Biden Crime Family

How should society be organised, if at all?

Moderators: AMod, iMod

User avatar
Immanuel Can
Posts: 27604
Joined: Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:42 pm

Re: Biden Crime Family

Post by Immanuel Can »

Lacewing wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 4:23 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 5:28 am You know what I'm saying is quite true. Biden's corrupt, senile, feeble and incompetent.
Some of this is true... to varying degrees. I think you're exaggerating. So, no, I don't think that what you're saying is 'quite true'.
Open your eyes. Everybody sees it. If you say you don't, do you want us to believe you're blind or...simply not being truthful?
Immanuel Can wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 5:28 amAmerica is in no way better for his "administration,"
Every administration aims to 'make America better',
No, some don't. Some simply seek to manipulate voters and increase their personal power and affluence. It must be quite obvious to you there are political tyrannies in the world, even if you don't want to believe there's any in America. So that's just a naive claim.

But if you think this one did make America better, show how they did. Is gas cheaper, or groceries, or goods of any kind? Is the health of the country better? Are the borders more secure? Are their fewer homeless and less crime? Is the emergency response system better? Is the voting system more trustworthy? Is there freedom from stupid international wars? Is there confidence in the presidency?

What "betterment" do you see?
Immanuel Can wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 5:28 amfar worse than it's been in recent years.
A lot of things have been getting worse. There are many contributing factors.
The Democrats are clearly one of those factors, and not a small one. Look what they've done to the economy, to race relations, to public mental health, to world peace, to the housing crisis...and on, and on, and on...

Everybody sees it. There are only those who will admit it, and those who will not. There are none that don't know.
Walker
Posts: 16383
Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2015 12:00 am

Re: Biden Crime Family

Post by Walker »

The Biden Family Business is selling political influence to corrupt governments for personal gain. In other words, bribery and treason, more than cause enough for impeachment, with proof enough, an impeachment that the weak Republicans will not do.

Because of changes in voting procedures, Biden could be a mummy and still get 100 million votes to win the next election, another record that will be proof of his popularity. Why not 120 million? To officially challenge the absurd number will be illegal, thanks to precedence being set by the Trump persecution. Nevermind that The Party challenged every election in the past that was close.

Even if Brandon is not the candidate, The Party winner in the one party country will have record votes. And why would he not be? Everything is working fine and dandy now. All the institutions have been corrupted and the human invasion has primed Texas to flip Democrat, sealing the evil intent of The Party.

Presidential elections are now for show in the USA, like in any other totalitarian country, and because the voting rules that make that possible legally make voting a pretense, nothing illegal is a foot (afoot).
User avatar
Lacewing
Posts: 6722
Joined: Wed Jul 29, 2015 2:25 am

Re: Biden Crime Family

Post by Lacewing »

Immanuel Can wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 7:50 pm Open your eyes. Everybody sees it.
Open your mind. Everybody doesn't frame things the way you do.
User avatar
Immanuel Can
Posts: 27604
Joined: Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:42 pm

Re: Biden Crime Family

Post by Immanuel Can »

Lacewing wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 8:05 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 7:50 pm Open your eyes. Everybody sees it.
Open your mind. Everybody doesn't frame things the way you do.
The conversation so far...

IC: "Look at Biden. See."

Lace: "You, you, you...Trump...Trump...Trump...

:lol:
mickthinks
Posts: 1816
Joined: Thu Oct 18, 2007 1:10 am
Location: Augsburg

Re: Biden Crime Family

Post by mickthinks »

Walker wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 7:53 pmThe Biden Family Business is selling political influence to corrupt governments for personal gain.
You, and Manny and Wizzo and all the other MAGA dupes, are just covering for Trump by repeating the charges against him with his name crossed out and "Biden" written in.
User avatar
Lacewing
Posts: 6722
Joined: Wed Jul 29, 2015 2:25 am

Re: Biden Crime Family

Post by Lacewing »

Immanuel Can wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 8:41 pm The conversation so far...

