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Dontaskme wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 9:45 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 9:41 am
The more you look into this 'ideology' the more you realise just how much men really do hate women. Deny it all you like. Germaine Greer said it decades ago and no one listened.
Have men always hated women...
Or was there a time in history where they did not hate women?
Judging by history then they always have. No idea why. Which is probably why women-only spaces came about in the first place. You don't as a rule rape, bash and murder people you like.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 9:54 am
Judging by history then they always have. No idea why. Which is probably why women-only spaces came about in the first place. You don't as a rule rape, bash and murder people you like.
Odd that there seems to be no idea why men hate women so much that they want to rape, bash, and murder them.

Women obviously must trigger the male to be hostile to a woman....do you think that is possible, or would you say, it's all just down to the make-up of male brain chemistry?

And it's also odd that nature would have programmed human brains to be this hostile toward their own species. But I guess that's what nature has done..right?
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Dontaskme wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 10:50 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 9:54 am
Judging by history then they always have. No idea why. Which is probably why women-only spaces came about in the first place. You don't as a rule rape, bash and murder people you like.
Odd that there seems to be no idea why men hate women so much that they want to rape, bash, and murder them.

Women obviously must trigger the male to be hostile to a woman....do you think that is possible, or would you say, it's all just down to the make-up of male brain chemistry?

And it's also odd that nature would have programmed human brains to be this hostile toward their own species. But I guess that's what nature has done..right?
Ask some men why they women. Why ask me?
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 11:03 am
Ask some men why they women. Why ask me?
Ok, so you've already said you have no idea why, so all that can be said is to leave it at that, shit happens and I've no idea why.

All that will happen is the ranting about how much it makes you sick and tired, and to want to endlessly complain about their behaviour, without ever knowing the reason why men are the way they are against women.
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Interesting that you immediatly blame women and say they must be doing something to make men hostile. Yes they are. By being women.
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Actually I can take a pretty good stab at the many and varied reasons why men hate women but I just can't be bothered engaging with her and it's certainly not the job of women to fix it.
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Dontaskme wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 10:50 am Odd that there seems to be no idea why men hate women so much that they want to rape, bash, and murder them. Women obviously must trigger the male to be hostile to a woman...
Well, why did men create a patriarchal society that serves and glorifies themselves... and cast a god in their own image? Historical Goddess worship at least makes more sense because females birth life. What does a BIG DADDY have to do with anything? Authority... which is forced upon us. Dumb brute force.

Not all men are like this. I think attitudes are evolving.

As for what might be disconcerting to some men: women seem to find it easier to love, and feel joy, and be free, and be guided by intuition.

Men might be more inclined to be slaves to their egos. That can't be fun. And they might find it hard to be 'satisfied' with life, because there's always another person or thing to be conquered.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 12:50 pm Actually I can take a pretty good stab at the many and varied reasons why men hate women but I just can't be bothered engaging with her and it's certainly not the job of women to fix it.
Perhaps it's not the job of anyone to fix someone elses broken?

If haters are going to hate, then there's absolutely nothing anyone else can do to fix that hater, if hating is what they choose to do, is there?

If the world is going to be full of haters who are so broken they have become beyond repair and have lost all sight of a self-fixing mechanism out there in others, or in ourselves, then there is no hope, people will just have to accept they are living in a world full of hate where it is not humanly possible to fix ourselves...We must adopt a stable coping strategy where we either accept it, just as it is without fighting or resisting it, or we resort to begetting the hate by hating back, that will only serve to perpetuate,and breed more hatred, resentment and hostility ...right? Maybe we have always been living in a world of desperate zombie like people who have become so desensitized by life as a human being and it's connected psychological affect on us, that we have no more choices but to respond to it as being absolutely emotionally irrelevant, because we have no ideas why we are like this, but only have stabs at what reasons there are, but cannot be bothered to engage with those reasons why.

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Lacewing wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 1:02 pm Not all men are like this. I think attitudes are evolving.
The way I see it, is that we all started out in life as a suckling baby completely helpless and dependant on the loving commitment and caring diligence of the organism that birthed us...usually a woman. And no baby that I've ever known has ever rejected it's mothers love because of a hatred for her.

And those babies who survived to see and experience their adulthood have since turned into the vast amount of uniquely different psychological personalities we see walking around the earth today. So what happened to the baby love.

Was the chemistry that made up these now adults already present but dormant in their baby brains, and that it took the actual life of experience to force it to become activated, and was it a programme already fixed and was completely beyond their control to change it. And since no one who was ever born ever asked to be born, they had absolutely no knowledge as to whether they came with their own self-made preconditioned set of instructions on how to live their life ...IDK...was the manual for their life already present in their brain prior to their actual birth. And if it was, then no one can help who they turned out to be.

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But you don't have to have laws in place to make it a whole lot easier to intimidate, bash, rape, murder...those you hate! You don't have to instruct the police and 'justice' system to be as lenient as possible on men who bash and intimidate women for the 'crime' of standing up for women's rights. You don't have to confuse and gas-light the entire human race by reporting rapists, paedophiles, murderers etc. as 'female' 'she' and 'her' when they are in fact MEN. You don't have to make it legal for ANY man to change the sex on his birth certificate to 'female'. Those are facts. Those are fixable.
There have even been ridiculous cases of men going missing or being wanted by the police with the police via the media asking the public to report sightings of a woman. It would be funny if it were not so bat-shit insane and dangerous. You can be charged with a 'hate crime' for calling a man a man, because apparently 'misgpronouning' someone is 'genociding' them and causes them to immediately commit suidice. JFC. Some people have actual problems.

