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Sculptor wrote: Mon Sep 25, 2023 11:17 pm America is sleepwalking into a fascist state.

And it is GOP that hate democracy.
I just looked up the thing on Wiki. Is that a serious plan? It can't be? Even Walker can't possibly be that much of an idiot to tag onto a group like that. I have more faith in Walker than that.
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https://www.project2025.org/about/about-project-2025/

Oh, well, Biden it is. Good job Heritage Foundation, you forced me to chose the least worse person for president once again. Oh well. If Walker wants that, then he gets flunked out of my philosophy department. I had hopes for him. But I'll see what happens.
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Gary Childress wrote: Mon Sep 25, 2023 11:19 pm
Sculptor wrote: Mon Sep 25, 2023 11:16 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Mon Sep 25, 2023 5:50 pm Let me reword it differently just in case. Biden needs to get out of office (in my opinion). I just don't know who I should vote for as a replacement.
It's incoherent either way you say it.
You are obviously suckling on the tit of Fox news ATM.
THe real problem is staring you in the face,

PROJECT 2025.

Is the end of the American Republic.

THe world is watching in horror.
OK. If you want Biden to remain, then just say it. Otherwise, I have no idea what that means.
ATM Biden is the only thing that stands between American Democracy and Fascism.
As an American you ought to know what that means.
If you do not, then see what people are saying about it, and America sleepwalking in to a Fascist state.

You might start here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025, this will give a mild flavour of the possiblities. But once Trump has this power there would be no checks and balances in the system to mitigate the disaster.

There are a lot of people whose names are not obvous who have designed this, and they would have Trump as their puppet in the Whitehouse.
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Gary Childress wrote: Mon Sep 25, 2023 11:41 pm https://www.project2025.org/about/about-project-2025/

Oh, well, Biden it is. Good job Heritage Foundation, you forced me to chose the least worse person for president once again. Oh well. If Walker wants that, then he gets flunked out of my philosophy department. I had hopes for him. But I'll see what happens.
Walker is not bright enough to know the full consequence of what he is wishing for.
Project 2025 is a new swamp.
For what it is worth I think the Democrats have made a big mistake not to replace Biden. But they feel it is too late and feel more secure with the same old same old rather than chance a new face who might not be capable of standing against Trump.
I think they are wrong, and that keeping Biden on is a big risk, though his frailties are exaggerated. He's always had a stammer, and whilst this makes him look senile, it is not any indication of lack of cognitive ability.
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Sculptor wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:00 am
Gary Childress wrote: Mon Sep 25, 2023 11:41 pm https://www.project2025.org/about/about-project-2025/

Oh, well, Biden it is. Good job Heritage Foundation, you forced me to chose the least worse person for president once again. Oh well. If Walker wants that, then he gets flunked out of my philosophy department. I had hopes for him. But I'll see what happens.
Walker is not bright enough to know the full consequence of what he is wishing for.
You're too smart to believe the crap you write which makes you one nasty, hard-core cynic.

Never heard of what you're talking about, haven't checked the links. Attention is elsewhere. I might check it out but coming from you two I'm in no rush. The clock is ticking. At this point I have one clue, and that’s the date. 2025 will be the next administration.

The next administration will be heaped with the blame for the results of these maniacs, or the Climate Change Propaganda and Trump Propaganda will take the blame for what the hateful destroyers hath wrought, and the rot they are now wroughting. The minions will broadcast this blame, and it will be believed. By then it will be illegal to believe differently, if the Left has their way.

The Left has already made it illegal to challenge an election they have won on the count, although it has been a common practice for the Democrats to challege elections they lose.

That's how The Left rolls. Crude but effectively establishing a Uniparty.
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Here is a brilliant observation of a cause and effect that is happening right now, in the USofA.

For the Democrat Party, foreign countries are not the enemy. The opposition party is the enemy. It must be kept on a leash, or caged.

Think of a turtle on a leash.

“Modern authoritarianism has succeeded, where previous totalitarian systems failed, due to refined and nuanced strategies of repression, the exploitation of open societies, and the spread of illiberal policies in democratic countries themselves. The leaders of today’s authoritarian systems devote full-time attention to the challenge of crippling the opposition without annihilating it, and flouting the rule of law while mainting a plausible veneer of order, legitimacy, and prosperity.”
- Levin quoting another in his book, The Democrat Party Hates America.


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This is why totalitarian governments often have their mock elections.
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Walker wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:26 am
Sculptor wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:00 am
Gary Childress wrote: Mon Sep 25, 2023 11:41 pm https://www.project2025.org/about/about-project-2025/

Oh, well, Biden it is. Good job Heritage Foundation, you forced me to chose the least worse person for president once again. Oh well. If Walker wants that, then he gets flunked out of my philosophy department. I had hopes for him. But I'll see what happens.
Walker is not bright enough to know the full consequence of what he is wishing for.
You're too smart to believe the crap you write which makes you one nasty, hard-core cynic.

Never heard of what you're talking about, haven't checked the links.
Then do so with some haste.
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Walker wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 10:49 am Here is a brilliant observation of a cause and effect that is happening right now, in the USofA.
Your attention is in the wrong place.
1) Trump is in fact a criminal.
2) Frail as he is, Biden is the only thing that stands between tryrany and the government.
3) There are plans for tyrany, and it is not coming from the Democrats.
4) Project 2025 is that Plan.
5) And Trump is its puppet.

