True Story of the Day
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promethean75
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I think i may understand what the deal is with serial killers of the sexual variety and what about the act of killing is so wonderful to them. The reasons of course are psycho-analytical and normally I'd only talk to Lacan, Freud or Jung about this.
Becuz we are so imbued with a metaphysical sense of mystery surrounding physical death, the act of resolving this mystery by taking a life must satisfy that certain anachronistic curiosity. Homegirl is laying there alive. You start to strangle her and watch her face and eyes as she stops breathing. U are right there in the moment when someone is dying. This is happening inches from your fuckin face bro. Now whatever is happening in this guy's brain has got him so mystically fascinated with this process of dying that he just goes full retard. He wants to see what happens, must see what happens. Or that's how it starts but then it morphs into a functioning sadism once the sex and violence become entangled and the intensity of killing becomes part of the sexual gratification itself. It's gotta be something like that.
Also as the killer is compelled by a kind of experiment that, becuz of its intense and passionate nature during the context of sexually dominating the victim, a personal intimacy is experienced that causes the killer to feel fully responsible for his victim, fully possessive of her. He decides when she dies, etc. This too adds to the warped mystical fascination and fantasy in his head. One of em believed that his female victims became his soul mates in another world... that killing them in this world would create a union between them, etc.
If originally the killer experienced no exhilaration while killing and only did so to eliminate the witness/victim, but then eventually became enthralled by it becuz of the intensity of the experience, he's in the stage where he enjoys the dumbfoundedness he experiences every time he kills someone and the lifeless thing lays there before him in the woods. He looks around for a spirit or ghost. Listens maybe for birds chirping uncharacteristically. A crack of thunder. A gust of wind. Something, anything, that might prove there's life after death. Where did she go? He gently pokes her. Her eyes now glazed and cloudy stare lifelessly past his head as he looks down at her. Melissa he says softly. It's not a question like Melissa can u hear me. Or maybe it is. He doesn't know becuz he's in a strange place right now. An empty wine bottle and a length of rope on the ground beside him. Dancing Queen comes on the radio and he hears it through the opened passenger door. My God what has he done. He plays back the hour prior to his killing her. What she said and how she sounded, how real and alive she was as she lay there habdcuffed in the sexy beige Volkswagen beetle just an hour ago. And now. Now she's this cold, motionless body that can certainly never love him now yeah way to go Ted u really played that one well.
U see what i mean man? All this intense shit is happening at some point in the serial killer's head. The actual experience of death... being there when someone dies and being the one that kills them - all this happening in the intimate context of sex - well that's just the most fucked up thing u could do to someone save maybe torturing them more than u had already. It's something so horrible and forbidden that even one with a IQ of 80 can sense and feel and understand and can't help but be utterly traumatized by what he has done.
Further and further he slips into nihilism becuz each time he runs the experiment, the same thing happens. The killing becomes benign and he's terribly depressed becuz the people just die and lay there. They don't leave their body. Take your boy Jeffrey D, the ultimate empiricist. He's doing autopsies and shit becuz he's looking for the soul, see. But all he finds is meat and organs. Every time a serial killer observes his dead victim he is immediately reminded of his own mortality, too. Jesus this has gotta be some depressing shit to go through. No wonder they go crazy.
Becuz we are so imbued with a metaphysical sense of mystery surrounding physical death, the act of resolving this mystery by taking a life must satisfy that certain anachronistic curiosity. Homegirl is laying there alive. You start to strangle her and watch her face and eyes as she stops breathing. U are right there in the moment when someone is dying. This is happening inches from your fuckin face bro. Now whatever is happening in this guy's brain has got him so mystically fascinated with this process of dying that he just goes full retard. He wants to see what happens, must see what happens. Or that's how it starts but then it morphs into a functioning sadism once the sex and violence become entangled and the intensity of killing becomes part of the sexual gratification itself. It's gotta be something like that.
Also as the killer is compelled by a kind of experiment that, becuz of its intense and passionate nature during the context of sexually dominating the victim, a personal intimacy is experienced that causes the killer to feel fully responsible for his victim, fully possessive of her. He decides when she dies, etc. This too adds to the warped mystical fascination and fantasy in his head. One of em believed that his female victims became his soul mates in another world... that killing them in this world would create a union between them, etc.