IC: "Look at Biden. See."

Lace: "You, you, you...Trump...Trump...Trump...
Another misrepresentation. How do the obvious distortions, lies, and exaggerations you shamelessly RELY ON for your extremist points fit in with your supposed Christian values?
Gary Childress
Posts: 11746
Joined: Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:08 pm
Location: It's my fault

Re: Biden Crime Family

Post by Gary Childress »

Like George Bush Jr., Trump is backed by evangelical Kristians. Submitting to Christ is the only requisite. It doesn't matter how many countries you invade or how many people die as a result. The Kristians will defend you to the end. Biden on the other hand...
User avatar
Immanuel Can
Posts: 27604
Joined: Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:42 pm

Re: Biden Crime Family

Post by Immanuel Can »

Lacewing wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 1:00 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 8:41 pm The conversation so far...

IC: "Look at Biden. See."

Lace: "You, you, you...Trump...Trump...Trump...
...you shamelessly... with your...
Point proved. 8)

You don't want us to look at Biden. You're desperate to get us to look in some other direction. So it's always about "you" or "Trump."
User avatar
Lacewing
Posts: 6722
Joined: Wed Jul 29, 2015 2:25 am

Re: Biden Crime Family

Post by Lacewing »

Immanuel Can wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 5:48 am You don't want us to look at Biden. You're desperate to get us to look in some other direction. So it's always about "you" or "Trump."
Still ridiculously false.

Which proves my point. 8)
User avatar
Alexis Jacobi
Posts: 8301
Joined: Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:00 am

Re: Biden Crime Family

Post by Alexis Jacobi »

mickthinks wrote: Sun Sep 03, 2023 8:49 pmYou, and Manny and Wizzo and all the other MAGA dupes, are just covering for Trump by repeating the charges against him with his name crossed out and "Biden" written in.
To start from the assertion and the realization “I am a dupe” and “we are all being duped” is, if handled intelligently, a sensible base-platform from which to operate.

Let’s say that it is in the nature of 4th and 5th generation warfare that, though one sees all sorts of things going on, precise interpretation is rendered impossible. What one sees is, say, a front or a blind. “Our World” (mostly I mean the “world” of the US and all its mediated systems) now seems a Construct. A most startling and difficult to interpret theatre. You imagine you are making an independent and rational interpretation, but that is the Trick. You’ve been led along by the nose.

But then there must be both a genuine Interpretation and a genuine Interpreter, no? Or is “the World” now uninterpretable because too layered in false-images?

Then it happens that when one takes a side, one falls into an interpretive structure, which leads one ultimately to support some faction which had played the Perception Molding Game most successfully.

One example of a major ultra-confusion event whose interpretation was made impossible is 9/11. What happened? It is impossible to say! Or, it is only possible to “say” when one reduces the Event(s) to a convenient, simplified narrative.

Thus “perception” and “interpretation” were fractured. The World became unintelligible perhaps at that point. Or especially so. Or more intensely so.

“Tell me what is really going on” can only be answered through deviation from any description of events, and through a turn back into what Interpretation involves. We do not see reality we see mediated presentations. But interpretation, of course, within 5th Generation Warfare.

That is of course interpretive. It it “soundly realistic” or simply another interpretive strategy so as to have an interpretive scheme which offers security or confort?
User avatar
Immanuel Can
Posts: 27604
Joined: Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:42 pm

Re: Biden Crime Family

Post by Immanuel Can »

Lacewing wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:47 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 5:48 am You don't want us to look at Biden. You're desperate to get us to look in some other direction. So it's always about "you" or "Trump."
Still ridiculously false.
Then say something in defense of Biden and his record. Look at Biden, instead of trying to look away to me or Trump, both of whom are irrelevant to the point anyway.
User avatar
Alexis Jacobi
Posts: 8301
Joined: Tue Oct 26, 2021 3:00 am

Re: Biden Crime Family

Post by Alexis Jacobi »

The concept of Fifth Generation Warfare itself is controversial, with Lind arguing against it saying that 4GW “had yet to fully materialize”. We argue that what is happening in modern conflict today is
so radically different from the 4th generation framework that it’s time to enter the fifth generation. (We were so convinced that we had to write the Wikipedia article on it ourselves, despite it now being heavily redacted. Many of the key elements we have added here.)