You have been warned.

Wake the fuck up
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Gary Childress wrote: Mon Sep 25, 2023 11:16 pm
commonsense wrote: Mon Sep 25, 2023 9:33 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Mon Sep 25, 2023 6:37 pm

What is your suggestion?
Let me tell you how a war to end one war would work in theory. Let’s say the squirrels have instigated a war against the field mice. Now send the grizzly bears to annihilate the squirrels.
Is that like when Bush invaded Panama in 1989 and then when Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990 Bush came to the heroic rescue of Kuwait, which started the whole US/Iraq feud? Tell me more!
No. Not similar. No.
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Sculptor wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 12:45 pm 1) Trump is in fact a criminal.
2) Frail as he is, Biden is the only thing that stands between tryrany and the government.
3) There are plans for tyrany, and it is not coming from the Democrats.
4) Project 2025 is that Plan.
5) And Trump is its puppet.
1) But technically, though at different levels, so have been a number (if not all) recent presidents. The facts seem to indicate: substantial corruption at the center of the Washington power-complex. It is not a partisan issue.

2) Possibly a biased, inaccurate statement. That is if one considers the enormity of corruption and collusion. The “minor figures” are not the problem, the problem seems enormous and systemic. But how can this be described fairly?

3) This has been going on, with force, since 9/11. The rise of a Police State in a global context of so-called 4th and 5th generation warfare. But in no sense is it partisan (either Democrat or Republican). It is meta-factional, meta to any political party. How could it be otherwise?

4) Have you read it in entirety? (I haven’t).

5) But here we need to be honest and clear-seeing: we are all being played (technically). We are the objects of manipulation and we are all (again technically) observational participants in the Puppet Show. According to some all recent presidents have been “puppets”, right?

The real question is What is the Power-System? Can it be seem? or merely approximated?

The nature of this sort of power would best function if it could never be clearly seen. Who sees? Who fairly describes?
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Alexis Jacobi wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 3:32 pm
Sculptor wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 12:45 pm 1) Trump is in fact a criminal.
2) Frail as he is, Biden is the only thing that stands between tryrany and the government.
3) There are plans for tyrany, and it is not coming from the Democrats.
4) Project 2025 is that Plan.
5) And Trump is its puppet.
1) But technically, though at different levels, so have been a number (if not all) recent presidents. The facts seem to indicate: substantial corruption at the center of the Washington power-complex. It is not a partisan issue.
No that is not the case. Please cite.
I have no doubt that there may be corrupt practies but Trump is a fucking gangster. Your whataboutery is all very well, but There has to be limits. Trump has been very clever at pretending they are all crooks, but despite saying he will drain the swapm, and despite filling up the courts with MAGA friendly judges he has not brought any one to justice.
As for Trump, he has gone further in his criminality than anyone since Nixon.

2) Possibly a biased, inaccurate statement. That is if one considers the enormity of corruption and collusion. The “minor figures” are not the problem, the problem seems enormous and systemic. But how can this be described fairly?
WTF are you talking about?

3) This has been going on, with force, since 9/11. The rise of a Police State in a global context of so-called 4th and 5th generation warfare. But in no sense is it partisan (either Democrat or Republican). It is meta-factional, meta to any political party. How could it be otherwise?
You might want to hold off on the conspiracy theories for a moment and read Project 2025. Because as bad as it is, not one imagined just how bad the poilce state could be.

4) Have you read it in entirety? (I haven’t).
DUh. TIme to get your reading specs out.

5) But here we need to be honest and clear-seeing: we are all being played (technically). We are the objects of manipulation and we are all (again technically) observational participants in the Puppet Show. According to some all recent presidents have been “puppets”, right?
I'm sure Germans in 1936 when facing Nazism used to say, oh well Ghengis Khan was a great leader - and it only the Jews ... right?

The real question is What is the Power-System? Can it be seem? or merely approximated?

The nature of this sort of power would best function if it could never be clearly seen. Who sees? Who fairly describes?
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commonsense wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 1:40 pm
Gary Childress wrote: Mon Sep 25, 2023 11:16 pm
commonsense wrote: Mon Sep 25, 2023 9:33 pm

Let me tell you how a war to end one war would work in theory. Let’s say the squirrels have instigated a war against the field mice. Now send the grizzly bears to annihilate the squirrels.
Is that like when Bush invaded Panama in 1989 and then when Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990 Bush came to the heroic rescue of Kuwait, which started the whole US/Iraq feud? Tell me more!
No. Not similar. No.
OK. I wasn't sure what you meant. In any case, I just try not to fuck up the world any more than I already do. It gets harder and harder to stomach all the damage I do now as it is. There's got to be a better world, out there somewhere, right? Or am I wrong about that? Wait??? This IS the world! I forgot! Silly me. :(
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Is it possible to artificially create meat that we can be 99% sure has no awareness or sentience?
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And is there a way to get irresponsible people to have fewer babies?
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Is there a way to enlighten those who are irresponsible?
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