FFS. How thick are you exactly? And it's pretty pathetic that you can't tell the difference between a man and a male baby or child.
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Simple, most women are 5-10 times more desired and loved than most men. A few lucky men get a fraction of the love and desire that women get, and all the other men don't even get that.

Basically nobody loves men and that's how they have to spend their entire lives. Even though from a male perspective, males have mental qualities that would make them, on average, slightly more deserving of love than women.

And women are oblivious to this unfathomable privilige of theirs. Many men see this whole arrangement of life to be so unfair that they can't stop ending up hating women.
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Atla wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:13 pm Simple, most women are 5-10 times more desired and loved than most men. A few lucky men get a fraction of the love and desire that women get, and all the other men don't even get that.

Basically nobody loves men and that's how they have to spend their entire lives. Even though from a male perspective, males have qualities that would make them, on average, slightly more deserving of love than women.

And women are oblivious to this unfathomable privilige of theirs. Many men see this whole arrangement of life to be so unfair that they end up hating women.
Whatever. Does it matter 'why'? You seem to be confusing lust with love and contradicting yourself. Men hate women because they love them? Well that's useful. Is it a 'coincidence' that so many of these so-called 'female-identifying' men are incels that no woman would touch with a barge pole? That's hardly a 'revelation' and what are women supposed to do about that anyway? Have sex with the pathetic but dangerous sods? There are plenty of prostitutes around for that job.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:23 pm
Atla wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:13 pm Simple, most women are 5-10 times more desired and loved than most men. A few lucky men get a fraction of the love and desire that women get, and all the other men don't even get that.

Basically nobody loves men and that's how they have to spend their entire lives. Even though from a male perspective, males have qualities that would make them, on average, slightly more deserving of love than women.

And women are oblivious to this unfathomable privilige of theirs. Many men see this whole arrangement of life to be so unfair that they end up hating women.
Whatever. Does it matter 'why'? You seem to be confusing lust with love and contradicting yourself. Men hate women because they love them? Well that's useful. Is it a 'coincidence' that so many of these so-called 'female-identifying' men are incels that no woman would touch with a barge pole? That's hardly a 'revelation' and what are women supposed to do about that anyway? Have sex with the pathetic but dangerous sods? There are plenty of prostitutes around for that job.
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Atla wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:27 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:23 pm
Atla wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:13 pm Simple, most women are 5-10 times more desired and loved than most men. A few lucky men get a fraction of the love and desire that women get, and all the other men don't even get that.

Basically nobody loves men and that's how they have to spend their entire lives. Even though from a male perspective, males have qualities that would make them, on average, slightly more deserving of love than women.

And women are oblivious to this unfathomable privilige of theirs. Many men see this whole arrangement of life to be so unfair that they end up hating women.
Whatever. Does it matter 'why'? You seem to be confusing lust with love and contradicting yourself. Men hate women because they love them? Well that's useful. Is it a 'coincidence' that so many of these so-called 'female-identifying' men are incels that no woman would touch with a barge pole? That's hardly a 'revelation' and what are women supposed to do about that anyway? Have sex with the pathetic but dangerous sods? There are plenty of prostitutes around for that job.
Read again, try again
I did read it. Once was enough to know it makes no sense. I really don't give a shit why men hate women. What I do give a shit about are laws that make it a whole lot easier and socially acceptable for men to indulge their woman-hatred and do them harm.
It's also too simplistic to say it's 'unloved' men. I don't know any women who hate men. They certainly put up with a hell of a lot from them. There are also many, many married men who you wonder how the fuck they ever got any woman to go anywhere near them, yet there they are, with a seemingly adoring wife and a tribe of children. So whining about how 'unloved' men are is going to fall on deaf ears.
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vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:33 pm
Atla wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:27 pm
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Wed Sep 13, 2023 8:23 pm

Whatever. Does it matter 'why'? You seem to be confusing lust with love and contradicting yourself. Men hate women because they love them? Well that's useful. Is it a 'coincidence' that so many of these so-called 'female-identifying' men are incels that no woman would touch with a barge pole? That's hardly a 'revelation' and what are women supposed to do about that anyway? Have sex with the pathetic but dangerous sods? There are plenty of prostitutes around for that job.
Read again, try again
I did read it. Once was enough to know it makes no sense. I really don't give a shit why men hate women. What I do give a shit about are laws that make it a whole lot easier and socially acceptable for men to indulge their woman-hatred and do them harm.
It's also too simplistic to say it's 'unloved' men. I don't know any women who hate men. They certainly put up with a hell of a lot from them. There are also many, many married men who you wonder how the fuck they ever got any woman to go anywhere near them, yet there they are, with an seemingly adoring wife and a tribe of children. So whining about how 'unloved' men are is going to fall on deaf ears.
You demonstrate the "women are oblivious about their unfathomable privilige" part. You belong to the desired/loved gender and cannot imagine how fundamentally different life is for the other gender.
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