Men

[vegetariantaxidermy]

This is what happens in NZ when women try to speak. Video of the event is hard to find because for 'some reason' there was a complete media blockout of it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3s4Ezk ... tBirdyRose

[Walker]

Some folks say that men who attack women, attack women out of choice, because they choose to attack women.

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For women who do not know this truth, or who cannot know of this truth, The truth is, men who do not attack women, are not holding back from attacking women.

There is no choice about attacking, or not attacking, when there is no desire to attack.

Men who do not attack women, will not attack women under the same conditions that men who do attack women, will attack women, and this not because men who have no choice about not attacking women are choosing to hold back from attacking women.

[Walker]

This is what happens in NZ when women try to speak. Video of the event is hard to find because for 'some reason' there was a complete media blockout of it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3s4Ezk ... tBirdyRose

I watched it. Why are NZ men like that?

[Dontaskme]

Here's a man saying things that are far more 'radical' than anything I've heard women say, but will he be abused for it? I doubt it somehow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPMOjev ... forthemind

''Men are profoundly inferior to women and profoundly aggressive, and that's biologically wired into their brain''. The words of a man, not a woman.

What could be more misogynistic than making it law that men can be women, thus rendering the word 'woman' obsolete and meaningless? Not only that, but making it a 'hate crime' for women to not pander to and validate them, forcing us to deny basic scientific facts and our very existence?

Ok ok, I get why you would be pissed off at misogynistic men.

But all I have been speaking about in response to this, is so what? as far as I can work out, the world is the way it is because we like it that way. So what if men are going to hate women, and that they are a danger to women's security and that they are hell bent on undermining their confidence and personal dignity to be a proper natural woman. But to me, I cannot help but stay nuetral on this issue, why, because what can I personally do about the way the human mind works, the way humanity conducts itself? All I can do is understand that life for most if not all human beings throughout history and present day does seem to be nothing more than an absolute shit show from cradle to grave, it's none stop hostility, suffering and emotional pain and chaos. I really have come to the conclusion there is no cure for anything in this world born of human thought. All I can do is stay out of the way, and try to just focus and manage myself by myself, and not be tempted to rise to the hatred that is bestowed upon me by others, or give away my own power by thinking of myself as a potential target or victim for men or women to unleash their hatred at.
As far as I feel about it, I cannot possibly imagine what it must feel like to be a man in this world, especially one who is seen as a danger to people just for being a man.

One of the comments made in response to that video...reads... ''The most dangerous thing for women and children in a home is a man''

How awful it must be to be born a human male then, when you read comments like that. I have 3 sons, and now I feel so much sadness and regret for having given birth to them, knowing I have contributed more males to come and be on earth.

That's all I can say, really, I mean, I could even go on to say, this life is like some kind of hell. And that's why I think religion was born in a bid to find some actual genuine peace, clarity, sanity, meaning, purpose and refuge from the evil that is humanity, maybe, IDK, and to be fair, I don't actually care anymore, because it is what it is...and my solution would be for people to say enough is enough, and have the good sense to turn to antinatalism and having the courage to put ourselves out of our own self-inflicted misery.

But then that's just my personal humble opinion...I feel sad for anyone unfortunate to be born into this human shit show today. But people still want babies, so the madness continues, why, because it's so obvious by now that we simply do not want it to come to an end...afterall, there's power and dominion to be sought after, and it seems to matter not who gets trampled on to gain possession of this power....bla bla bla...

The weird thing is, as a woman myself, I have never actually thought about myself as a woman, I don't feel like I'm anything at all, neither a woman or a man, I know I have female body parts, but my role in life is just to be a human being, even though I've had to take on both roles in my life, I've had to play the part of both a mother and a father to my kids, and so I honestly believe that there is a little bit of both sexes in each human being anyway. And if only we could see that we are all just human beings trying to survive here on earth, then maybe we could just be more tolerant of each other as we strive to live in a world we never really asked to be born into.

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[vegetariantaxidermy]

That's kind of the point. Sex is a biological fact. It doesn't 'feel' like anything.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Some folks say that men who attack women, attack women out of choice, because they choose to attack women.

