The American Republic has Ended, What Next?

[Alexis Jacobi]

Your perception of me is continually shallow and distorted, so there's clearly no point in pretending that we're even using the same channel for having a conversation. But we keep trying from time to time.

It is not intended to be such. And it is only based on some things you continually repeat.

I think that you tend to take my critique (of what I understand of some of your propositions) too personally. I am interested in a more abstract and removed social-intellectual analysis.

No one here really ‘gets’ anyone else. In a way you can’t on a forum like this.

In any case I will comment later on other parts of what you wrote.

[Lacewing]

Your perception of me is continually shallow and distorted, so there's clearly no point in pretending that we're even using the same channel for having a conversation. But we keep trying from time to time.

It is not intended to be such. And it is only based on some things you continually repeat.

Well, no, it's not only based on that... it's also based on your perception/interpretation and possibly lack of compatible context.

I think that you tend to take my critique (of what I understand of some of your propositions) too personally. I am interested in a more abstract and removed social-intellectual analysis.

No, they're just wrong. I don't take it to heart... I just know you don't know. You say you're interested in 'abstract'... yet you criticize me for that very thing.

No one here really ‘gets’ anyone else. In a way you can’t on a forum like this.

True! We're all just characters on the screen.

P.S. I would like to add something more to my previous post. Although I have seen confirmation from the energetic flow I've been in, I do not try to turn it into a fixed position or religion. It would stop...because that would be interfering 'noise'. Also, I've experienced (as you've heard me say) that 'there's always more' than anything we see at any particular point... so the idea of long-term fixed positions don't seem as useful or efficient to me.

[Wizard22]

Ok, so your conspiracy theory is that all the judges who don't throw cases out for Trump are all part of a cosnpiracy to imprison enemies of the Democratic Party?

Even if those judges are Supreme Court appointees of Trump?

I think you're deluded to believe Trump will get a fair trial, when the very action of the Democrat Party is unprecedented, and corrupt beyond what's happened in American History.

I expect the Democrats and Liberals to be like-mind with you; you're a good representation of their (ir)rationality.

All the conspiracy theories about this election steal have been mad and untrue though. Only Walker is dumb enough to fall for lies about Italian satellites and time travellers who witnessed Hugo Chavez creating Dominon Voting Systems to win an election in a foreign country a decade after his own death.

Did you not notice that you had to change election steal stories every week depending on which psycho was leading the dance on that day?

And yet you keep skipping-over the undisputable fact, that Democrats had to shut-down the Election in progress, and spike ballots at 3-4am, that night.

Because everybody saw what happened in real time. Trump was ahead when polls closed. Democrats needed to stop the election in progress, to 'find' their pristine ballots, with only one mark for Biden on the entire sheet, at 3am, in key contested areas...all in Democrat stronghold cities.

Biden says it best himself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA8a2g6tTp0

Maybe you can pull a Sculptor here...deny Biden's own words. This is not a deep-fake video. I've seen the full video and conference. He actually said this.

[Wizard22]

Dems are not attacking Trump as part of a political witch hunt.

Oh they're not?!

C'mon...commonsense, have some common sense.

Do you really believe that???

[FlashDangerpants]

Ok, so your conspiracy theory is that all the judges who don't throw cases out for Trump are all part of a cosnpiracy to imprison enemies of the Democratic Party?

Even if those judges are Supreme Court appointees of Trump?

I think you're deluded to believe Trump will get a fair trial, when the very action of the Democrat Party is unprecedented, and corrupt beyond what's happened in American History.

I expect the Democrats and Liberals to be like-mind with you; you're a good representation of their (ir)rationality.

For this conspiracy theory to make sense, you must be asserting that even the Republican judges that refuse to dismiss cases on the say-so of Trump are actually Democrats, or are you saying they are paid by them, or what exactly? How does the mechanics of the thing work?

[Wizard22]

Hell, I wonder what people think the traditional family was like. In many Western families, children were not treated as different as adults as we do now. In fact Europeans were stunned by the way Native Americans treated children - as deserving vastly more attention and tenderness and playtime than adults. The traditional family has been shifting through history. From extended families and kin groups to nuclear families to whatever. I do have my preferences but when I hear the traditional family lauded I wonder which one? It seems for some it is working class families in the 50s. But those family dynamics would have disturbed traditional families two generations back. And certainly if there was emigration invovled.

I mean, I do happen to think two parents, one male, one female tends to be best, especially if there are other family members who take on parts of the parenting type roles and the children also get connnected to their friends parents. You know moving in the direction of the old village family, the tribal family.

But I think most people, when they think tradition they mean something specific, hallucinated, limited to a period and culture.

