOT also make claim to actually 'owning' any parts of the earth through any form of 'agreement' FROM "another" human being.

Not exactly true, no. To transact (legally, and -- more importantly -- morally) requires agreement.

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And, ONCE AGAIN, you have provided absolutely NOTHING AT ALL to back up and support 'your claim' here.

My support is the utter lack of participation by anyone else. No one else is posting. It's just you and me.

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Also, maybe the reason why, supposedly, NO one "else" gives a so-called "shit" is because NO one "else" is so ADAMANT that they OWN a part of planet earth, itself.

Mebbe. More likely, though, they see this conversation as the goof-fest it is. Every one likes to go to the freak show but no one wants to be part of it.