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For women who do not know this truth, or who cannot know of this truth, The truth is, men who do not attack women, are not holding back from attacking women.

There is no choice about attacking, or not attacking, when there is no desire to attack.

Men who do not attack women, will not attack women under the same conditions that men who do attack women, will attack women, and this not because men who have no choice about not attacking women are choosing to hold back from attacking women.

That's what thuggish males do when they know they can get away with it. Of course all men don't just go around attacking women. Not all men are thugs. Do you have male friends? How do they talk about women when there are no women around?
I like to walk. A lot. I see a lot. Walking is more a 'woman's thing'. Men tend to avoid it. What I see are large, thuggish men cycling on the footpaths (narrow and not designed for cycling). It's never women doing this. You don't hear them coming up behind you and only realise they are there as they go whizzing past. Now the roads around here are not that busy or dangerous, so why do these men insist on tearing along the footpaths putting mostly women in danger? Hmm? Why would they want to do that? Why is it never women doing this? There are plenty of female cyclists around here, doing what they are supposed to do and riding on the road.
It's a form of bullying and intimidation. Plain and simple. Same with the men who walk their large dogs off the leash. I'm sure there's a much smaller penalty for your dog attacking a woman than doing it yourself.
Another favourite pastime of misogynists who want to show their contempt is to hoik loudly and spit just as a woman is walking past. No smiling or 'hat tipping' here, unless it's a really old guy. There are many ways to intimidate women with little or no risk to yourself.

Posie Parker is coming back here on Wednesday for the court case of the man who assaulted her. She might not even survive this time. The fact that I'm even considering that possibility must say something surely.
Yep. I live in a very civilised country

[Dontaskme]

Imagine being confronted with that after being raped. A huge, over six foot, woman-hating 'woman'...

Terrrifying, I'm actually genuinely sickened and frightened to be alive anymore. I know I contradict myself when I say I do not care, or that I am fine and accept things for what they are, but to be honest, I'm deluding myself, I actually feel sick to the stomach Veggie. I'm only enduring life right now because I have no other choice but to endure it. So yes, you are right this does affect me pychologically and emotionally, even though I pretended I wasn't affected. All I'm trying to point out is that there is nothing any of us can do about the state of the world is there? and that's even more terrifying, it's all becoming so hopeless. No wonder mental health has reached epidemic preportions for people of both sexes.

[Dontaskme]

That's kind of the point. Sex is a biological fact. It doesn't 'feel' like anything.

All I know is that it feels bad to be alive right now. To be human is a scary feeling. This thread is reminding me how terrible it is to be a human being.

I feel really sad and scared to be honest. I think dead people are the luckiest. Then I read about what nonduality is talking about, and feel even more depressed and scared.

Maybe why people want a loving God IDK, it's all just so unknowable and mysterious.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

You are a bag of contradictions. Make up your mind

And I don't mean bag as in the misogynistic insult to any woman over 40...

[Dontaskme]

Oooh, the spiritual earth-goddess is getting out her kitty cat claws...

I'm not spiritual Veggie, I don't believe in all that earth goddess crap, niether do I believe in a loving God, or Jesus.

I have no idea what's going on here, or why we are alive, and why we have to be born just to die anyway, it's all so pointless and meaningless to me. I also just talk crap most of the time, words just pour out of my mouth like an arrow, I don't even know why I say half the things I say tbh veggie, but I am starting to think you are right about the things you are discussing here, and I'm sorry for sounding like I was judging you and being condecending to you. I'm so sorry Veggie. Truely I am.

[Dontaskme]

You are a bag of contradictions. Make up your mind

Yes I am, I agree with you, I am contradictory. I'm always in two minds and can't make up my mind whether I like people or not, all I know is that people cannot help who they are, and that how they are is not their fault, and that is the really scary part about being human tbh.
People have said I could be mentally impaired and challenged in that they say I may have aspergers, autistism and biopolar tendencies, and maybe they are right, IDK..I really don't know what or who I am, except the person I was born like, and the person that never asked to be here in the first place.