I am not a postmodernist in preference. I prefer some setups to others, but hell, some traditions are terrible.

In general, the Conservative-Right-Republican believes in Traditional Marriage. This harkens to ancient European memories, where the European mindset is still that of a European Medieval peasant. The wife is virgin, married to her husband under the purview and jurisdiction of a local Catholic Priest, Bishop, or Parish, and that is the basis by which Europeans know of family to this day. It wasn't until "Protestantism" (Heresy) came along, and disrupted the Catholic model. Then, later, under Protestantism, the traditional family unit was further ruptured and broken apart by Industrialization and Post-industrial societies, to today, where Postmodernity brutally attacks the traditional (European) family unit.

This is what I meant by 'Genetics' a few pages ago in this thread.

The Liberal-Left-Democrats, now including Marxists, Socialists, Anarchists, Wokies, LGBTQ+, George Soros, and all the evils of the Left, want to end the European "family unit". This is why they first replace it with "equally-valid" homosexuals, two men, or two women, who can "equally" have, raise, or maintain a family. They attack it with feminism, that women "don't need" a husband. They attack it with Wokism, Transgenderism, now Child Genital Mutilation. There's no such thing as "Man and Woman", but Xhe Xhim Xhers.

All of this started with Protestants, a long time ago, and is extended from that. Protestants thought they could 'copy' Catholic/Christian morality. They were and are, wrong, today. From Protestants, all these perversions have sprung forth, and grown into monstrosities.


But none of them can replace that distant memory in all European people, when times were simpler, when the Hearth was the warmth of the family unit, and a man's love for his wife, a woman's love for her husband, were the pride and core value of our people.

Which our enemies wish to destroy. That they are destroying, or attempt to destroy in this very thread.

I can use Lacewing as an example. She rails against "banning books", but ignores exactly the type of "books" her side wishes to peddle. Then she contradicts herself a few responses later, a hypocrite, a "feminist". ...but but but she "values family" too. No, she doesnt.

You can't speak out of both sides of your mouth...either your moral values are centered around biological family, or they're not, and frivolous, gratuitous sex, are your modus operandi.

[Wizard22]

For this conspiracy theory to make sense, you must be asserting that even the Republican judges that refuse to dismiss cases on the say-so of Trump are actually Democrats, or are you saying they are paid by them, or what exactly? How does the mechanics of the thing work?

That's simply not reality though.

Trump has never been heard by a "Trump-appointed" judge or prosecutor, in any court case thus far. You're like many of the other liberals, who pretend that "Trump-appointed judges" heard any of his Election interference cases, or these recent prosecutions. They weren't. Why don't you do homework on who exactly is prosecuting these Trump charges, right now???

[Wizard22]

"The red pill" has become a much more general thing, not merely applying to political things, but to social stuff, sexuality, and a bunch of other things. Not surprisingly, though, the trope is hated bitterly by the Left; for their entire care is to generate pseudorealities; and having them named as such and dismissed as "blue pill" thinking really grinds their gears.

The blue pill also calls out their enslavement to overlords, whether Marxist theorists, Leftist political parties, the Leftist academics and public schools, the mainstream media, or the bankers, business monopolists, globalists and arms dealers, all of which sponsor Socialist propaganda so vigorously today.

They hate that trope, indeed. But it's most apt.

A similar trope is the less-common "NPC": the "non-player character" from video game worlds being used as a placeholder for the thoroughly indoctrinated person who has so been submerged in Leftist ideology that he's lost all ability to think for himself, as well as most of his real personality, and thus shuffles about quite stupidly, like a bad NPC.

Also quite a striking metaphor for Leftism today. And apt.

Yes, the NPC meme, more recently struck them worse. I like that one, because I remember, not so long ago, when the Liberal-Left was anti-war, anti-Big Pharma, anti-"fascist", pro-democracy, etc. It's been amazing to see all their historical fights and previous values, go out the window, when they taste political power and influence. It should be a wakeup call for everybody, for future generations, and the rest of the world.

To me, it's proved that they cannot be trusted, because they have no real moral values underneath them at all...hence why the NPC meme hurts them even worse than 'red-pilling' now.

Do you mean "eugenics"? "Genetics" generally means a scientific field; "eugenics" labels the use of Evolutionary propaganda to insist that some 'races' are fit 'breeding stock' and others are not, as applied to the human race.

Yes,the root of today's race politics is eugenics. Again, they's scream like pigs stuck under a gate that they aren't going there, but that's right where they live, when they dub all "black" or "of colour" things "good," and all "Asian" and "white" things "bad." It's eugenics.

Kind of, see my recent response to Iwanna...