Our favourite definition of Fifth Generation Warfare is featured in Abbot’s “Handbook of 5GW”, 2010, stating that “The very nature of Fifth Generation Warfare is that it is difficult to define.” Besides the fact that defining a subject based on it being difficult to define is counterintuitive, Abbot adds that 5GW is a war of “information and perception”.

Fifth-generation warfare technologies have advanced to the point that when applied correctly, their very use has been concealed. As we will describe further below in the Attribution Problem, in many cases simply understanding who is behind a 5GW attack is impossible.

This means that a Fifth Generation Warfare conflict can be fought and won without a single bullet being fired, or even most of the population knowing that a war is taking place. The following technologies and techniques are often associated with 5GW. What’s important to note is that these technologies may be used to heavily influence, or completely remove the need for kinetic combat:

—Misinformation (Data Driven)
—Deepfakes
—Cyberattacks
—Honeypots
—Social engineering
—Social media manipulation (Data Driven)
—Decentralized and highly non attributable psychological warfare (memes, fake news)
—Mass surveillance
—Open-source intelligence
—Commercially available Social media analytics
—Open source and grey market Data Sets
—Commercially available Satellite / SA imagery
—Commercially available Electromagnetic intelligence
—Cryptographic backdoors
—Electronic warfare, with the rapid reduction in cost and availability thereof
—Open source encryption/ DeFi / Community technology
—Low cost Radios / SDRs
—Quantum computers? (unclear if being used yet at scale)

(greydynamics.com)
User avatar
Lacewing
Posts: 6722
Joined: Wed Jul 29, 2015 2:25 am

Re: Biden Crime Family

Post by Lacewing »

Immanuel Can wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:42 pm
Lacewing wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:47 am
Immanuel Can wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 5:48 am You don't want us to look at Biden. You're desperate to get us to look in some other direction. So it's always about "you" or "Trump."
Still ridiculously false.
Then say something in defense of Biden and his record. Look at Biden, instead of trying to look away to me or Trump, both of whom are irrelevant to the point anyway.
Like most presidents, Biden is striving to do good things according to his perspectives that represent various people while also being embroiled in a delusional and corrupted environment... just as Trump was. I don't have to frame or say things in your limited/skewed way or to suit you, I.C... so, get the fuck over yourself and fuck off.
User avatar
Lacewing
Posts: 6722
Joined: Wed Jul 29, 2015 2:25 am

Re: Biden Crime Family

Post by Lacewing »

Alexis Jacobi wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:37 pm Then it happens that when one takes a side, one falls into an interpretive structure, which leads one ultimately to support some faction which had played the Perception Molding Game most successfully.
Nice.

Much more honest and aware than the dumbass game that I.C. wants to play.
User avatar
Immanuel Can
Posts: 27604
Joined: Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:42 pm

Re: Biden Crime Family

Post by Immanuel Can »

Lacewing wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 5:26 pm
Immanuel Can wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:42 pm
Lacewing wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 6:47 am
Still ridiculously false.
Then say something in defense of Biden and his record. Look at Biden, instead of trying to look away to me or Trump, both of whom are irrelevant to the point anyway.
Like most presidents, Biden is striving to do good things
:lol: I see...please list all the "good things" Biden has done for America. And don't forget the economy, the oil supply, the war, the debacle in Afghanistan, influence peddling, the border crisis...
...just as Trump was...you, I.C...
Not relevant! :lol:
Again you try to deflect. Stay on topic, if you can. And if Biden's own record can't commend him, then you lose.
Post Reply