If originally the killer experienced no exhilaration while killing and only did so to eliminate the witness/victim, but then eventually became enthralled by it becuz of the intensity of the experience, he's in the stage where he enjoys the dumbfoundedness he experiences every time he kills someone and the lifeless thing lays there before him in the woods. He looks around for a spirit or ghost. Listens maybe for birds chirping uncharacteristically. A crack of thunder. A gust of wind. Something, anything, that might prove there's life after death. Where did she go? He gently pokes her. Her eyes now glazed and cloudy stare lifelessly past his head as he looks down at her. Melissa he says softly. It's not a question like Melissa can u hear me. Or maybe it is. He doesn't know becuz he's in a strange place right now. An empty wine bottle and a length of rope on the ground beside him. Dancing Queen comes on the radio and he hears it through the opened passenger door. My God what has he done. He plays back the hour prior to his killing her. What she said and how she sounded, how real and alive she was as she lay there habdcuffed in the sexy beige Volkswagen beetle just an hour ago. And now. Now she's this cold, motionless body that can certainly never love him now yeah way to go Ted u really played that one well.
U see what i mean man? All this intense shit is happening at some point in the serial killer's head. The actual experience of death... being there when someone dies and being the one that kills them - all this happening in the intimate context of sex - well that's just the most fucked up thing u could do to someone save maybe torturing them more than u had already. It's something so horrible and forbidden that even one with a IQ of 80 can sense and feel and understand and can't help but be utterly traumatized by what he has done.
Further and further he slips into nihilism becuz each time he runs the experiment, the same thing happens. The killing becomes benign and he's terribly depressed becuz the people just die and lay there. They don't leave their body. Take your boy Jeffrey D, the ultimate empiricist. He's doing autopsies and shit becuz he's looking for the soul, see. But all he finds is meat and organs. Every time a serial killer observes his dead victim he is immediately reminded of his own mortality, too. Jesus this has gotta be some depressing shit to go through. No wonder they go crazy.
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promethean75
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Author's notes: Dancing Queen was released in 76 while Melissa Smith was deceased in 74. The author uses the song only to convey a certain sense or feeling to the reader during that particular scene.
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So now I'm listening to dancing queen (it's really a great song i won't even front) and lookin at pics of Melissa and thinkin about fuckin Ted. And really u could cry if u got into the song and imagined how wonderful Melissa's life could have been if not for fuckin Ted and u see her graduating college and laughing and falling in love and getting married and having children and all that shit. But fuckin Ted.
And then bang, I'm back to reality and reminded of my nihilistic wizdom. i know the hard truths and here's one of em. What these mutherfuckers know is that had they not killed so and so, so and so would be just another living irrelevant like the rest of us meaningless billions who are dying somewhere every second of the day anyway. That's the hard truth and i am shocked again when i remind myself of it. Those sonsabitches know it doesn't matter and they ain't got the good graces to say 'yeah killin is natural and nothing really matters but i think I'll not kill anyone, thank u.'
It's like they take advantage of a clause we all know exists but naturally ignore becuz we aren't fucking psychopaths.
And then bang, I'm back to reality and reminded of my nihilistic wizdom. i know the hard truths and here's one of em. What these mutherfuckers know is that had they not killed so and so, so and so would be just another living irrelevant like the rest of us meaningless billions who are dying somewhere every second of the day anyway. That's the hard truth and i am shocked again when i remind myself of it. Those sonsabitches know it doesn't matter and they ain't got the good graces to say 'yeah killin is natural and nothing really matters but i think I'll not kill anyone, thank u.'
It's like they take advantage of a clause we all know exists but naturally ignore becuz we aren't fucking psychopaths.
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promethean75
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Right when they go 'see that girl'. Right there... that whole or half step down or whatever. Goose bumps bro. The whole zeitgeist of that age, of the young beautiful 70s woman, is captured in the movement of those few notes. Like I don't even disco dance but if I did. How could u not fall in love with the world spinning there underneath the disco ball when u hear this song?
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The problem isn't lacking remorse becuz even the dumb ones, on some crude caveman level, experience the learned sense of wrongness of what they have done. Even the texas chainsaw kids feel like something isn't right if only becuz they don't go grocery shopping or to town much at all.
The problem we face is determining a difference between arrested psychological development and any physiological, functional abnormalities in the nervous and endocrine systems of the SKs that inhibit their literal physical ability to experience the effects of certain brain states that in normal people prohibit them from engaging in such behavior or responding to the distress of others. Lack of empathy is a common characteristic. It's not incidental that the ability to experience empathy is brain generated and that if the gear isn't there, the empathetic behavior won't be produced.
This is why we gotta either set the IQ bar so low that a dude's gotta be almost feral to get away with it, or we gotta find a functional abnormality... becuz as i say, the remorse is there in all cases including the dumbest who's development was arrested the most.
That, or there's another alternative that's hardly credible to any serious scientist like u or myself. Demon possession. Only such a force could temporarily suspend the faculties of the naturally learned moral sense/instinct in the conscience and compel the SK to kill, ignoring his sense of right and wrongness.