By genetics, I mean the biological, traditional, European family unit, that most Europeans have experienced for most of European history: simplistic, monogamous, homely, cozy, comfortable, valuable. This is the essence of our moral values, NOTHING from the liberal-left can possibly replace it. Although they work day and night, relentlessly, deviously, maliciously, to overturn it.

Little known history: eugenics was a huge and popular pseudoscientific area in America prior to the time it showed up in Germany. (That history's mostly suppressed now, but it can be dug up.) But it was the Democrats leading the charge on that, because of the race issue in America, particularly in respect to things like "the one drop rule" in the South. The Nazis, when they adopted eugenics, were fully aware of the American eugenics model -- and found it too extreme for their own purposes at the time, apparently. Even they did not adopt "the one drop rule" of the Southern Democrats.

I am indeed aware of their history of Eugenics. They had to quiet themselves publicly after Eugenics fell from favor post World War 2...but they've been tirelessly working away in private since then. Now they secure themselves firmly in the Big Pharma industry, and mass vaccinations.

I have hope and confidence in reason and rationality.

Wow. I sure wish you luck. It would be good for us all, if you turned out to be right.

Thank you!

[Wizard22]

Oh no, that's so sad. That means your little KKK buddy is a Democrat and you have to hate him for writing dirty Democrat stuff like this...

Miscegenation coincides directly with Liberalism/Zionism/Marxism (your worldview).

Of course you can check what he wrote about Zionism if you like, apparently it's ok because he now says he was "half joking" when he flaunted the blood libel repeatedly and blames Jews for making America temporarily wealthy with their dirty jew funy money.

But I'm not a Democrat...Accuser.

So how do you explain your constant mistakes and argumentative failures??

[FlashDangerpants]

Oh no, that's so sad. That means your little KKK buddy is a Democrat and you have to hate him for writing dirty Democrat stuff like this...

Miscegenation coincides directly with Liberalism/Zionism/Marxism (your worldview).

Of course you can check what he wrote about Zionism if you like, apparently it's ok because he now says he was "half joking" when he flaunted the blood libel repeatedly and blames Jews for making America temporarily wealthy with their dirty jew funy money.

But I'm not a Democrat...Accuser.

So how do you explain your constant mistakes and argumentative failures??

Are you autistic? It was quite obvious that I was using the absurd notion of calling you a Dem to take the piss out of IC.

[FlashDangerpants]

For this conspiracy theory to make sense, you must be asserting that even the Republican judges that refuse to dismiss cases on the say-so of Trump are actually Democrats, or are you saying they are paid by them, or what exactly? How does the mechanics of the thing work?

That's simply not reality though.

Trump has never been heard by a "Trump-appointed" judge or prosecutor, in any court case thus far. You're like many of the other liberals, who pretend that "Trump-appointed judges" heard any of his Election interference cases, or these recent prosecutions. They weren't. Why don't you do homework on who exactly is prosecuting these Trump charges, right now???

He appointed Aileen Cannon
He also appointed multiple Supreme Court judges, but he didn't win any of his election cases in front of that court. In fact as I recall they didn't even accept any to be heard because they all lacked merit.

[Wizard22]

Are you autistic? It was quite obvious that I was using the absurd notion of calling you a Dem to take the piss out of IC.

Are you an Accuser, Accuser?

I tire of your dishonest ways and endless lies. That's how you "argue", trying to turn other minds who appeal to your endless Ad Hom.

Because you don't have the rationality, intellect, wit, to argue anything philosophically.

[Wizard22]

He appointed Aileen Cannon
He also appointed multiple Supreme Court judges, but he didn't win any of his election cases in front of that court. In fact as I recall they didn't even accept any to be heard because they all lacked merit.

So which is it, didn't win, or wasn't heard?

I see why you're confused. You can't tell apart reality from propaganda.

[FlashDangerpants]

He appointed Aileen Cannon
He also appointed multiple Supreme Court judges, but he didn't win any of his election cases in front of that court. In fact as I recall they didn't even accept any to be heard because they all lacked merit.

So which is it, didn't win, or wasn't heard?

I see why you're confused. You can't tell apart reality from propaganda.

To get on the Supreme Court docket, the justices must decide it is worth granting a hearing on the legal merits. Trump's 2020 cases all failed even that test.
https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-do ... 44b979bcec
There were a couple of minor cases where Gorsuch and Kavanaugh were of the minority opinion that the court should at least discuss some of the issues raised, but those were immaterial to the outcome of the election itself.

Are you saying that Gorsuch, Coney Barrett and Kavanaugh are all part of the conspiracy against Trump? They didn't even think his election 2020 cases were worth the bother of hearing.

[Wizard22]

Ok, so it wasn't "didn't win" but was instead wasn't heard...

Anymore dishonesty to clear up tonight, before I go?