[vegetariantaxidermy]

Oooh, the spiritual earth-goddess is getting out her kitty cat claws...

I'm not spiritual Veggie, I don't believe in all that earth goddess crap, niether do I believe in a loving God, or Jesus.

I have no idea what's going on here, or why we are alive, and why we have to be born just to die anyway, it's all so pointless and meaningless to me. I also just talk crap most of the time, words just pour out of my mouth like an arrow, I don't even know why I say half the things I say tbh veggie, but I am starting to think you are right about the things you are discussing here, and I'm sorry for sounding like I was judging you and being condecending to you. I'm so sorry Veggie. Truely I am.

Hmm. Why do I feel as if I'm walking into a trap

Sorry if I misjudged you. I suppose when I give up caring about these things then I've given up on life. I wouldn't be satisfied with online scrabble and candy crush.

[Dontaskme]

Oooh, the spiritual earth-goddess is getting out her kitty cat claws...

I'm not spiritual Veggie, I don't believe in all that earth goddess crap, niether do I believe in a loving God, or Jesus.

I have no idea what's going on here, or why we are alive, and why we have to be born just to die anyway, it's all so pointless and meaningless to me. I also just talk crap most of the time, words just pour out of my mouth like an arrow, I don't even know why I say half the things I say tbh veggie, but I am starting to think you are right about the things you are discussing here, and I'm sorry for sounding like I was judging you and being condecending to you. I'm so sorry Veggie. Truely I am.

Hmm. Why do I feel as if I'm walking into a trap

Sorry if I misjudged you. I suppose when I give up caring about these things then I've given up on life. I wouldn't be satisfied with online scrabble and candy crush.

It's not a trap. It's me that is mentally impaired veggie, you are sound, and have every right to speak your mind about the men situation.

I've given up on life veggie, I'm done. That's why I openly spew the crap I do on a public forum, I have nothing left to lose, but act like a complete fruitloop basket case.

I also understand that if I confess my true feelings about how I do not like being alive to a doctor, I will be thrown in a mental hospital for my own safety, and kept alive ironically. If I ask to be humanely euthanized so that my life could be terminated for good, I'd probably be REFUSED that option as well. The only way out is to be violent to my own body myself which is also terrifying, it's all so hopeless.

[Lacewing]

I've given up on life veggie, I'm done. That's why I openly spew the crap I do on a public forum, I have nothing left to lose, but act like a complete fruitloop basket case.

It sounds like you and Gary have similar perspectives?

This environment seems a bit harsh for people who are feeling thrashed. I wonder if you both use this forum to beat up more on yourselves?

[vegetariantaxidermy]

I'm not spiritual Veggie, I don't believe in all that earth goddess crap, niether do I believe in a loving God, or Jesus.

I have no idea what's going on here, or why we are alive, and why we have to be born just to die anyway, it's all so pointless and meaningless to me. I also just talk crap most of the time, words just pour out of my mouth like an arrow, I don't even know why I say half the things I say tbh veggie, but I am starting to think you are right about the things you are discussing here, and I'm sorry for sounding like I was judging you and being condecending to you. I'm so sorry Veggie. Truely I am.

Hmm. Why do I feel as if I'm walking into a trap

Sorry if I misjudged you. I suppose when I give up caring about these things then I've given up on life. I wouldn't be satisfied with online scrabble and candy crush.

It's not a trap. It's me that is mentally impaired veggie, you are sound, and have every right to speak your mind about the men situation.

I've given up on life veggie, I'm done. That's why I openly spew the crap I do on a public forum, I have nothing left to lose, but act like a complete fruitloop basket case.

I also understand that if I confess my true feelings about how I do not like being alive to a doctor, I will be thrown in a mental hospital for my own safety, and kept alive ironically. If I ask to be humanely euthanized so that my life could be terminated for good, I'd probably be REFUSED that option as well. The only way out is to be violent to my own body myself which is also terrifying, it's all so hopeless.

I never would have thought you were depressed. I thought you were just eccentric. I wish people wouldn't talk about suicide on here because when they disappear for a while I worry about it. Haven't you felt relief when Gary shows up again after one of his suicidal posts? I do.