Or, he's just laid back hardcore intellectual like lector and like 'moral premises can't entail objective moral conclusions, madam. Why, does this bother u? Stay for dinner. I'll be having a roasted duck. A female, i believe. Though not as large as the males, the breast of the females are often much sweeter. Would u like to hear a concerto for two violins in C minor?'
The problem we face is determining a difference between arrested psychological development and any physiological, functional abnormalities in the nervous and endocrine systems of the SKs that inhibit their literal physical ability to experience the effects of certain brain states that in normal people prohibit them from engaging in such behavior or responding to the distress of others. Lack of empathy is a common characteristic. It's not incidental that the ability to experience empathy is brain generated and that if the gear isn't there, the empathetic behavior won't be produced.
This is why we gotta either set the IQ bar so low that a dude's gotta be almost feral to get away with it, or we gotta find a functional abnormality... becuz as i say, the remorse is there in all cases including the dumbest who's development was arrested the most.
That, or there's another alternative that's hardly credible to any serious scientist like u or myself. Demon possession. Only such a force could temporarily suspend the faculties of the naturally learned moral sense/instinct in the conscience and compel the SK to kill, ignoring his sense of right and wrongness.
Or, he's just laid back hardcore intellectual like lector and like 'moral premises can't entail objective moral conclusions, madam. Why, does this bother u? Stay for dinner. I'll be having a roasted duck. A female, i believe. Though not as large as the males, the breast of the females are often much sweeter. Would u like to hear a concerto for two violins in C minor?'
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So you are a serial killer or at least a wannabe serial killer. Any Americans on here want to contact the FBI? Or does that even exist now?
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There's a more effective way to deal with predators.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 11:23 pm So you are a serial killer or at least a wannabe serial killer. Any Americans on here want to contact the FBI? Or does that even exist now?
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Better than gathering evidence and making sure you have the right person?henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 12:34 amThere's a more effective way to deal with predators.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 11:23 pm So you are a serial killer or at least a wannabe serial killer. Any Americans on here want to contact the FBI? Or does that even exist now?
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My comment presupposes a predator has been identified as a predator.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 12:41 amBetter than gathering evidence and making sure you have the right person?henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 12:34 amThere's a more effective way to deal with predators.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2023 11:23 pm So you are a serial killer or at least a wannabe serial killer. Any Americans on here want to contact the FBI? Or does that even exist now?
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Who's goingt to do that? Your friendly local vigilante group?henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 12:53 amMy comment presupposes a predator has been identified as a predator.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 12:41 amBetter than gathering evidence and making sure you have the right person?
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Hunting is best done alone.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 12:57 amWho's goingt to do that? Your friendly local vigilante group?henry quirk wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 12:53 amMy comment presupposes a predator has been identified as a predator.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2023 12:41 am
Better than gathering evidence and making sure you have the right person?![]()
'nuff said.
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I see you are into deep thinking today
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"So you are a serial killer or at least a wannabe serial killer."
Definitely a wannabe becuz I'm too much of a softy to ever do it. That's something I'll just have to live with. But I am irresistibly drawn to the forbidden, strange and unusual veg becuz i myself am strange and unusual
Plus I just don't have the time becuz I'm tryna focus on makin money right nizzow. I'm like a serial carpenter tho. I'll do two or three jobs and then I'll have a cooling off period of when i don't work. What i want to be is a mass carpenter. Do one yuge job, make a shit ton of money and then not work for months.
Definitely a wannabe becuz I'm too much of a softy to ever do it. That's something I'll just have to live with. But I am irresistibly drawn to the forbidden, strange and unusual veg becuz i myself am strange and unusual
Plus I just don't have the time becuz I'm tryna focus on makin money right nizzow. I'm like a serial carpenter tho. I'll do two or three jobs and then I'll have a cooling off period of when i don't work. What i want to be is a mass carpenter. Do one yuge job, make a shit ton of money and then not work for months.
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See how over-aroused I get over the littlest things when wood workin? That's becuz I have carpentryfilia.
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No. You are a pervert and a sociopathic, emotionally stunted, immature creep (i.e. serial killer (wannabe or otherwise) ). At least that's your online persona. Not sure why anyone with these traits would be interested in a philosophy site...promethean75 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 6:41 pm "So you are a serial killer or at least a wannabe serial killer."
Definitely a wannabe becuz I'm too much of a softy to ever do it. That's something I'll just have to live with. But I am irresistibly drawn to the forbidden, strange and unusual veg becuz i myself am strange and unusual
Plus I just don't have the time becuz I'm tryna focus on makin money right nizzow. I'm like a serial carpenter tho. I'll do two or three jobs and then I'll have a cooling off period of when i don't work. What i want to be is a mass carpenter. Do one yuge job, make a shit ton of money and then not work for months.